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The Absurdity of Being a Woman

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I am a young male. This will be just my experience and observations with women. The problem i see with modern women is that they grow up with an empasis on being beautiful. From an early age, most girls are being told ''oh how beautiful you are'' over and over again. Like beauty is the most important thing ever. Like it will last forever. You have a whole new generation of women who will be spending literally years of their lifes, wearing make-up, having their nails done, buying the right clothes, perfumes and playing all these stupid ass games.

Not all women women play this game to the same extent. Some who are usually more intelligent and less attractive, don't engage into that game as much. They see the stupidity and vanity of it. Others who are super beautiful, will definitely be trying to compete with other women out there.

This is not me hating on women. I am just pointing the obvious. The situation is really really bad. And i blame our culture, business, films, instagram and etc. They have created a cult where most women are super absorbed to superficial stuff. They care about how their body looks in an obssessive unhealthy way. This creates a materialistic low consciousness society. If you spend 30% of your life worrying about how your ass and tits look then you cannot be a highly conscious human being.

Some men play the same stupid game with wearing watches and other bs like that. But the situtation is really bad with women. Its really ridiculous if you think about it. And i don't blame them. Their value is determined by their beauty in our dysfunctional society.

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Non-sense thread.

 

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I sure am glad men aren't equally as ridiculous and equally susceptible to marketing/media telling us how we ought to be. 

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3 hours ago, SQAAD said:

I am a young male. This will be just my experience and observations with women. The problem i see with modern women is that they grow up with an empasis on being beautiful. From an early age, most girls are being told ''oh how beautiful you are'' over and over again. Like beauty is the most important thing ever. Like it will last forever.

Is this actually true? Honest question. This was not my experience at all overall, particularly in my own immediate family which had the strongest influence, and generally this tends to be the case.

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You have a whole new generation of women who will be spending literally years of their lifes, wearing make-up, having their nails done, buying the right clothes, perfumes and playing all these stupid ass games.Not all women women play this game to the same extent. Some who are usually more intelligent and less attractive, don't engage into that game as much. They see the stupidity and vanity of it. Others who are super beautiful, will definitely be trying to compete with other women out there.

Is beauty/ vanity an inherently negative attribute? (I don't just mean how it manifests now in current visible culture, I mean universally speaking.) People used to believe that beauty, including physical beauty, had metaphysical value, and that all manifestations of beauty were "Beauty" with a capital B (e.g. Renaissance cultures, Ancient Greek culture, quite a few other cultures). It was... different. It came with its own set of biases, advantages, and disadvantages.

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This is not me hating on women. I am just pointing the obvious. The situation is really really bad. And i blame our culture, business, films, instagram and etc. They have created a cult where most women are super absorbed to superficial stuff. They care about how their body looks in an obssessive unhealthy way. This creates a materialistic low consciousness society. If you spend 30% of your life worrying about how your ass and tits look then you cannot be a highly conscious human being.

I get what you're saying.

But what if you're exceptionally vain and you also care about other stuff? (And who gets to put the quota/ cap on how vain you're allowed to be before everything else about  you necessarily drops off in quality?) What's wrong with caring about your ass and tits?

For me, it's like... do you enjoy your own beauty in a relaxed, non-neurotic way? Or alternatively: other people enjoying your beauty? (Should you not be allowed to? Is there something intrinsically "bad" or worthless about it, or can negative consequences not be adverted?) Do you take yourself too seriously? Do you feel bound, chained up, and defined by other people's perceptions of you? Etc. What associations does beauty have for you, and what's your experience of it directly, and how does it reconcile with the rest of your ethics/ values?

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Some men play the same stupid game with wearing watches and other bs like that. But the situtation is really bad with women. Its really ridiculous if you think about it. And i don't blame them. Their value is determined by their beauty in our dysfunctional society.

Everybody loses if they feel like their value is fundamentally defined by their "depreciating assets".

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11 hours ago, SQAAD said:

Their value is determined by their beauty in our dysfunctional society.

The problem is not the beauty, the problem is the value. Making a judgement about someone's value or making a judgement about your own value is the source of the dysfunction. We're constantly comparing ourselves to each other - media and advertising exacerbate this - and we suffer for it; mostly through our pockets or self esteem.


Consiousness is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is.

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@Tudo

13 hours ago, Tudo said:

Non-sense thread.

 

It makes a lot of sense. But probably not for you buddy.

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@LastThursday

2 hours ago, LastThursday said:

The problem is not the beauty, the problem is the value. Making a judgement about someone's value or making a judgement about your own value is the source of the dysfunction. We're constantly comparing ourselves to each other - media and advertising exacerbate this - and we suffer for it; mostly through our pockets or self esteem.

Yes , but the value comes from assessing someone's beauty in this case. More beautiful = more valuable. Beauty and value are going hand in hand. You automatically project value into things  that make you survive better.

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@Knowledge Hoarder

1 hour ago, Knowledge Hoarder said:

I don't believe it's nearly as much of a problem, as you make it out to be.

It's not a problem for all women. But it is especially a problem for younger generations who have been brainwashed to be instagram models. All these pictures they take, all this comparison ruins their self-esteem. Women nowadays feel uglier than ever. These women will suffer a lot when they get into their 40s and 50s. 

 

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@Chew211

13 hours ago, Chew211 said:

I sure am glad men aren't equally as ridiculous and equally susceptible to marketing/media telling us how we ought to be. 

Men are in a better position in general. But there are some idiots who have been brainwashed to have ''the six pack abs'' or ''5% body fat'' or wear that type of watch. Like that makes any difference. It is just a status game. I am 5% bodyfat while you are not. Look how cool and special i am.

We are trying to look more special so we can get laid with more women and survive our gene pool. That is happening on an subconscious level. Doesn't matter if you do it physically by lifting weights or by reading 200 books. We are always striving for more power. 

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@modmyth

11 hours ago, modmyth said:

Is this actually true? Honest question. This was not my experience at all overall, particularly in my own immediate family which had the strongest influence, and generally this tends to be the case.

Is beauty/ vanity an inherently negative attribute? (I don't just mean how it manifests now in current visible culture, I mean universally speaking.) People used to believe that beauty, including physical beauty, had metaphysical value, and that all manifestations of beauty were "Beauty" with a capital B (e.g. Renaissance cultures, Ancient Greek culture, quite a few other cultures). It was... different. It came with its own set of biases, advantages, and disadvantages.

 

 

If you care too much about your looks, you won't care too much about other things. That is what i've found. That is the trade-off. If you look 20 times in the mirror that is a problem. We all want to look pretty. Some people just take it a whole another level.

And you cannot be too vain and highly developed from my experience. Because you are too focused on the superficial aspects of reality. You lose the essence of a thing.

I have never found someone who is obsessed about their body and highly conscious at the same time. Eckhart Tolle is not a massive bodybuilder.

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The problem is that women and men both undervalue beauty, so it's given a false importance rather than opening to the appreciation of sheer enjoyment of beauty, no matter what it looks like or where it comes from or is.

In my opinion this is just an absurd effect of what happens when a society undervalues art and art education. There is a strong human need for creative expression and because it's related to sexuality, but very different it is often confused with sexuality. 

 

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2 hours ago, SQAAD said:

Yes , but the value comes from assessing someone's beauty in this case. More beautiful = more valuable. Beauty and value are going hand in hand. You automatically project value into things  that make you survive better.

Agreed. I realise you're talking just about beauty. It's the projection of value that's the problem though. Beauty in itself is not a problem. Why shouldn't we all look beautiful if we want to do that? I guess by value you mean either "how useful is this person to me?" or "how do I compare with others in my social hierarchy?". But there are other kinds of value - such as expressing yourself, which @mandyjw mentions.


Consiousness is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is.

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3 hours ago, SQAAD said:

@Knowledge Hoarder

It's not a problem for all women. But it is especially a problem for younger generations who have been brainwashed to be instagram models. All these pictures they take, all this comparison ruins their self-esteem. Women nowadays feel uglier than ever. These women will suffer a lot when they get into their 40s and 50s. 

 

I still think it's not even a majority of young women. And I know plenty of these insecure types. But, it would be kind of ignorant to say most of women are like that, although, every women is insecure about her looks to some degree. Same with men. Just not to the level of instagram models.

But then again, it's not like I have statistics or surveys to back me up. I'm just assuming based off my intition and observations.

Yeah, that video was definitely describing only a small niche of women, mate? Nowhere near the majority.

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you're kinda into this survival game in your own way and you're not paying attention.

it's not bad to make yourself attractive by doing things. I'm attracted to women who are feminine, doing makeup, exercising and using feminine products.

today, recommend people not to use shampoo or not wipe their ass, the planet would smell like a shit that push away any extraterrestrial being. ?


"If you kick me when I'm down, you better pray I don't get up"

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I think you fundamentally misunderstand what women are brother. Women are part of the aesthetic of this world. As we grow more evolved as a species, of course our females are gonna become more attractive. And as a straight man, you should get on your knees and thank God for that. If you think of a pretty girl getting her nails done and this annoys you/you find it stupid then you haven't gone through your spiritual masculine awakening yet.

Nothing I love more than a girl dolling herself up, it's one of the best blessing of this universe.

 

 

 

 

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On 22.9.2021 at 0:51 AM, SQAAD said:

If you spend 30% of your life worrying about how your ass and tits look then you cannot be a highly conscious human being.

People are not obligated to be "highly conscious".

This is just a part of our evolution. For the last few thousand years women spent their entire lives trying to be well-behaved, submissive, god-fearing tools of reproduction. Now our culture promotes beauty, individualism and material well-being, for men and women alike. Which is fine and a good thing.

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On 9/22/2021 at 6:14 AM, SQAAD said:

@modmyth

 

If you care too much about your looks, you won't care too much about other things. That is what i've found. That is the trade-off. If you look 20 times in the mirror that is a problem. We all want to look pretty. Some people just take it a whole another level.

And you cannot be too vain and highly developed from my experience. Because you are too focused on the superficial aspects of reality. You lose the essence of a thing.

It is not generally healthy to frame this as an either/ or situation. Again, what is the upper limit for "too much" and who decides this?

I think you can be a physical perfectionist and also have other serious priorities. For example, just universally being a perfectionist. I think this happens  a lot. Whether these thoughts and desires are expressed in a more positive way with healthier, more self-affirming underlying motives (which generally takes work), that is a separate issue. The influence of culture in forming this drive, how self-aware someone might be about it, how it fits into the greater scheme of things, and what someone makes of it overall; this is a separate issue (though you might notice some very unhealthy trends which are indeed symptomatic of our times and collective values).

I also think it's very easy to take a woman who loves attention, loves to put effort into her looks and presentation, and turn her into an absolute caricature of a human being. Too easy.

Often this gets thrown together with very extroverted, social butterfly, emotive, "woman" traits.

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I have never found someone who is obsessed about their body and highly conscious at the same time. Eckhart Tolle is not a massive bodybuilder.

Probably not a great point of comparison for multiple reasons.

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Humans are just naturally value-seeking creatures.

Sexual beauty is just one type of value. Money is another. Intelligence is another. Charisma is another. Physical strength is another.

Of course people will use their natural genetic advantages to extract and maximize value from others. Hot women do it through sex. Intelligent guys do it through business. Etc.

The bottom line is, if you were born with huge tits you would use them to maximize your survival.

The problem is that we get jealous when others have something that massively increases their survival but we don't have it. And so we can start to hate and demonize those people who have what we don't have.

Unfortunately for women, their survival hinges more on beauty than a man's. It's unfortunate because beauty is so temporary. It's easier to maintain a business for 40 years than your youthful looks.


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20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Unfortunately for women, their survival hinges more on beauty than a man's. It's unfortunate because beauty is so temporary. It's easier to maintain a business for 40 years than your youthful looks.

Is beauty a measurment of worth for women in her entire life? Do people think that the first 25-30 years of her life is the best she can get in her limited time on this earth, and it only gets worse after that "peak"? 

What should women do after their peak years? Just... Not exist? Cause beauty is all there is to them? 

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