Consciousness is always experienced one at a time

[amanen]

The title really says it all, but I will try to elaborate on this.

All of existence, consciousness itself, can only experience things from one perspective at a time.

What does this mean? It means that the whole universe, God, whatever you want to call it, all of it, the whole thing, is focused on viewing itself from your perspective at the moment. This means that you are literally it, not anybody else. Nobody else is currently conscious.

If somebody else was conscious at the same time as you are, that would mean there was another consciousness. But I am saying since you are reading this right now, consciousness is currently working from that perspective, and that perspective only. There are no two simultaneous perspectives, because the universe pours all of its attention, on you.

This does not imply solipsism, that your perspective is THE only one, forever. It means that consciousness plays all of the perspectives, one at a time, but currently, it is ALL focused on you. As this perspective, I am the only consciousness right now, but as I am reading this as 'you', I know I really wrote this too. This just means consciousness is the same everywhere. 

Consciousness is outside of time, and time is just a construct you are making right now, so you don't have to think that consciousness takes these perspectives in a linear fashion. It doesn't occur inside time at all. But all of reality has been created solely for the perspective I am currently reading this from. This is not egotistical, this is a fact. Again, this does not mean that the writer is not conscious, it means that consciousness cannot play two perspectives at once, and literally, all of it is your show.

 

Any thoughts on this?

[Tyler Durden]

@amanen Interesting perspective. Am I in control of all the other people as well? Making them say and do stuff without being directly aware that it's actually me pulling the strings?

Edited November 26, 2021 by Tyler Durden

[flyingwhalee]

This is actually absolutely true. I remember the mindfuck it was when I became conscious of this. This is not a subject of debate, it is literally what is the case. 

[OBEler]

"All of existence, consciousness itself, can only experience things from one perspective at a time."

This sounds very limited, why should it Do it? Why not simultaneously? There are some lsd reports where you are simultaneously in another persons head. Also what about oneness where you are experiencing every being at the same time? 

[seeking_brilliance]

Even if it's true, think of (y)our simultaneous nature?. 

Edited November 28, 2021 by seeking_brilliance

[Nahm]

On 11/26/2021 at 11:30 AM, amanen said:

Any thoughts on this?

If thought attachment, liberation, cessation, discord, conscience, feedback on conflicting logical fallacies, hypocrisy, the veils of ego, spiritual ego, materialism and what could be coined as conceptual-spiritual-ego-materialism are ignored, then yes, you’ve got it. 

[OBEler]

@Nahm what Do you mean by this? Do you agree what he said? 

I am a little confused

[BipolarGrowth]

An old writing I had on this. It’d be a bit different now after a lot more insight but a lot of the fundamentals are similar. 
 

Solving the mind-body problem by understanding dreams

 

When you go to sleep at night, you often find yourself in dreams. In these dreams, most people will still have a human body. In waking reality, there is an unsubstantiated claim or story given by people that consciousness is somehow generated by the brain. The experts aren’t so sure, or at least they don’t have any solid evidence. Look up the “hard problem of consciousness” to understand how this is unsubstantiated. In the dream, you typically do not think along the same lines. If you were to lucid dream, you would certainly not think you were the dream body or somehow generated by the brain in your dream head. I say you, but I need to clarify exactly who you are. 

 

You are consciousness. Consciousness is the only constant you can find in all realities. In the dream, you are literally everything perceived in the dream. It’s all generated by your consciousness. We understand fully that everything created in our dreams comes entirely from us and is an extension of us. Surprisingly enough, there’s no solid argument against this being exactly the same case in waking reality. Your brain, body, and mind are all generated by consciousness in the same fashion consciousness generates the entire reality in dreams. Beyond your mind, body, and brain, you as consciousness generate this entire reality. This entire reality IS consciousness and nothing else. It’s the same way in a dream; nothing is separate from you as consciousness. You as consciousness are the sole source for everything in the dream. No one thinks everyone in their dreams are conscious, separate entities once they’ve come back to the waking state. It’s the same in this reality. 

 

There’s absolutely no way you can actually be shown something outside of your consciousness. There will never ever be proof that other beings are conscious separately or outside of your consciousness. Even if you merged consciousness with another being in the waking state as a way to somehow prove the existence of another consciousness, guess what it would be? It would be fully engulfed in exactly one thing: you as consciousness or otherwise put your consciousness. You are the source of everything that exists in your consciousness, and your consciousness is the entirety of your universe and always will be. Nothing can ever exist outside of your consciousness. Existence relies completely on perception and consciousness to even be relevant. What is the difference between a fairytale land in a book, the black void people typically conceive of as nothingness or nonexistence, and a reality you imagine exists like heaven? They’re all just imagination. The only thing that’s real is what you can experience in this very moment. As soon as something exits consciousness, it exits existence. There’s no proof for something existing outside of consciousness, and there never will be because the most fundamental building block in any proof is, you guessed it, consciousness. Before using reason or logic or any other conceptual tool to prove something you use precisely one thing first: consciousness. 

 

Even if you and I are both conscious entities, we live in completely different “universes of consciousness.” Precisely, that is to say that one consciousness can never be shown another consciousness to exist without perceiving the other consciousness through the lens of the original consciousness. As soon as one consciousness comes into the other, the secondary consciousness immediately becomes an aspect of the primary consciousness. So if you were to completely merge your consciousness with mine, your consciousness would be held within my consciousness, and it would be the same for you if the process were done from your perspective. This is a clear mechanic of consciousness. We can never know if the person sitting across the lunch table from us is conscious. We can only assume one way or the other. 

 

Anything imagined to be separate from the perspective of the original consciousness will always just be one more aspect of the original consciousness. In this way, we are entirely alone as consciousness. We are not alone as human beings. There are plenty of humans walking around. You can clearly perceive that, but by the very nature of perception, consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness without it immediately becoming another aspect of itself. Consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness as some sort of separate thing. Once the “other” consciousness is viewed, it only exists as long as it is in contact with the primary consciousness - the point of perception, and it is only truly the primary consciousness the entire time. In this way, you can never truly share space with another consciousness. You cannot perceive another consciousness. 

 

Anything you perceive is just you. You are consciousness. Everything is you. Everything is consciousness. It will be this way for eternity. You as consciousness will likely visit innumerable dreamt up worlds that you’ve created. You’ll perceive yourself as some kind of avatar or character as far as we can tell. You’ll at first see all the rest of the characters in your dreamt up creation as separate from you, but in truth those dream characters are just as much you as your primary character is. They’re just characters held within consciousness. One, your primary character who you at first feel to live inside, simply exists in your consciousness more of the time than the others. Ultimately neither the other characters or your perceived primary character is you because you are the consciousness that permeates all aspects of the dream world including its laws of physics, characters, objects, and everything else. You aren’t the characters any more than you are the objects or the laws of motion that govern that reality. You are all aspects of that reality. You are all aspects of all realities. 

 

A reality can only exist within you. Something is only real to you if it is held within your consciousness. No realities exist outside of the one you are experiencing right now. This waking state planet Earth does not exist when you are in a dream. Your wife could tell you that the world still existed while you were asleep, but you have to see how this is exactly the same as if your dream wife told you the dream reality was there while you were asleep. It means nothing because you as consciousness were not there. That seems to be the pattern in what we can verify between both the waking state and dreams.

[Nahm]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

@Nahm what Do you mean by this? Do you agree what he said? 

I am a little confused

It’s not a matter of agreeing or not. The op can inspect direct experience. The entirety of what they said sounds like parroting, trying to get all the ‘right’ beliefs. All of what I mentioned in my previous comment must be ignored to hold those beliefs… even just the title. 

[aetheroar]

There is no consciousness.

There’s no one conscious.

There’s not two, it’s One.

What the experiencer is equates to nothingness.

What they experience equates to nothingness.

The ground of being is nothingness.

Out of this arises what appears as somethingness, but it’s also nothingness appearing as somethingness.

The entirety of the Universe is happening in a completely unified field.

Reality is not being projected individually, It exists infinitely and is fully aware of itself.

How does the idea of infinite nothingness know itself to be infinite nothingness? By appearing to end at infinite everythingness.

There are no two consciousnesses, only infinite apparently-finite brains inside of infinite consciousness perceiving itself as itself. 

The unified field of consciousness exists without your human form, it does NOT rely on the human brain to exist...the human brain is not creating this, it’s always a singularity appearing in finite reflections.

Two consciousness’ appear to exist, but it’s only One.

Edited November 29, 2021 by aetheroar