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If everyone it's You, should one ever feel embarrassed? Like people aren't embarrassed usually until there is another person(s).

But if everybody is You, than why ever feel embarrassed?

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@CuriousityIsKey 'feeling embarrassed' is also 'you'. 

"I have no other self than the totality of things of which I am aware." - Alan Watts

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Embarrassment can be an important part of healthy shame to keep you online with your values

Edited by Thought Art

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1 hour ago, CuriousityIsKey said:

If everyone it's You, should one ever feel embarrassed? Like people aren't embarrassed usually until there is another person(s).

But if everybody is You, than why ever feel embarrassed?

This is a great great point. Yes. Everything is you. Embarassment happens only when you're not aware of that. I had a period where I was pretty concious. I just looked at random people because I found myself beautiful.

Other example: Very small children are never embarassed. They're not identified with anything yet, so what to be ashamed about:)

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Even in lucid dreams I'm avoidant of people. I know they're not real but they still frighten me. I think I have a legit phobia of people, they're like nightmare monsters to me...

The characters in my dreams are also me but don't seem impeded in this way. Furthermore, they talk freely in lengthy sentences that I could not consciously do myself.

The more I consider it, the weirder the whole thing is.

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5 hours ago, Thought Art said:

Embarrassment can be an important part of healthy shame to keep you online with your values

Exactly. 
 

This is actually called wise moral shame in Buddhism. Wise moral dread is the outward component of this where one considers how an immoral action would be viewed by someone you respect like a highly developed spiritual teacher for example. 
 

A lot of new age spirituality is so focused on self-love that it often ends up encouraging people to be loose with morality, whether this is intentional by those teaching self-love or not. I fell into this trap before. Having no shame at all is actually rather destructive in many instances for both the individual in question and those around them, from my experience with this at least. This is not a reason to turn wise moral shame and dread into neurotic self-hatred though as that is obviously too far. It is a balancing act in a sense which for most people likely takes quite a bit of practice to do well. 


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There's a difference between refusing to feel shame, and therefore avoiding shame with thoughts (I am a spiritual person who feels no shame, etc) and being present/surrendering to the direct feeling. Directly in the present moment, outside of thoughts about me or others and what this feeling means about them, shame is not what we think it is. So you "should" feel what you feel, directly. There certainly might be thoughts and beliefs trying to secure or uphold an identity that you can drop though.


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When you feel embarassement or shame, you feel the discord of thoughts about the content of shame or embarassement. In turn, thoughts of shame or embarassement are driven by the emotion of blame. You blame yourself by thinking about what other people might think about you (projection). The opposite of that would be pride, which carries a similar egoistic charge. Blame and pride fill your cup. Feeling and expressing empty your cup.

You never feel the discord of other people's thoughts. You only feel the discord of your own thoughts. Shame is a thought and a projection.

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If everyone is you and you truly on that level why would there be the notion of shame? You wouldn’t be one with everything if you still hold on to shame, shame isn’t you. 


Truth you don't find. Truth finds you. Sooner or later. What you then do, no one knows. If you knew, it would already have found you."

~waveintheocean

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shame is fear of rejection, nothing more. Would you mind if all your peers reject you completely? If so, you are susceptible to embarrassment, like almost everyone. 

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