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Why are modern people unhappy?

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Whatifalthist made a brilliant video, I agree with every point made.

 


لا إله إلا الله، وليو رسول الله

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They're unhappy because they're unwise. If we taught wisdom from early age on then we would teach people to live harmoniously. But we instead teach them how to be miserable.


"The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same." -Carlos Castaneda

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Posted (edited)

Not had time to watch the video (is this bad form on my part?) but perhaps we're more unhappy now because we've got more time on our hands to think about our lives. And more time spent watching how the other half lives on our screens. Rather than working hard all hours, spending most of our spare time mending clothes etc to make ends meet. 

Not to mention discarding the traditional religions which seem designed to make us resigned to our lot in life. 

Edited by snowyowl

Relax, it's just my loosely held opinion.  :) 

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Overabundance of information.

Unfair distribution of resources.

The decline of healthy stage blue values  such as ethics, discipline, dedication and family values

Extreme egocentric behaviour regardless of the costs to the environment, other people's health and the suffering of animals

Lack of mental challenge, decline in willpower, patience and strategic thinking about one's life -> tendency to favour quick solutions and shortcuts

The illusion of choice (why settle for one person when I could be shagging all these super hot models) 

 The illusion of other people's success (omg look at this successful guy with 4 million followers who btw suffers from crippling depression, takes drugs and his family life is a mess)

The illusion of beauty standards -> ehm.. Kardashians

Lack of dedication to a particular cause 

Inability to sit down with one's thoughts for half an hour in total silence 

 

 


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We have more time to focus on our thoughts. We spend hours thinking about ourselves.

People are stuck in their heads.

When you have to spend the whole day to carry water and grow food, you don't really have time to be depressed.

Today you just buy a pizza and then lie on a sofa thinking why you're feeling like shit.

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On 7/29/2021 at 9:25 PM, Preety_India said:

We are miserable because we don't gather together and do kumbaya.

This.


"The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same." -Carlos Castaneda

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Most people don't want to be happy. At least, happiness is not one of their top priorities. Otherwise, happiness is not really that hard.


Have faith.

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Modern people aren't the first generation to be unhappy, modern people are the first generation to wake up to the fact that we are unhappy because we aren't so wrapped up in survival for the first time!

Edited by Parththakkar12

"Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one." - Bruce Lee

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@Husseinisdoingfine I have realized some things of late. Especially about unconditional love. Modern people may live within the understanding of conditional love, such as expectation in reciprocal efforts of others. Not only for modern people I think unhappiness can stem from not being endowed with unconditional love, or reachint a state of joy. It isn't attained without an amount of suffering at first, that is why I always think to myself how bittersweet unconditional love might seem yet it's beautiful.

Also a grateful heart of thanks can change unhappiness too.

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Poor diet and short attention spans.


To balance beauty and complexity so perfectly is a divine mystery.

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On 7/30/2021 at 1:26 AM, Michael569 said:

Overabundance of information.

Exactly. Else we live in such a lavish way that only kings could've dreamt of just 200 years ago.

 

On 7/30/2021 at 1:26 AM, Michael569 said:

The decline of healthy stage blue values  such as ethics, discipline, dedication and family values

Lol no. Does your idea of a healthy stage blue come from somewhere you listened or read about it or actual life? 

Name one culture that existed in a 'healthy' stage blue. There isn't one because there isn't a healthy stage blue. It is APPEARRING healthy  because you're at stage orange/green and missing some values that blue carries. The people at Blue miss what you/we carry. 

Hence the goal is to go Tier 2, not sympathize with stage blue. If you want to eat a chicken, EAT a chicken, don't BE a chicken.

Nothing personal @Michael569 but some replies to this thread are so mis-informed.

On 7/30/2021 at 0:53 AM, snowyowl said:

Not to mention discarding the traditional religions which seem designed to make us resigned to our lot in life.

take out some history books and see how people behaved just 500 years ago. Religious dogma was(still is) one of the main causes of suffering among humans. The main motivating factors behind the Holy wars, Crusades, Renaissance, Military Coalitions was Religious identity.  The need to expand the religious tribe or sub-religious tribe. The need to behave as an elite class. There's no happiness in that.

See, Christ may be pure. Christians definitely aren't.

On 7/29/2021 at 9:49 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Whatifalthist made a brilliant video

He sometimes does, but take it with a pinch of salt. I too, initially found him compelling, like I found Stefan Molyneux lol, but overtime, I realized his work isn't that great. Dude doesn't know much about how society and spirals work. He is a bit of guesser. Need to collect more info.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Enlighten said:

Exactly. Else we live in such a lavish way that only kings could've dreamt of just 200 years ago.

you've completely twisted this argument. When did I say "information is bad". I'm saying overabundance of information is overwhelming to the mind of young who have not yet necessarily adapted the ability of critical thinking. Because it is no longer about who is right but about who can yell the loudest. 

55 minutes ago, Enlighten said:

Lol no. Does your idea of a healthy stage blue come from somewhere you listened or read about it or actual life? 

Name one culture that existed in a 'healthy' stage blue. There isn't one because there isn't a healthy stage blue. It is APPEARRING healthy  because you're at stage orange/green and missing some values that blue carries. The people at Blue miss what you/we carry. 

Hence the goal is to go Tier 2, not sympathize with stage blue. If you want to eat a chicken, EAT a chicken, don't BE a chicken.

My friend, I can see the horns, the tail and the pitchfork even from here 


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18 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

you've completely twisted this argument. When did I say "information is bad". I'm saying overabundance of information is overwhelming to the mind of young who have not yet necessarily adapted the ability of critical thinking. Because it is no longer about who is right but about who can yell the loudest. 

No, I agree with what you said. Completely. I agree with your above argument as well. 

I'm just concerned about your healthy stage blue ideals. The rest of your reasoning is actually great.

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35 minutes ago, Enlighten said:

No, I agree with what you said. Completely. I agree with your above argument as well. 

Ah ok, I sensed a strong hint of irony.  I take it back then. 


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Posted (edited)

At least here in America I suspect that much of it has to do with social exclusion due to extreme inequality.

Even though from an objective standpoint we're materially better off now than we were 50 years ago, at the same time the threshold to participate in society and live a life of dignity has outstripped the means that are actually available to achieve that goal for a large portion of society.

Largely as a result of changes in the global economy combined with the teardown of Support Structures that previous generations relied on for a stable way of life (such as affordable education and housing, or jobs that paid livable wages thanks to Unions), life for a large portion of the country means either struggling to meet one's basic Survival Needs or the Social Anxiety that comes with the fear of losing what one has due to forces beyond one's control.

Compounding all of this is a meta-ideology of hyper-individualism that self servingly victim blames people who have been harmed by forces outside of thier control, portraying larger societal failures as moral shortcomings in individualsAdd to this that this meta-ideology de-emphasizes and discourages social solidarity, and its no surprise at all that larger numbers of people are feeling lonely, vulnerable, and alienated.

Edited by DocWatts

"The mind is inherently embodied.
Thought is mostly unconscious.
Abstract concepts are largely metaphorical." - George Lakoff

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