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Looking For New Mods Who Will Help People With Serious Emotional Issues

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Maybe we should also create a separate section for fooling around.

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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

Maybe we should also create a separate section for fooling around.

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22 hours ago, Seed said:

This puts a lot of responsibility of those mods.... and of you. Is this really possible? What if one still slips through the net. How will you / they cope with this? Knowing they or you were actively involved in their last moments. I am a therapist and have to have extensive therapy to deal which such potentialities... as well as 4 year degree of practical and theoretical training. I also have insurance. The emotional impact and implication of putting someone else in this position of care is a huge.

Edit: also without proper boundaries in place, there’s also high risk of vulnerable people become codependent on the mods.

Please be careful. 
 

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I think its more about just to give a general direction to those people in terms of nutrition, physical activity, meditation techniques, detoxes, recommended therapists, life style changes, give them unconditional love etc.

Not any sharp recommendation but only show the possibilities and give an healthier direction.

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1 hour ago, kinesin said:

@Opo  Non-judgment doesn't mean agreement, it simply means not judging them for it.  To agree with everything they said would be harmful indeed.

Do you mean stopping only the type of judgment like ''you're an idiot'' and so on, or all of it? 

Because if you stop all of it I don't think how you wouldn't end up paralyzed. 

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@Opo  I'm not talking about overt statements like "you're an idiot".  I'm not talking either about thinking "this person is an idiot".  I'm talking about the innate feeling which precedes both thought and action, the feeling that the person is 'just' an idiot, or 'just' trying to cause drama, or 'just' trying to make things hard for themselves and others, or 'just' being delusional.  These feelings can feel quite objective when we experience them, but all they succeed to do is make us feel disunity with another person, which doesn't lead to positive outcomes.  When I say non-judgment, there is a sense in which I'm talking about a different way of percieving who that person is, fundamentally.  Are they their behaviours?  If they are their behaviours, then when their behaviours are bad it becomes hard to feel positively about them.  Are they a core of childhood innocence which may still remain buried within?  This is a more useful way to interpret them, imo, but it doesn't go quite far enough.  Are they a formless awareness, experiencing phenomena in material reality?  Yes, this is what they are.  A person's formless awareness precedes their thoughts, precedes their actions, their behaviours.  When a person in a therapeutic or teaching role posesses the ability to retain unconditional, non-judgmental love for a difficult person no matter what they think, say or do, it's because they're percieving them in this way.  Look beyond the character and percieve them instead as a soul in difficulty, and it becomes not only easier to empathise with them, but the only natural reaction.

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3 hours ago, kinesin said:

@Zeroguy  Yeah, I understand what you're saying - there is a very apparent hypocrisy in 'awakened' teachers telling people to overcome the dream because it's all fake, yet at the same time begging you not to harm yourself and being unable to explain why without contradicting themselves.

 

That is false. You can fully awaken from the dream without harming the physical body.  There is nowhere to go but back into the dream, but you can fully awaken.


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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Basically just empathize, repeat back to them what they've said in my own words, suggest that their problem isn't necessarily a problem, and then suggest what I might do in their situation?

Italicized portion might be incorrect. Maybe I'm not cut out for it. Just wondering.

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@Inliytened1  Awakening isn't awakening until it's integrated back into the dream.  The dream is an illusion, awakening is another illusion, and reintegration is a unified understanding.  I agree with you completely that full awakening is possible without harming the body - infact I believe those who value Mahāsamādhi have only a partial awakening, and in my view a partial awakening is worse than no awakening at all.

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9 minutes ago, kinesin said:

@Inliytened1  Awakening isn't awakening until it's integrated back into the dream.  The dream is an illusion, awakening is another illusion, and reintegration is a unified understanding.  I agree with you completely that full awakening is possible without harming the body - infact I believe those who value Mahāsamādhi have only a partial awakening, and in my view a partial awakening is worse than no awakening at all.

Yes It's the unified understanding that it is all One.   The desire for Mahāsamādhi is still creating a duality.  But awakening in itself is not an illusion.  Rather it is realizing that the "dream" is Absolute Truth .

 


 

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@Zeroguy So Zero, I heard, you need a therapeutic help? Let´s wait till Leo opens a section for fooling around ???

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34 minutes ago, Hulia said:

@Zeroguy So Zero, I heard, you need a therapeutic help? Let´s wait till Leo opens a section for fooling around ???

There, you would be all mine. But why just there? 

Was just stating my view. I said this stuff can be difficult not all sunshine and roses. 


I am a God. I am Infinite Love. 

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7 hours ago, Zeroguy said:

@Etherial Cat There is literally one "thing" in Reality which is all. Actual Love. 

So all emotions from "being inloved in" someone" to being mad at someone or something are caused by actual dualistic notions. There can't be this stuff without even slightest beleif in separate self. 

People who help are also falling in this category by default.

Being and emotions doesn't go hand in hand. All emotions and all thinking is false. 

You do not practice what you preach. Also, there is literally no reason for anyone to practice what you preach.

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Just now, AtheisticNonduality said:

You do not practice what you preach. Also, there is literally no reason for anyone to practice what you preach.

I am not enlightenment teacher, guru or anything else,really. 

Still giving you a full truth. Reason why you don't really recognize it is simple.You really ain't no actually awakaned. 

That's why Leo teachings can be dangerous because you will just create better conceptual model and many times misunderstanding of Reality. 

Also who will help Leo? You can't, really. 

Actual Enlightenment poses many questions. It's not really that simple as you think it is. 


I am a God. I am Infinite Love. 

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Just now, AtheisticNonduality said:

@Zeroguy Nope, I enjoy emotional love, compassion, friendship, and sexual pleasure too much to be unemotional.

Don't get me wrong I love all that stuff too. Problem is, fundamentally is just not the Truth. You are about it, don't you? 

Could speak from Absolute point of view. 

Problem is that you don't like to hear it. It literally crushes your life and view on it. 


I am a God. I am Infinite Love. 

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Personally I do not think this is wise, especially with what happend with Nahm and the guy that killed himself.

If this happens again under the supervision of a moderator then there will be investigations into actualized.org

If you are to do it then please vet the moderator extensively, perhaps get the depressed people to sign some sort of waiver. 

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Since most of your knowledge is conceptual and came from other source you mostly sound like brainwashed parrots. 


I am a God. I am Infinite Love. 

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Honest question @mandyjwhow much time you have spent actually meditating or using any psychedelic vs watching videos on non duality or gathering other conceptual information of other kind. That's all mind.

Please give honest answer and most of these guys are just the same. 

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I am a God. I am Infinite Love. 

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@Zeroguy I get you're pissed. I was there, too.

But at some point it just doesn't matter anymore. Who cares what others are doing or how conscious they are... 

Be te best you can be, and let others do their thing.

That's my friendly advice. That being said; I think you truly need professional help. For your own and everyone else's safety.

Peace.

 

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