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Jordan Peterson, outraged over diversity efforts, quits tenured professorship

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3 hours ago, tsuki said:

https://youtu.be/eBw_R6TJt90

This is a video discussing Peterson's views with a response from JP.

It's a post-modernist video myopically trying to undermine whatever JP is about.


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Man, what a waste. JP clearly has a strong intuitive grasp of human psychology and motivations and yet he wastes his understanding on defending some decaying 20th century white liberalism. 
 

He could unlock so many secrets of the universe if he could look beyond his biases but alas he entangles himself in samsara due to his petty ego clashes. Sad.


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10 hours ago, Gesundheit2 said:

It's a post-modernist video myopically trying to undermine whatever JP is about.

Are you summarizing JP's comment for me? ?

There's also a response video to his comment:

https://youtu.be/Lp7aSJ-q4h4


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2 hours ago, tsuki said:

Are you summarizing JP's comment for me? ?

???

No, and I said "myopically" precisely because of this distinction. I'm not a fan of JP.

2 hours ago, tsuki said:

There's also a response video to his comment:

https://youtu.be/Lp7aSJ-q4h4

Yet, another myopic perspective. Preaching letting go of identity, while actually holding on to this identity of disarming every other identity.


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@Gesundheit2 Your comments are low quality. You haven't said anything valuable about these videos.


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@tsuki I know you're looking for water, but unfortunately this is a desert.


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@Gesundheit2 That was insightful. Thank you.


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@tsuki To be clear, I read that line years ago when my favorite porn site got shut down for piracy reasons :P


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On 1/19/2022 at 11:30 PM, Leo Gura said:

It's not that they haven't. It's just that no serious academic or intellectual would be interested in a public pissing match with JP. Serious intellectuals don't care about mainstream appeals to social media audiences, and they don't have a political ideology to peddle.

To a serious academic someone like JP looks like an attention-whoring clown.

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Would rationally dismantling Jordan Peterson's more problematic ideas not be a massive way to introduce higher consciousness topics to the general masses? As being one of the only current celebrity intellectuals, contending with him would be one of the best ways to gain traction in the public field, I feel like that would just be good marketing.

@Preety_India Do you believe there ever has been a true intellectual then? :P I doubt that there have been many that have been able to rise to be able to see their blindspots. 

On your doctor's point, does a good doctor need to have the most knowledge or be the most efficient? I believe many efficient doctors have forgotten what they learned at school and their knowledge of biochemistry is probably questionable but they've learned to do their job and effectively treat the patients in front of them. 


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@LordFall I believe Richard Dawkins is a true intellectual. 

 


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14 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@LordFall I believe Richard Dawkins is a true intellectual. 

 

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Just now, Opo said:

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You seem to take offense at everything I like or dislike. 


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30 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

You seem to take offense at everything I like or dislike. 

Nop. 

It's not personal. 

Can't you see the irony of criticizing JP for his blindspots and than praising a dogmatic atheist?

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17 minutes ago, Opo said:

Nop. 

It's not personal. 

Can't you see the irony of criticizing JP for his blindspots and than praising a dogmatic atheist?

He is a bit dogmatic when it comes to his atheist claims, I wholeheartedly agree but he has a golden heart, I can see through people, he is not phony, he sticks with the truth, he is clear with his view, doesn't change it to please the public or PC culture, he wants to see reason, especially scientific reason behind things, that's his principle, although it can be considered as dogma, at least he is true to himself and sees things for what they are, never appeasing anyone, of course those are his blindspots, yet he doesn't do things for money, he hasn't shamelessly paraded himself like Jordan Peterson on YouTube for making money, he hasn't triggered liberals just for the sake of making money off right wing donations, he has a true heart and a man of dignity not someone like JP who sells himself cheap and keeps rambling in circles to get people to circle jerk around his victimhood like JP, who accuses the left of being snowflake and then cries like a little kid on YouTube videos to play sympathy card and uses complex jargon to say the most insensitive chauvinistic, unempathetic views like his pathetic views on Covid in delicate language, who wears sheep's clothing but acts like a wolf, nah, Richard Dawkins doesn't play dirty politics like him, Dawkins isn't milking YouTube, Dawkins has dignity and doesn't stoop low to appeal people. That's the difference. We value in others what we value in ourselves. I respect his dignity, no matter how dogmatic. Also I see through people's hearts, I'm a psychic. 

 

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@Opo I also admire Christopher Hitchens another truth seeker and true intellectual. 

It makes me sad that he is no more. Him and Richard Dawkins are my two favorite intellectuals. 

 


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3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

He is a bit dogmatic when it comes to his atheist claims, I wholeheartedly agree but he has a golden heart, I can see through people, he is not phony, he sticks with the truth, he is clear with his view, doesn't change it to please the public or PC culture, he wants to see reason, especially scientific reason behind things, that's his principle, although it can be considered as dogma, at least he is true to himself and sees things for what they are, never appeasing anyone, of course those are his blindspots, yet he doesn't do things for money, he hasn't shamelessly paraded himself like Jordan Peterson on YouTube for making money, he hasn't triggered liberals just for the sake of making money off right wing donations, he has a true heart and a man of dignity not someone like JP who sells himself cheap and keeps rambling in circles to get people to circle jerk around his victimhood like JP, who accuses the left of being snowflake and then cries like a little kid on YouTube videos to play sympathy card and uses complex jargon to say the most insensitive chauvinistic, unempathetic views like his pathetic views on Covid in delicate language, who wears sheep's clothing but acts like a wolf, nah, Richard Dawkins doesn't play dirty politics like him, Dawkins isn't milking YouTube, Dawkins has dignity and doesn't stoop low to appeal people. That's the difference. We value in others what we value in ourselves. I respect his dignity, no matter how dogmatic. Also I see through people's hearts, I'm a psychic. 

 

   Another way I'd put it, is that Richard Dawkins has integrity, and may have intellectual integrity too. He is atheistic and a rational thinker to the bone, and has a bias for scientific knowledge. Despite having a value system he believes in, a cognitive, moral, state and personality type that suits his worldview, with the life experiences he has so far, he is what is is and doesn't deviate too far.

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14 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Preety_India

   Another way I'd put it, is that Richard Dawkins has integrity, and may have intellectual integrity too. He is atheistic and a rational thinker to the bone, and has a bias for scientific knowledge. Despite having a value system he believes in, a cognitive, moral, state and personality type that suits his worldview, with the life experiences he has so far, he is what is is and doesn't deviate too far.

Exactly. You put it better than me. 

 


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25 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

yet he doesn't do things for money, he hasn't shamelessly paraded himself like Jordan Peterson on YouTube for making money, he hasn't triggered liberals just for the sake of making money off right wing donations

What would you call his making fun of religious people?

26 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Also I see through people's hearts, I'm a psychic. 

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Lol couldn't resist. 

Watch this it's about hearts. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Opo said:

What would you call his making fun of religious people?

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Lol couldn't resist. 

Watch this it's about hearts. 

 

   That that's his bias, which relatively makes him have more integrity than JP.

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