How can nonduality possibly "be"

[Adodd]

@Mason Riggle I understand your explanation. I understand the concepts. But its so difficult to really make much out of the explanations when an explanation has to be of things like cups or other outer things that I see as seperate from me. I clearly understand the outside and inside of the cup are just two labels I came up with for the single cup. I still dont feel like the cup.

I guess I'm trying to understand nonduality from a dual perspective. Idk. 

Edited July 23, 2021 by Adodd

[Adodd]

@Moksha thank you!

[TreyMoney]

Have you seen the matrix? There is no cup. What we call a cup is a sound that represents a concept that represents a group of sense-perceptions.

Edited July 23, 2021 by TreyMoney

[TreyMoney]

All of existence is a sense perception within consciousness

[Adodd]

Just now, TreyMoney said:

All of existence is a sense perception within consciousness

Who's sense perception? "My"sense of perception? How is this not seperate from your sense perceptions?

[TreyMoney]

Your question "who's sense perception" assumes that sense-perception is a subset of who. The question assumes there has to be a who that is a perceiver.

But its actually the opposite. 

The self that is the who is itself a sense-perception.

All things, including the self / the who, are sense perceptions.

I am a perception, you are perception. All who's are perceptions.

I am not conscious. Consciousness is conscious of me.

[TreyMoney]

Leo's video Brains Do Not Exist is great for this.

[ivankiss]

It is because it isn't.

[Adodd]

17 minutes ago, TreyMoney said:

Your question "who's sense perception" assumes that sense-perception is a subset of who. The question assumes there has to be a who that is a perceiver.

But its actually the opposite. 

The self that is the who is itself a sense-perception.

All things, including the self / the who, are sense perceptions.

I am a perception, you are perception. All who's are perceptions.

I am not conscious. Consciousness is conscious of me.

Universal perception perceiving itself/ its self?

13 minutes ago, TreyMoney said:

Leo's video Brains Do Not Exist is great for this.

I haven't seen that one. I'll watch it tonight.

[Adodd]

Do all of the Hindus and buddhists who claim enlightenment seem to realize this truth.

[Inliytened1]

 

1 hour ago, Adodd said:

Do all of the Hindus and buddhists who claim enlightenment seem to realize this truth.

Find out for yourself.