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If we're all infinite god, infinite consciousness, infinite happiness, etc, then why is it possible to fuck up in this life and end up suffering?

Besides the concept of even though people suffering actually is infinite god, subjectively, for those people, they actually are suffering.

So, if the concepts are true and all, how can one actually have a worse life than others?

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you are god asleep in a dream thinking you are a mind body separate from other mind bodys

you think you are a doer of stuff but that is illusion; and because you are not a doer, when you try to change the unfolding dream, you suffer

awakening is to realize you are not this person at all

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9 hours ago, habed345 said:

If we're all infinite god, infinite consciousness, infinite happiness, etc, then why is it possible to fuck up in this life and end up suffering?

Besides the concept of even though people suffering actually is infinite god, subjectively, for those people, they actually are suffering.

So, if the concepts are true and all, how can one actually have a worse life than others?

What is suffering?

What are the mechanisms that create an apparent suffering experience?

You have to look for yourself!


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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Suffering is part of infinity.  There is infinite suffering.  Make peace with that.  

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   Infinity god, infinite consciousness, infinite intelligence,  happiness is not suffering, but thinking makes it so.

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On 6/20/2021 at 1:12 AM, habed345 said:

If we're all infinite god, infinite consciousness, infinite happiness, etc, then why is it possible to fuck up in this life and end up suffering?

Besides the concept of even though people suffering actually is infinite god, subjectively, for those people, they actually are suffering.

So, if the concepts are true and all, how can one actually have a worse life than others?

Would you write a book or create a series where all the characters are happy and satisfied all the time?

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On 20.6.2021 at 10:12 AM, habed345 said:

If we're all infinite god, infinite consciousness, infinite happiness, etc, then why is it possible to fuck up in this life and end up suffering?

You said it yourself:  cos We are Infinite.  Ta-daaaa.

If it was NOT possible to  <'fuck up, feel pain, be bad, be selfish, be evil, suffer'>  then, oh dear God, We wouldn't be Infinite & Eternal -- but We ARE!
The lesson in this life is for you/me/us to fucking understand that We do NOT want all this unconscious, ignorant, selfish, evil devilry (being asleep) anymore because IT FUCKING HURTS in the end :( <3 

I don't want to suffer anymore.
I want peace, goodness, happiness, love, contentment and joy for every sentient being that I am in the whole universe.
Consciousness. Being awake. Knowledge. Selflessness. Cosmic Consciousness. Oneness. Love.

But it takes a lot of ignorant devilry, pain, fear, anger, shame, suffering ... and conscious effort to get there, because ignorant, unconscious, selfish devilry is also kind of exciting, right (?), and it seems like the essence of 'fun' to Us.
But I'm fucking tired of it now. Seems like many children on the planet are starting to grow tired of egoistical behaviour.

But you cannot fuck around with survival. You gotta satisfy the bottom 4 levels of Maslow's Pyramid of Needs before even being able to start acknowleding that you were programmed to survive and that you have followed this social conditioning your whole life, more or less.

The most 'sneaky and intelligent way' for the 'ego' to perform devilry is to perform it without acknowleding it. We are all often acting primarily from a place of ego in so many small and big ways while simultaneously believing we are acting from a place of charity and integrity. 

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions". 
“Kindly let me help you or you will drown, said the monkey, putting the fish safely up a tree."

The thing is though, try to imagine what it would be like if all that existed was 'obvious Heaven' -- omniscient, unselfish, blissfull beings just flying around in Paradise. No pain, no suffering, no devilry. Just pure Love, Joy, Happiness, Goodness, Contentment for You and Everyone. After an eternity of this, don't you think you would start to be fucking bored? 

Maybe You would want to imagine a chaotic dream where You *forgot* You were God, and where you didn't know shit about what would happen, since the world inside that dream would be filled with chaos, evil and death.
Wouldn't that be exciting? I mean it's just a dream right; only it gets more exciting: because you willingly forgot it was just a dream!

Wouldn't it be a fantastic dream if it was possible for You -- as 'an imaginary, internal, separate self' stuck in 'a chaotic, physical, external world' -- to get all this "anxious chaos & ignorant, selfish devilry"  'straightened out' to  "calm order & conscious, selfless goodness & love" ?  ... Just like when you take a deck of cards and shuffle them into disorder and chaos, and then shall try to bring them back into order and harmony. That's fun, that's exciting... Will the (imaginary) evil win? Or will Love win? Let's see! Let's play! Lila - Divine Play. It's all just God/Love though, remember? ;-) <3 

Most people don't, which is exactly the point! Awakening/Spiritual Enlightenment is God allowing Himself to "wake up" through a small amount of dream-characthers inside His Dream.

Hehe   :-)   <3   ;-)

Love is Awareness is Boring is Ignorance is Exciting is Bliss is Fear is Suffering is Healing is Awareness is Love 
An infinite strange loop. The serpent eating its own tail.

Meet Me "in the middle" of all these seemingly polar opposites:

good - bad ... selfless - selfish ... love - hate ... excitement - boredom ... being - non-being ... peace - fear ...
happiness - misery ... expression - depression ... harmony - chaos ... infinite - finite ... eternity - transient ...
light - darkness ... consciousness - ignorance ... freedom - captivity ... invulnerability - helplessness ...
perfection - imperfection ... control - impotence ... truth - falsehood ... courage - fear ... innonence - lust ...
non-attachment - attachment ... humility - pride ... serenity - anger ... authenticity -- deceit ... play - seriousness ...
life - death ... dream - real ... emptiness - form ... nothingness - nouns ... movement - stagnation ... one - many ...

contentment - dissatisfaction ... enough - lacking ... heaven - hell ... profound - mundane ... music - silence ...
beauty - ugliness ... now - past ... now - future ... equality - difference ... unique - common .... soul - ego ...
awake - asleep ... forgiveness - judgment ... letting go - holding on ... encouragement - blame ... trust - reject ...
absolute - limited .... imagination - dullness ... mystical - understandable ... mind - matter ... mental - physical ...
thought - material ... idealism - materialism ... non-duality - duality ... spirituality - earthly ... magical - typical ...
god - devil ... fate - coincidence ... free will - determined ... actual - theoretical ... experience - conceptual ...
inner - outer ... groundless - grounded ... unlimited - limited ... unbounded - bounded ... freshness - old ...

self-evident - paradoxical ... unity - opposites ... inexplicable - explainable ... purpose - accident ... meaning - nihilism ... growth - mistakes ... whole - deficient ... interconnected - disconnected ... gifted - cursed ... blessed - mortal ...
creative - useless ... intelligent - simple-minded ... illusion - human ... transcendental - egoic finite mind ...
nirvana - samsara ... play - survival ... balance - battle ... sincerity - game ... symmetry - confusion ... natural - artifical ...
unforced - enforced ... liberated - ruled ... emancipated - dominated ... responsible - victim ... reflection - put-down ...
self-governed - enslaved ... listening - disregarding ... open - closed ... redemption - being lost ... tolerated - blocked ...

giving - losing ... ineffable - logical ... surrendering - resisting ... supportive - careless ... mutualism - antagonism ...
reciprocity - hostility ... conciliation - alienation ... synergism - noncooperation ... warm - cold ... symbiosis - conflict ...
tranquility - agitation ... neutrality - egoism ... magnanimity - vengeance ... self-sacrifice - egomania ... soft - hard ...
sacrificing - self-indulgence ... charity - exploitation ... compassion - heartlessness ... artlessness - pretentiousness ...
light - heavy ... candidness - deception ... divinity - atrociousness ... unwearied - tired ... overflowing - lifeless ...
lively - inanimate ... vibrating - motionless ... energetic - stagnant ... wavy - straight ... concurrence - asynchrony ...
linked - fragmented ... reciprocal - separate ... unified - divided ... whimsical - fixed ... alterable - established ...

healing - suffering ... transformative - destructive ... laid-back .. expressive - depressive ... bold - shy ...
calm - traumatized ... sobriety - addiction ... adventurous - scared ... audacious - fearful ... bravery - cowardice ...
acceptance - denial ... innocent - ashamed ... forbearance - anger ... acknowledgement - contemptuous ...
fertile - infertile ... admiration - condemnation ... significance - worthlessness ... gracefulness - crudeness ...
fondness - loathing ... approve - blame ... respect - scorn ... integrity - hypocrisy ... appreciation - envy ...
self-esteem - self-loathe ... humbleness - hubris ... mercy - coldheartedness ... kindliness - enmity ... let go - cling ...
affinity - aversion ... passion - abomination ... concurrency - resistance ... concordance - discordance ... 

virtue - atrocity ... clarity - murkiness ... tenderness - harsh ... keenness - nonchalance ... awareness - apathy 
engaged - inert ... wide-awake - absent ... lucid - distracted ... mindful - abstracted ... meditative - overlooking ...
focused - scattered ... contemplative - unreflective ... bright - dim ... pure - impure ... mesmerized - inattentive ...
renew - remain ... embrace - bypass ... cheerful - melancholic ... optimistic - pessimistic ... celebrate - mourn...
attend to - neglect ... deliverance - deadlock ... fulfill - fail ... fruitful - barren ... attainment - defeat ...
wonder - expect ... question - answer ... curiosity - conformity ... amity - bitterness ... unassuming - arrogant ...
observant - oblivious ... synchronicity - chance ... entanglement - loneliness ... indefinite - confined ...
exploration - conclusion ... honesty - biased ... content - greedy ... silent - noisy ... Lila (Divine Play) - one-upmanship

When the finite, egoic mind is fully dropped there is just seen to be: 

Goodness, Selflessness, Love, Excitement, Being, Peace, Happiness, Expression, Harmony, Infinity, Eternity, Light, Consciousness, Freedom, Perfection, Control, Truth, Courage, Innonence, Non-Attachment, Humility, Serenity, Authenticity, Play, Life, Dream, Emptiness, Nothingness, Movement, Oneness, Contentment, Enough, Heaven, Profound, Music, Beauty, Now, Equality, Uniqueness, Soul, Awake, Enlightened, Forgiveness, Letting Go, Faith, Encouragement, Trust, Absolute, Imagination, Mystery, Mind, Mental, Thought, Idealism, Non-Duality, Spirituality, Magic, God, Fate, Free Will, Actuality, Experience, Inner, Groundlessness, Unlimited, Unbounded, Freshness, Self-Evident, Unity, Inexplicability,

Divine Purpose, Meaningful Growth, Whole, Interconnected, Gifted, Blessed, Creativity, Intelligence, Illusion, Transcendence, Nirvana, Play, Balance, Sincerity, Symmetry, Natural, Unforced, Liberated, Emancipated, Self-Responsible, Self-Love, Listening, Open, Universal Redemption, Divine Tolerance, Ever-Giving, Ineffable, Divine Surrender, Nurturing, Universal Support, Unleashed, Mutual, Reciprocal, Conciliation, Synergy, Warmth, Symbiosis, Tranquility, Neutrality, Magnanimity, Self-Sacrifice, Softness, Charity, Compassion, Artlessness, Light, Candid, Divinity, Unweariedness, Overflow, Aliveness, Vibrations, Energy, Waves, Concurrence, Linked, Unified, Whimsical, Alterable, Healed, Transformed, Laid-Back,

Expressive, Boldness, Calmness, Sobriety, Adventure, Audacity, Bravery, Acceptance, Patience, Forbearance, Acknowledgement, Fertility, Admiration, Significance, Gracefulness, Fondness, Approval, Respect, Integrity, Appreciation, Self-Esteem, Humbleness, Mercy, Kindliness, Let-Go, Affinity, Passion, Universal Familiy, Divine Concurrency, Concordance, Virtue, Clarity, Tenderness, Keenness, Awareness, Engagement, Wide-Awake, Lucid, Mindful, Meditative, Focused, Contemplative, Bright, Pure, Mesmerizing, Renewal, Embracing, Cheerfully, Optimism, Celebration, Attending, Deliverance, Fulfilled, Fruitful, Divine Attainment, Wonder, Questioning, Curiosity, Amity, Unassuming Observant, Synchronicity, Universal Entaglement, Indefinite Exploration, Honesty, Content Silence, Lila (Divine Play).

See:

Love ya all.

Edited by WaveInTheOcean

Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

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6 hours ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

You said it yourself:  cos We are Infinite.  Ta-daaaa.
...................

Love ya all.

Just bumping this thread cos I added a lot to the above comment. Cheers:D


Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

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Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

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On 6/21/2021 at 0:34 PM, Mafortu said:

Would you write a book or create a series where all the characters are happy and satisfied all the time?

No, but I wouldn't want them to have the possibility to be tortured to death, like life can give you

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One life is just a drop in the Ocean. You have forever to experience whatever you want.


 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver

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