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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Toxic Masculinity: Guys who fear that masculinity is under attack and threatened with extinction.

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Being afraid to wipe your own ass properly because “ain’t no real man supposed to be near there” I think I saw that on reddit a while back. Terrifying? Hilarious? You decide.

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Sumo culture is a clear cut example of toxic masculinity:

 

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 

 

At 6:22 he makes a good point about how true masculine has been watered down into macho toxic masculinity and has also been watered down into toxic femininity masking itself as masculine, a good example of this is:

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Toxic Masculinity: Guys who look up to and admire Trump as their ideal of a man :D

Toxic Masculinity: letting another human live rent free in your head

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Toxic Masculinity: Guys who use the phrase "soyboy"

This is true mainly because it's used as an insult rather than to describe an archetype of toxic masculine men.

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Toxic Masculinity: Guys who consider themselves alpha and fear being beta.

Toxic Masculinity: Guys who fear that masculinity is under attack and threatened with extinction.

Good examples of toxic masculinity

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Toxic Masculinity: Guys who love to complain about and blame feminists but never read a single feminist book and are proud of it.

Reading that book on feminism you like to mention must save you a lot of time not examining whether or not there is or has been a toxic side to modern feminism, otherwise complaining and blaming is characteristic of someone who is toxic in general.

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4 hours ago, MsNobody said:

@flowboy @Display_Name the fact you don’t see anything wrong with Dan Bilzerian and Jordan Peterson just shows where you are at in the game. :ph34r:

Lol, and where did I say that? I said nothing about my personal evaluation on him, you just made it up an projected it on me. Shows where you are at in the game. :ph34r:

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Lets talk about mens issue playlist. 

this can help you understanding toxic masculinity and also fixing it. 

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1 hour ago, moth said:

Toxic Masculinity: letting another human live rent free in your head

like your dad basically. or like you if you‘d ever have a family. they come into your house with basically nothing and then expect you to feed them wipe their ass and do all sorts of things for them these useless bastards. 

you can send 20$ dollar over to my account because i spared you the experience to ever even think about having a family - and let your twisted words move through my head. its pretty obvious who lives in yours.

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17 minutes ago, Chumbimba said:

Real men don't piss at all ;) haven't used the bathroom since I got out of diapers

Kim Jong-Un - "Allow me to reintroduce myself."


"Your mind can never change, unless you ask it to. Lovingly rearrange, the thoughts that make you blue."

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30 minutes ago, Keyhole said:

Toxic masculinity doesn't allow women to be angry, you can see this in action when a woman doesn't act in line she's called Karen

I agree with your entire post, except this part is a misunderstanding.

I'm sure people use it too liberally and excessively, but the true meaning of the "Karen" meme is referring to videos of women (typically middle-aged white women by volume) engaging in exceptionally stupid and/or unreasonable behavior that is universally demonized as socially unacceptable.

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"Your mind can never change, unless you ask it to. Lovingly rearrange, the thoughts that make you blue."

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14 hours ago, flowboy said:

Okay, because I asked you to explain the toxic masculinity of it. So then if you respond to that with a bunch of unrelated criticisms of JP, that have nothing to do with toxic masculinity I'm going to call you on that.

I did not ignore your explanation. I read it and it makes sense. He according to you associates women with chaos and men with order.

Is the value judgment on chaos as being negative from you, by the way, or from him?

Because I actually think you need both. From chaos comes creativity, progression and new ideas. Without order, they would not get implemented.

I apologize for my tone yesterday, I was a bit irritable.  

I see others have answered a lot of your questions and did a hood job explaining.

 

I'll add that the concept of toxic masculinity is not to shame men.  Quite the opposite, it is used to LIBERATE men and women from unhealthy thinking and behaviors.  Do yourself a favor and try to understand the concept and apply it to contemplation of yourself and your behavior.  It may end up freeing you from the harmful limits that culture puts on you.

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15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This shit: The Proud Boys

 

I'm always thrown off by the proud boys. it's usually farm boys and incelish guys without any sort of style that I usually associate with redpill but the proudboys are like hipster redpillers. 

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On 23-7-2020 at 3:50 PM, MsNobody said:

@flowboy @Display_Name men at stage orange and below will show clear signs of toxic masculinity, the fact you don’t see anything wrong with Dan Bilzerian and Jordan Peterson just shows where you are at in the game. :ph34r:

@MsNobody Wow, great "argument". I ask you to put your point in words and you simply fail. Not only that, but you lash out at me and say "if you have to ask then there's something wrong with you". Very mature! You and your stubborn refusal to provide any reasoning to back up your statements, thus derailing healthy debate, are a prime example of toxic femininity. Or is it toxic masculinity? Which one do you prefer? I don't care. Be a grown-up.

Your evasiveness or inability to explain yourself convinces me of what I already suspected: you love to use the phrase "toxic masculinity" without understanding what it is and what it is not. Rather, you relish the opportunity to just randomly name some famous men that you have some sort of beef with, and call it "toxic masculinity".

Did you know that it doesn't just apply to men? Did you know that each woman and man and everything else have femininity as well as masculinity inside them? I'm guessing you didn't know that.

I'm objecting to your childish impulse to hijack an intelligent debate to drag some names through the mud. If you think that there's something inherently wrong with stage Orange, or stage Orange men in particular, then you're just missing the point. These stages were not conceptualized for you as a tool to shame and judge people with and help you feel superior.

Or just be honest and admit that you are just blabbering nonsense about people because they trigger some issues for you. My recommendation is to figure that out with a therapist, but if you must, there's probably some feminist extremist forums where you can vent all your rage against these men and no one will ask you to make logical sense or stay on topic.

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Dan Bilzerian is a fraud btw, just so people know lol.

 


"Your mind can never change, unless you ask it to. Lovingly rearrange, the thoughts that make you blue."

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@AtheisticNonduality I'm not saying he doesn't. I'm saying it's important to explain how and why when you give people these negative labels, otherwise the conversation degrades into a shitshow. To quote JP: "Be precise in your speech" ;)


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@flowboy calm down man ? 

I’m not a feminist to begin with and yes I‘m already doing therapy, are you? 

Btw just a heads up I’m done with this conversation, the one being triggered here is you who took a good 10 minutes to write a huge rage text, I have more interesting things to do but I appreciate you sharing your opinion.

God bless you 

 

 


"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Shakespeare

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@MsNobody You came in, threw some mud, now you're done. Without backing up one shitty thing you said about me, dan bilzerian, Display_Name, or anyone else who disagrees with you or even questions you. You can see why your incapability of having a mature discussion annoys me.


I help adults with ADD to overcome self-doubt, function optimally and live their dreams through my proprietary coaching program.

https://calendly.com/erik-coaching/add-coaching-free-strategy-consult

Besides that, ♂ I offer single breakthrough calls for men on social life, dating, relationships and sexuality.

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