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5 Meo DMT low dose after breakup with longterm relationship

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I want to share my 5 meo experience after my breakup one week before with a long term relationship (5 year).  During this week I was in very bad mood, was total depressed, watched a lot of porn, played video games and worked hard to distract me. I also did sport every day and was in a strong low carb diet. I lost 2 kg in this week.

So I thought it would be interesting to give 5 meo a try. I fastet 8 hours  and did 20 minutes meditation before the trip. I measured 2 cups ( 3 mg) 5 Meo hcl and used the boofing technique (https://www.reddit.com/user/WeirdOneTwoThree/comments/98o55b/guide_to_per_rectal_administration_of_opiates/ ) for optimal results (@ LeoGura, no you dont need to stick it in your ass for 1 Minutes it only needs 3 seconds).  I was not afraid at all, my mood was normal after meditation.

I played a song (Liquid Records), closed my eyes and the effects started immediately to kick in. A little nausea arised in beginning, then my breath got stronger. The trip went unpleasant, the music I did not enjoy at all. I had the feeling something is wrong/weired. I opened my eyes for some seconds and then in my mind comes the thought "I dont want to break reality right now, I dont want non duallity whatever that is". Strong fear kicked in and I closed my eyes again. I tried to relax, smiled. I managed the fear somehow but still very very unpleasant, my heart beat raised. I had strange headspace like everything is moving and I cannot locate where I am.

5 hours after the trip I went to sleep and a reactivation happened. I had strange trippy dreamthoughts and even if I closed my eyes it felt like everything is moving like a pile of worms. This was very unpleasant. I felt alone. In the end I could sleep well.

All in all I learned a lot from the trip. This trip had no positive vibrations at all, the music I did not enjoyed really and it was more like a distraction. And it seems you need to be in good mood for 5 meo otherwise it will be unpleasant. For me this low dose 5 meo experimentation comes to an end I think. Low dose can get very serious and not something to play around. 

I dont know what to do next with 5 meo. It was very interesting to master the plugging technique and get a little little taste what 5 meo can offer and whats it all about. This fear and unpleasantness which arives almost every second time hinders me to go further. My first trip ( 4 mg) was the only one I experienced bliss. It never happened again during any other trip. What are your experiences with low dose 5 meo and do you have similar experiences like mine?  

 

 

 

 

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Tripping just to avoid negative feelings and thoughts may not be the best idea. No wonder you had such a bad trip. I'm not sure if that was your intention though.

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@nistake This trip was not to avoid negative feelings but to learn more about this substance. A I said I mostly get no bliss from 5 meo low dose. The real purpose was to experiment with music during the trip ( I never did this before) and how it affects me. Also I was interested how the breakup affects the 5 meo trip. I have better tools to avoid negative feelings (sport, video games, porn), I clearly had no expectation what this trip will offer me, I was just curious.

And this was not a bad trip at all. It was very unpleasant, yes. Still I have no regrets and am happy right now I did overcome this challenge.

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@OBEler That's okay man. You learned from it and that's what matters. Next time try again, but with a clear intention and when your overall mood is much better.

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@nistake What are your experiences with low dose 5 meo? I gradually question if it is worth the risk. The purpose of 5 meo is to let the ego die as fast as possible. Maybe I quit low dose and come back if I am ready for a full experience where my ego will die in seconds. But this could take years.

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@OBEler

I would suggest from now on using 5-MeO only when you feel yourself amazingly. The purpose of 5-MeO is to help you to realize that you are God, everything is Love, the ego is the illusory concept, death is not real...

Let's say there is a serial killer. What does it mean to be the serial killer? It means this person holds a lot of beliefs that are not true. The person holds beliefs so strong, so deep, a life full of fear in other words. Imagine, the serial killer would take a breakthrough dose of 5-MeO. That would be a real nightmare... It's like to give a real gun to a kid... He would just don't know that he's shooting himself.

Well, I am sure, you also hold to some beliefs that are not true. 5-MeO just put the light on it. If you're still holding to them, even when there is light so to speak, the light that they are not true... The good news it can't go wrong really.

Have you tried smoking 5-MeO? 
Maybe, explore this road later in life, when you feel good in general and feel like doing 5-MeO again.
I can imagine that with smoking you have less choice to not surrender :) 


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1 hour ago, OBEler said:

During this week I was in very bad mood, was total depressed, watched a lot of porn, played video games and worked hard to distract me.

Distraction is avoidance of feeling, 5meo is the complete opposite. One perspective is that you were using it to feel better, and it was doing it’s thing, and it shed light on resistance & avoidance of feeling / brought that you’ve been going that route to the surface, as well as brought feeling to the surface. That’s just one interpretation. Sorry to hear of the break up. 


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I had the same experience when I first started experimenting with 5-meo. My trips were terrible. I was scared, anxious, it was uncomfortable, and I wanted it to stop. It gets worst before it gets better. The first time can be brutal until you break through. Once you on the other side, its pure bliss. The breakthrough actually changed my relationship with the substance. Every consecutive trip was pleasant and therapeutic regardless of the dose or the substance. 

5-MeO amplifies what you feel inside. If you're new to psychedelics, you will have internal baggage and bad karma that will get burned. I went through total hell on my first trips. Its just how the substance works, there's no free lunch here. Yet it's the best thing I've ever done.

Living a higher consciousness lifestyle and being inturned with spirituality will reduce the negative side effects for sure. Leo was pretty developed when he first did 5-meo, hence it wasn't as bad for him. But form personal experience, and the majority of reports I've read, the first attempts usually go bad.

I recommend you spend a few months getting over your ex, then get your life together by quitting video games and porn. Then go back to 5-meo and commit to 10 trips with increments in dosage.


"Beyond fear, destiny awaits" - Dune

 

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@Nahm Hm interesting interpretation. But these feelings during 5 meo felt,  I could not relate to the feelings with my breakup. I even had no thoughts about the breakup during and after the trip. It just felt like my ego is losing control and fear of the unknown. It is more like a existential fear. Fear of a life changing ego death experience I dont want to experience right now. 

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Again, just a perspective, and admittedly, respectfully, it might seem like a bold one for you.......what if you take a minute to reconsider your entire interpretation of the experience from the standpoint that you are, in a very literal sense, making up that there is an “ego”, and “fear”? 

How would you describe the experience if you took away those terms?


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@Nahm I would describe the experience like I did something really wrong and there is no return. And it came in waves, stronger and stronger. Pure mental stress. 

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@Arthur yeah thanks for your answer. Interesting I am not alone. On this forum there are so many breakthrough reports but low dose or unpleasant reports, even where nothing special happens at all are rare. I think there must be more of these reports, just to give a more realistic perspective on this substance.

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I suggest you try 2-CB for more self-actualization / new start / healing purposes. 5-MeO is for trascendence and for surrender, although of course one´s relative life (ego life) can benefit someties greatly from the trips. 

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@OBEler

It sounds like you’re in between paradigms / perspectives / interpretations that how you feel is caused by outside sources or an external world...and that how you feel is only directly relative to the perspectives, thoughts, views & interpretations you’re holding. That transition in life is perfectly natural, innocent... and unavoidable, unless one distracts from feeling by missing that thinking about feeling is not feeling, in the same and likely highly relevant sense that thinking about relaxation is not the feeling of relaxation, and letting perspectives of discord go by figuring them out or trying to resolve them, is not actually letting them go. 

Distracting from feeling by thinking about feeling....rather than letting thinking go & feeling, slows down understanding, personal growth, and the natural changing of perspectives allowing realizations, insights & epiphanies to arise. It’d work itself out from meditation, inspection & the living of life. Psychedelics accelerate the seeing of this transition, leaving you to do the feeling & letting go ‘work’, which could be considered the most fundamental transition / growth / expansion a human experiences (letting go of thoughts / perspectives / interpretations that don’t resonate / taking ownership of how you feel & what experience you create). This would be especially difficult if you took a psychedelic, but were not seeing this, and therefore applying the old paradigm to an experience / substance which is showing you the new one. 

A ‘frame’ if you will for the sake of communicating....we’re born, we create much misunderstanding, we suffer (feeling the thoughts which are of misunderstanding), we recognize the suffering is caused by misunderstanding, we emotionally release misunderstanding, and understanding, peace, and love ‘fills in’ / is revealed. 

Also, same thing but different verbiage....that old paradigm is basically what keeps the identifying at play, the new one is the result of letting the old one go, which is very emotional, so again, noticing the tendency for distraction, and choosing not to, to do breathing / feeling into the body exercises instead, seeing emotion comes and goes, is key. In avoidance of feeling and letting go, the mind weaves a narrative about everything else to essentially justify the feeling which doesn’t feel good with interpretations like...unpleasant, nothing special happens, more realistic perspective on this substance, something is wrong / i did something wrong, pure mental stress, fear, ego, ego death, ego dying, negative feelings, bad mood, depressed, etc. These are all thoughts about feeling. Every single one of them is only a thought about feeling, not feeling. None of the thoughts are actually about you, they’re only being believed to be about you. You are the awareness, which is aware of, and not attached to, the thoughts. 

 


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@allislove I think smoking is good if you want a breakthrough experience. if you are not ready for a breakthrough and still want to experience value from 5 meo you need to go low dose. And plugging low dose is good to master. Because you cannot overshoot really

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@OBEler 

I see a little value in 5-MeO if you don't want to have a breakthrough. 
Acid or shrooms may be way better in such a case.


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@allislove I experienced one time bliss with low dose 5 meo. It is possible. I wish I could trigger this experience again. Any advice is welcome.

5 meo for me is a great substance, you just need 30 minutes of time. Easy to consume if plugged and no hangovers. And almost no tolerance at all. Furthermore if Nahm is right, 5 meo low dose could burn some karma if you bring stuff to the surface. 

i rarely do LSD because you really have 8 hours effects and I dont like this trippy feeling. 5 meo is much more clearer.

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@OBEler 

I agree with you. 5-MeO is amazing. It's the clearest psychedelic from my experience. The thing is, even on the low dose you can breakthrough, depends on you. It's essential to know how to let go. Meditation, every morning, 1 hour, attention on deep breathing teaches you that. You are the bliss.


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1) Don't trip when you are in a bad mood.

2) Don't trip for the purpose of experiencing bliss or pleasure.

Those are your two mistakes.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@allislove you are right, low dose is breakthrough possible. I felt like I could not hold on to anything and this was scary. Like if I would go deeper I would not know where is up and down. total delocalization.  I think this is what ego loss must be.

@Leo Gura You are right. Pushing an experience to get bliss goes wrong. It is like forcing to love someone you dont like. It doesnt work that way.

I will make a break for now with 5 meo. When I come back I will be in for a breakthrough experience. Enough of this low dose experimentation.

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