All that's happening (its not mystical)

[VeganAwake]

We are on a planet that has all the ingredients for life to exist as we know it today with unlimited potential.

Human beings for no reason whatsoever have evolved enough to create an illusory experience of a separate identity within these human bodies.

There can be an Indescribable recognition of this happening for no apparent reason whatsoever (Awakening) 

This happening is then recognized by no one to be empty and full, everything and nothing, real and unreal.

Real in the sense that it's apparently what's happening...it's THIS... everything that is experienced is it.

Unreal in the sense that it's empty of meaning purpose and value... there's no goal, agenda or outcome that needs to be fulfilled... in that sense it's pure unconditional freedom it's already perfect it's already whole it's already complete because its WHAT IS.

No one or no thing is in charge of this Runaway Train or dictating which way the train heads.

So in that sense there's nothing to do because it's already it.

It's already Paradise it's already the Kingdom of Heaven it's already fulfilled it's already unconditional love.

 

 

[ivankiss]

Cool story ?

[VeganAwake]

28 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Cool story ?

Stories are cool and fun too!! There what's happening!!

[allislove]

@VeganAwake

This resonates ☺️

 

[Consilience]

It’s complete magic, absolutely mystical 

[VeganAwake]

45 minutes ago, Consilience said:

It’s complete magic, absolutely mystical 

? ordinary and extraordinary

[Javfly33]

It's so mystical it can make such magic trick to trick itself to think that reality is ordinary and material ?

[VeganAwake]

4 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

It's so mystical it can make such magic trick to trick itself to think that reality is ordinary and material ?

Yep...Even the material is extraordinary...

Just look at a bike or a pencil or a flashlight... they're truly Indescribable and unknowable.

[Javfly33]

22 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Yep...Even the material is extraordinary...

Just look at a bike or a pencil or a flashlight... they're truly Indescribable and unknowable.

Exactly.

The false self assumes that an object corresponds with a thought...

Yet the object is always already there without any thoughts...

So THIS is always prior to any stories of the false self.

This means Such Unconditional Freedom as you said, that can't never really be touched or corrupted ?

 

[VeganAwake]

46 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Exactly.

The false self assumes that an object corresponds with a thought...

Yet the object is always already there without any thoughts...

So THIS is always prior to any stories of the false self.

This means Such Unconditional Freedom as you said, that can't never really be touched or corrupted ?

 

❤ yep it lays down its version of reality on top of what already IS and then operates from that perspective reality.

If 'I' meditate do yoga and eat white rice... everyone else that meditates and does yoga and eats white rice is good and everyone else is bad. 

If you look at a bird and label it as a bird, you will never see the bird again.

It's Unknowing!!

 

[James123]

2 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

❤ yep it lays down its version of reality on top of what already IS and then operates from that perspective reality.

If 'I' meditate do yoga and eat white rice... everyone else that meditates and does yoga and eats white rice is good and everyone else is bad. 

If you look at a bird and label it as a bird, you will never see the bird again.

It's Unknowing!!

 

definitely. The funniest shit is, you are not even in the body, how can you convinced yourself that you can learn, thoughts, words, understanding or seeing from the eyes, third eye, universe vs. Meanwhile body is empty. Lol  so how can you know something  directly unknowing, anything that you know doesn’t represent it, because it is something, but this is nothing therefore everything   

[VeganAwake]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

definitely. The funniest shit is, you are not even in the body, how can you convinced yourself that you can learn, thoughts, words, understanding or seeing from the eyes, third eye, universe vs. Meanwhile body is empty. Lol  so how can you know something  directly unknowing, anything that you know doesn’t represent it, because it is something, but this is nothing therefore everything   

Yahtzee! got it ?

And everything the illusory self thinks it knows is also it...its always ONE

The great unknowable everythingness  

 

[VeganAwake]

It can't be lost because even the feeling of losing it is still it.....weehoo ?

[seeking_brilliance]

@VeganAwake what is your experience and opinion on vivid dreaming, lucid Dreaming, and mystical experiences like phychic hits and synchrocities? 

[VeganAwake]

32 minutes ago, seeking_brilliance said:

@VeganAwake what is your experience and opinion on vivid dreaming, lucid Dreaming, and mystical experiences like phychic hits and synchrocities? 

I don't really have an opinion on any of these things. If they are being experienced or experimented with there, that's what's happening. 

Energy is boundless so anything is possible. There's no right or wrong good or bad. ?

[WaveInTheOcean]

who's realizing no one is in charge?

[WaveInTheOcean]

"Human beings for no reason whatsoever have evolved enough to create an illusory experience of a separate identity within these human bodies."

mnjahhahhhh

So you say it's purely random that human beings evolved on this lump of rock?:D 

I think this is all a dream, yes. One big dreamy happening. There is no one in the dream, indeed. But who's dreaming? Who dreamed up stars and galaxies and planets and earth? Who dreamed up human beings? That's the question you should dive deeper into.

It's not an accident that you are alive on this planet. Of course I agree, in a sense no one are alive, we are all death already, there is no self inside any person's head, sure, its illusion.

But who is being tricked by this illusion of self?  

And... what is the point of all this? I mean if it isnt random, there surely must be a point.

I'd say the dreamer is intelligent and loving. And the dream is constructed in such a way, that ultimately the dreamer always realizes he/she/'it' is dreaming, and that's the most magical moment. The more far out the dreamer can get in believing in the dream 'as real', the more of a relief it is to finally wake up
 

Quote

From The Book...On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are
By Alan Watts

     When children ask me those fundamental metaphysical questions which come so readily to their minds --  “Where did the world come from?” “Why did God make the world?” “Where was I before I was born?” “Where do people go when they die?”  -- again and again I have found that they seem to be satisfied with a simple and very ancient story, which goes something like this:

      “There was never a time when the world began, because it goes round and round like a circle, and there is no place on a circle where it begins. Look at my watch, which tells the time; it goes round, and so the world repeats itself again and again. But just as the hour-hand of the watch goes up to twelve and down to six, so, too, there is day and night, waking and sleeping, living and dying, summer and winter. You can’t have any one of these without the other, because you wouldn’t be able to know what black is without white, or white unless side-by-side with black.

      “In the same way, there are times when the world is, and times when it isn’t, for if the world went on and on without rest for ever and ever, it would get horribly tired of itself. It comes and it goes. Now you see it; now you don’t. So because it doesn’t get tired of itself, it always comes back again after it disappears. It’s like your breath: it goes in and out, in and out, and if you try to hold it in all the time you feel terrible. It’s also like the game of hide-and-seek, because it’s always fun to find new ways of hiding, and to seek for someone who doesn’t always hide in the same place.

      “God also likes to play hide-and-seek, but because there is nothing outside of God, he has no one but himself to play with. But he gets over this difficulty by pretending that he is not himself. This is his way of hiding from himself. He pretends that he is you and I and all the people in the world, all the animals, all the plants, all the rocks, and all the stars. In this way he has strange and wonderful adventures, some of which are terrible and frightening. But these are just like bad dreams, for when he wakes up they will disappear.

      “Now when God plays hide and pretends that he is you and I, he does it so well that it takes him a long time to remember where and how he hid himself. But that’s the whole fun of it -- just what he wanted to do. He doesn’t want to find himself too quickly, for that would spoil the game. That is why it is so difficult for you and me to find out that we are God in disguise, pretending not to be himself. But when the game has gone on long enough, all of us will wake up, stop pretending, and remember that we are all one single Self -- the God who is all that there is and who lives for ever and ever.

      “Of course you must remember that God isn’t shaped like a person. People have skins and there is always something outside our skins. If there weren’t, we wouldn’t know the difference between what is inside and outside our bodies. But God has no skin and no shape because there isn’t any outside to him. The inside and outside of God are the same. And though I have been talking about God as ‘he’ and not ‘she,’ God isn’t a man or a woman. I didn’t say ‘it’ because we usually say ‘it’ for things that aren’t alive.

      “God is the Self of the world, but you can’t see God for the same reason that, without a mirror, you can’t see your own eyes, and you certainly can’t bite your own teeth or look inside your head. Your self is that cleverly hidden because it is God hiding.

      “You may ask why God sometimes hides in the form of horrible people, or pretends to be people who suffer great disease and pain. Remember, first, that he isn’t really doing this to anyone but himself. Remember, too, that in almost all the stories you enjoy there have to be bad people as well as good people, for the thrill of the tale is to find out how the good people will get the better of the bad. It’s the same as when we play cards. At the beginning of the game we shuffle them all into a mess, which is like the bad things in the world, but the point of the game is to put the mess into good order, and the one who does it best is the winner. Then we shuffle the cards once more and play again, and so it goes with the world.”

 The point of life is to live. The point of dreaming (living) is that it is Love's way to share itself - Love - with itself., nothing else. Pure Love, pure imagination. That's all there is to reality, and by "that's all" I just happen to mean absolute infinity. Some call it 'God' as well.

God = Love = Consciousness = The Self = The "Dreamer" ... that's you , that's me. Human beings are imaginary like everything else within the dream. Even to believe that there is 'no one' i.e that. 'no one is in control'  , even that is seen to be imagination:D <3 

And you call that "not mystical". I call it fuckingly amazingly i-shit-you-not MYSTICAL!  <3 

Edited July 1, 2020 by WaveInTheOcean

[seeking_brilliance]

humans dream, the earth dreams, the sun dreams, the cosmos, and so on--- dreams within dreams, within the dream of dreaming. 

[VeganAwake]

@WaveInTheOcean  hey my friend,

nothing recognizes it and that is also a story. It's truly unknowable!

What doesn't happen is jumping to conclusions such as its God Consciousness awareness true self higher self and so on....

There's no one here to know hence why it's been called A Dream.

Its a runaway train with no drivers... nothing is dictating No Agenda no goal no purpose.

It's Freer than free...

It's THIS ❤

 

 

[WaveInTheOcean]

6 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

@WaveInTheOcean  hey my friend,

nothing recognizes it and that is also a story. It's truly unknowable!

What doesn't happen is jumping to conclusions such as its God Consciousness awareness true self higher self and so on....

There's no one here to know hence why it's been called A Dream.

Its a runaway train with no drivers... nothing is dictating No Agenda no goal no purpose.

It's Freer than free...

It's THIS ❤

 

 

I know though

The purpose is for the Self to wake up. I'm speaking from direct experience, this is not a belief , ofc I cannot communicate it clearly with woeds.

The Self knows. I am The Self so ofc i know. By being the Self i am everybody.

Im not jumping to any conclusions, i know i am everybody and everything, and that is really beautiful (from direct experience)