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Having problem researching about Schizophrenia

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@Leo Gura

So in Leo's video "35+ Subfields Of Self-Help"

Leo said about mental illness

"You're not the first person to have this problem, people have been having this for thousands of years, and there are experts and books and materials that have been designed and written for just your situation, so you don't have to reinvent the wheel, you don't have to be in the dark, you just gotta go and be willing to do research and find that specific expertise you need in your specific issue."

In my case that problem is that I was diagnosed mild schizophrenia.

I'm having problem with researching about my problem, and I keep on finding only "there is no cure but only treatment and management"

Anyone know of anyone who's outgrown Schizophrenia or have any information about curing Schizophrenia?

@Leo Gura Do you have any idea what Schizophrenia is? Any deep insights about the matter?

Also in your recent blog video "My Health Situation"  you talked about the guy that dealt with Bad energy and stuff, I thought I might also get some benefits from that guy as well.. but I don't think you'd like to talk about sourcing and stuff so ..

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@Leo Gura Leo are there anything you have to say about Schizophrenia?


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On 8/4/2020 at 11:46 PM, Frosty97 said:

@Leo Gura Leo are there anything you have to say about Schizophrenia?

I don't know much about schizophrenia, or mild for that matter, but there seems to be a lot of resources online by just typing in schizophrenia or how to deal with scizophrenia.  I used google. 

I will say though, I'd get atleast one other diagnosis before accepting a determination that you have mild schizophrenia, sometimes diagnosis change or vary between therapists.

 

https://www.health.harvard.edu/a_to_z/schizophrenia-a-to-z

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What is Shizophrenia? What is Psychosis? What are mental disorders?

It seems to me a lot of people just dont know for sure (including doctors, psychologists, etc.). Yeah they read some stuff about it here and there and there are different forms of shizophrenia and then they give other human beings that label and some medication that just make them to a zombie. There is so much more to learn about it.

Every conscious mind is unique. You must find out for yourself what that really is. Do not let it hold you back from pursuing enlightenment if that is your goal. There is a lot of research you can do. Read a lot of different kind of books about shizophrenia, do meditation,shamanic breathing, yoga, self-inquiry, research psychic powers, shamanism, kundalini, enlightenment and go do research about psychedelics and do mild doses of them if you are old and mature enough. Explore your conscioussnes. Find what works best for yourself.

Here is what Terence McKenna said about shizophrenia:

"Schizophrenia is just a catch-all term for forms of mental behavior that we don’t understand. In the 19th century, there was a term “melancholia,” which we would now call bipolar depression, so forth and so on. But all forms of sadness, unhappiness, maladaptation, so forth and so on, were poured into this label “melancholia.”
Now, schizophrenia is a similar thing. I can remember an experience I had years ago, it was in the Tolman Library at the University of California, which is the psych library, and I was looking up some drug or something, and I just saw a book and I pulled it off the shelf, a book about schizophrenia. And it said, “the typical schizophrenic lives in a world of twilight imagining, marginal to his society, incapable of holding a regular job, these people live on the fringes, content to drift in their own self-created value systems.” {And I thought,} That’s it! That’s it! Now I understand!…
We have no tradition of shamanism. We have no tradition of journeying into these mental worlds. We are terrified of madness. We fear it because the Western mind is a house of cards, and the people who built that house of cards know that, and they are terrified of madness. Tim Leary once said – or I gave him credit for saying; he later told me he never said it – but whoever said it, this was a brilliant statement; someone once said, “LSD is a psychedelic substance which occasionally causes psychotic behaviour in people who have not taken it.” – right? And I would bet you that more people have exhibited psychotic behaviour from not taking LSD, but just thinking about it, than ever exhibited it from taking it – certainly in my family. I watched my parents both go psychotic from the mere fact that LSD existed; they would never have taken it.
There is a great phobia about the mind: the Western mind is very queasy when first principles are questioned. Rarer than corpses in this society are the untreated mad, because we can’t come to terms with that. A shaman is someone who swims in the same ocean as the schizophrenic, but the shaman has thousands and thousands of years of sanctioned technique and tradition to draw upon. In a traditional society, if you exhibited “schizophrenic” tendencies, you are immediately drawn out of the pack and put under the care and tutelage of master shamans. You are told: “You are special. Your abilities are very central to the health of our society. You will cure. You will prophesy. You will guide our society in its most fundamental decisions.” Contrast this with what a person exhibiting schizophrenic activity in our society is told. They’re told: “You don’t fit in. You are becoming a problem. You don’t pull your own weight. You are not of equal worth to the rest of us. You are sick. You have to go to the hospital. You have to be locked up.” – You are on a par with prisoners and lost dogs in our society. So that treatment of schizophrenia makes it incurable.
Imagine if you were slightly odd, and the solution were to take you and put you – lock you into a place where everyone was seriously mad. That would drive anyone mad! If you’ve ever been in a madhouse, you know that it’s an environment calculated to make you crazy and to keep you crazy. This would never happen in an aboriginal or traditional society. I wrote a book, I mean this has to be the wrap-up, because we’re over time – but I wrote a book called The Archaic Revival; I signed it tonight for some of you. The idea there is that we have gone sick by following a path of untrammeled rationalism, male dominance, attention to the visible surface of things, practicality, bottom-line-ism. We have gone very, very sick. And the body politic, like any body, when it feels itself to be sick, it begins to produce antibodies, or strategies for overcoming the condition of dis-ease. And the 20th century is an enormous effort at self-healing.
Phenomena as diverse as surrealism, body piercing, psychedelic drug use, sexual permissiveness, jazz, experimental dance, rave culture, tattooing, the list is endless. What do all these things have in common? They represent various styles of rejection of linear values. The society is trying to cure itself by an archaic revival, by a reversion to archaic values. So when I see people manifesting sexual ambiguity, or scarifying themselves, or showing a lot of flesh, or dancing to syncopated music, or getting loaded, or violating ordinary canons of sexual behavior, I applaud all of this; because it’s an impulse to return to what is felt by the body – what is authentic, what is archaic – and when you tease apart these archaic impulses, at the very center of all these impulses is the desire to return to a world of magical empowerment of feeling.
And at the center of that impulse is the shaman: stoned, intoxicated on plants, speaking with the spirit helpers, dancing in the moonlight, and vivifying and invoking a world of conscious, living mystery. That’s what the world is. The world is not an unsolved problem for scientists or sociologists. The world is a living mystery: our birth, our death, our being in the moment – these are mysteries. They are doorways opening on to unimaginable vistas of self-exploration, empowerment and hope for the human enterprise. And our culture has killed that, taken it away from us, made us consumers of shoddy products and shoddier ideals. We have to get away from that; and the way to get away from it is by a return to the authentic experience of the body – and that means sexually empowering ourselves, and it means getting loaded, exploring the mind as a tool for personal and social transformation.
The hour is late; the clock is ticking; we will be judged very harshly if we fumble the ball. We are the inheritors of millions and millions of years of successfully lived lives and successful adaptations to changing conditions in the natural world. Now the challenge passes to us, the living, that the yet-to-be-born may have a place to put their feet and a sky to walk under; and that’s what the psychedelic experience is about, is caring for, empowering, and building a future that honours the past, honors the planet and honors the power of the human imagination.
There is nothing as powerful, as capable of transforming itself and the planet, as the human imagination. Let’s not sell it {short?} straight. Let’s not whore ourselves to nitwit ideologies. Let’s not give our control over to the least among us. Rather, you know, claim your place in the sun and go forward into the light. The tools are there; the path is known; you simply have to turn your back on a culture that has gone sterile and dead, and get with the programme of a living world and a re-empowerment of the imagination. Thank you very, very much."
-Terence McKenna

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