Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

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@Leo Gura true, and even at that point as a stage purple you’d have to give up so much of your dear values and belonging to a tribe in order to be self empowered, and it’s a scary as fuck way of life too. 
 

maybe thats one good way to appreciate Red in my view, it’s hard to do so otherwise, if our best examples that we are always referring to are MAGA or Hitler. 

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Darth Leo slaying all of his detractors.          

   


I'm not friendly.

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"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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The reaction of the last guy at 2:43 is a healthy Red example imo cuz he's using his balls to save someone in danger.

 

 


I'm not friendly.

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Eminem, Detroit, rappers from poor countries/cities/neighborhoods.etc are almost always at stage Red in the beginning of their careers.

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Unconditional stimulus- BEIGE

Conditional stimulus- RED

 


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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Very interesting social experiment: 10 boys live in the same house for 5 days without adults. The same experiment is repeated with girls instead.

There are so many interesting psychological theories one can dig into here, but generally it's a good illustration of gender differences, social hierarchies, personality types, cognitive development etc..

 

 

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Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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"The strong do what they can while the weak suffer what they must." -- Thucydides

Captures the Red worldview perfectly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos

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The Athenians offer the Melians an ultimatum: surrender and pay tribute to Athens, or be destroyed. The Athenians do not wish to waste time arguing over the morality of the situation, because in practice might makes right—or, in their own words, "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must".

The Melians argue that they are a neutral city and not an enemy, so Athens has no need to conquer them. The Athenians counter that if they accept Melos' neutrality and independence, they would look weak: Their subjects would think that they left Melos alone because they were not strong enough to conquer it.

The Melians argue that an invasion will alarm the other neutral Greek states, who will become hostile to Athens for fear of being invaded themselves. The Athenians counter that the other Greek states on the mainland are unlikely to act this way, because they are free and independent and thus loath to take up arms against Athens. What worries Athens is potential rebellions in its empire from disgruntled peoples they have already conquered. Conquering Melos will demonstrate Athens' strength and discourage rebellions.

The Melians argue that it would be shameful and cowardly of them to submit without a fight. The Athenians counter that it is only shameful to submit to an opponent whom one has a reasonable chance of defeating. There is no shame in submitting to an overwhelmingly superior opponent like Athens.

 


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Stage Red prevention. That's why moderating content is important.

 

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