Isn't materialism also mystical and magic?

[Holygrail]

Why is non-duality any more mystical and irrational than materialism? After all, the existence of anything at all is clearly magical since it's just mysterious there.

 

[Preety_India]

Materialism seems like addiction to me. 

 

[Flowerfaeiry]

It is! Science can be very awe-inspiring. 

[Fearless_Bum]

@Holygrail they are EXACTLY the same thing. 

[Holygrail]

56 minutes ago, Fearless_Bum said:

@Holygrail they are EXACTLY the same thing. 

yeah, existence exists and it's not a rational thing, its just there, whether it's an infinite regress of causes or an irreducible rock bottom, and it's clearly mysteriously capable of creating intelligence, self-awareness, thoughts and emotions. materialism still shows this.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Holygrail

[Consilience]

Just now, Holygrail said:

materialism still shows this.

It actually doesn’t. There are literally some materialists who don’t believe in consciousness. Also, materialism rests on the existential assumption that there are objects, space, and time. All of these are deconstructed when deeply investigated both from a position of serious intellectual epistemology, but more importantly, as a matter of direct experience. 

Science can be magical for sure, but science is not materialism. Materialism is a belief system created out of the false narrative that our contemporary scientific literature demonstrates there is a physical world, ONLY a physical world. This, however, is no where to be found other than in the mind’s of those interpreting and observing data. 

[Inception]

It’d be weird if there was nothing, but it’d also be weird if there was something. It’d also be weird if there was something and nothing simultaneously.

There’s really no way Existence could be, without being weird. Because even if it could somehow be explained, you could always ask: “why that way, and not some other way?”.

Even saying “Existence” doesn’t make sense. Existence as opposed to what? Non-existence? Well that doesn’t exist by dentition, other than a concept within Existence.

All we can say is that Existence just is. It’s inherently mysterious. It’s doesn’t need, and can’t have a reason to exist.

And the most incomprehensible thing of all; is that we are Existence. We’re literally a miracle ❤️

[Nahm]

Materialism is a belief, Nonduality means not two. Materialism seems true if believed, Nonduality is true wether believed or not. 

[cetus]

3 hours ago, Holygrail said:

Why is non-duality any more mystical and irrational than materialism?

It isn't. Your just programed to see it that way. Change the programing.