Breaking News: Iran vows retaliation against Israel

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Iran is to retaliate against Israel after assassination of top Iranian nuclear scientist

Israel is preparing just in case Trump strikes Iran

Iran vows 'crushing response' to Israel as air strikes kill militiamen | Middle East Eye

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Note: It is not entirely clear if Israel was behind assassination...

Let's have this be the official discussion thread if this story progresses in an even more tragic direction, unless I make a new thread

 

 

Have this be a lesson for why conscious people should not just sit out of politics, precisely so that the devils don't govern. 

 

[Blackhawk]

Iran wont do much. It would be suicide, since Iran has such a weak military.

Iran didn't do anything when U.S. killed Qasem Soleimani (a general).

[Willie]

9 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Iran wont do much. It would be suicide, since Iran has such a weak military.

Iran didn't do anything when U.S. killed Qasem Soleimani (a general).

Iranians have been attacking the US Embassy in Baghdad for a couple months now.

[Preety_India]

I do feel bad for Iranians. 

 

[Blackhawk]

17 minutes ago, Willie said:

Iranians have been attacking the US Embassy in Baghdad for a couple months now.

Whatever they have done or are doing it's not significant enough.

[Thewritersunion]

@Preety_India all 83 million 

[Eren Eeager]

Why are we feeling bad for Iran, the fasciast country  which  has 10 times more enriched uranium than allowed by the deals that it made with the US? You break deals, expect to get your ass kicked. 

Edited November 28, 2020 by Eren Eeager

[Gesundheit]

BS. They're already in a constant fight against Israel, though by agency through Hizb Allah.

[TheSomeBody]

you need to be really high to think that israel has so much power and freedom to do this stuff... israel is a colonia of the usa , maybe it was something with israel but israel isnt resposible for that, usa does.
 

 

[Blackhawk]

I don't understand why Israel doesn't admit that they did the assasination. And US if it was a collaboration.

[PurpleTree]

leave europe out of the next ww please,

thanks guys

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Eren Eeager said:

Why are we feeling bad for Iran, the fasciast country  which  has 10 times more enriched uranium than allowed by the deals that it made with the US? You break deals, expect to get your ass kicked. 

It's the US who broke the deal. Iran is fully in its right to have nuclear weapons. And it's good for them to acquire them, so that they stop being bullied by the US and Israel.

The irony of nuclear weapons is that they actually prevent acts of violence like the one above, and any nation that does not have nukes get bullied.

[Nivsch]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's the US who broke the deal. Iran is fully in its right to have nuclear weapons.

From Israeli point of view, a stage red regime who says he wants to destroy Israel and can technically erase Israel with one atomic missile cannot be allowed to hold this weapon. 

Edited November 28, 2020 by Nivsch

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

From Israeli point of view, a stage red regime who says he wants to destroy Israel and can technically erase Israel with one atomic missile cannot be allowed to hold this weapon. 

Well, Israel's POV is just that, their selfish POV.

Iran is not going to launch nukes at Israel for the same reason no nation launches nukes at anyone else: because it would be suicidal. And Iran is not suicidal.

Iran is not stage Red, it's stage Blue. Iran has sensible leadership. They are not some nutcase terrorist rogue state. They have a giant civilization to defend.

[Nahm]

“Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the Mount.” 
― Omar N. Bradley

[Corpus]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

It's the US who broke the deal. Iran is fully in its right to have nuclear weapons. And it's good for them to acquire them, so that they stop being bullied by the US and Israel.

The irony of nuclear weapons is that they actually prevent acts of violence like the one above, and any nation that does not have nukes get bullied.

Pakistan got bullied by the US after 9/11 and decided to reap what it could from the bullying to gain financially from allowing supply routes to Afghanistan to aid the US intervention there. Being a nuclear power did not prevent the bullying.

[Vrubel]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, Israel's POV is just that, their selfish POV.

 

How would you feel if your parents/grandparents are holocaust survivors and your Jewish country is now threatened by another country with extermination? Will you allow them the means to do it?

I know the chance of them actually using the nukes to bomb is small (never zero though). But do you think it is responsible for those who look after Israel's security to let that one slip?

No, off-course not they will do anything in their power to choke the beast. Hoping one day their regime will fall at the hands of the Iranian people themselves, who are actually exceptionally developed for a middle eastern nation.

[peachboy]

Israel itself is an ethno-state, so it's not exactly top of the leaderboard in respect of Spiral Dynamics.

If death is impossible, then personal identity is an illusion, and if personal identity is an illusion, then collective identity is an illusion. Such illusions are antagonistic to our future as a collective consciousness. 

Therefore all ethno-states will eventually collapse, including Israel. And there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

[andyjohnsonman]

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

From Israeli point of view, a stage red regime who says he wants to destroy Israel and can technically erase Israel with one atomic missile cannot be allowed to hold this weapon. 

Russia have more nukes than any other country and are stage red/blue and have yet to destroy the world