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How do we stop Stage Red in our society?

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Gangs, prisons, high school kids fighting eachother, how do we eradicate this value system? (By eradicate, I mean never be an issue in society).

 


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Your actual question is 'How do we solve the problem of evil in society'. I gather this from your question because Stage Red isn't inherently evil, we associate it with evil. Well, we all know the answer to that question - Own the aspects of you that are evil and that contribute to evil.


"Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one." - Bruce Lee

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It’s not an easy issue. One orientation of many Greens is that the aggression of red can be remedied by sitting around a campfire singing Kumbaya. This often allows red to abuse and take advantage of green. 

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Education and discussion.  De-escalation.

When people are acting in my life like that, I find the best way is to go close, look them in the eye, stay calm and have a discussion based around values and desired outcomes which work for everyone.

Red is the "you put me in a corner" reaction of someone who feels threatened and weak.  If you show them in a situation that you are there for their benefit as well as the benefit of others and not just in it for yourself, you can tap them into one of the collectivist stages.

Red is darkness. Shine a light on it.

You can't stop it in society, but you can stop it in your life one person at a time.

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Too bad the video is taken down, didn't get to see. What do you mean by "stopping red"? I wish you would stop speaking in code. You mean you want people to stop forming gangs based on ethnicity and fighting each other, right? Well, create a safe and a fair environment, where your survival and well-being isn't being threatened and where you don't feel that your group is taken advantage of by another group, aka the opposite of what is currently being done.

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We already have a pretty complex system for dealing with red called the criminal justice system. I'd say it's more about reforming this so it's more ethical and habilitating. We have to get everyone on the same page that we need a more collective system if we wish to advance further. 

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Substantially increasing economic equality and implementing Green social support systems like, safe injection sites, UBI, etc.

Stage Red is the result of people's survival being so difficult (or believing it is), that they stay preoccupied with selfishly trying to thrive at the expense of others, because they think there is no other alternative.

However if everyone gets enough resources, without discrimination, they would have no reason to commit crime. Why live a stressful life full of suffering when there is an easier peaceful alternative? The problem is they aren't the only selfish ones, Blue and Orange can be quite selfish hence why they don't want to lift Red up with Green ideas (social programs, welfare).

The structure and authority of Blue can only help so many Red. We need to do more, and we can. If we have the heart.

I wouldn't really consider "high school kids" apart of the problem. Of course they can become criminals but the majority of teenagers outgrow Red, unless you're impoverished like many minorities unfortunately.

 

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@Husseinisdoingfine I'd like to give you a challenge - Find approval for Stage Red.

Right now, we are seeing a point in history where a lot of Stage Blue systems are breaking down, or are being broken down. What this will result in is Stage Red showing itself here and there. Stage Red has been suppressed because Blue has made such an enemy of it. We need to be able to find approval for Red and find ways to integrate it.

Here's what I like about Red:

  • Being edgy, not caring about consequences
  • Being raw and authentic, no morality involved. For example, Hitler didn't care about being politically correct when expressing his hatred for Jews. Now of course I'm not condoning the Holocaust or Nazism. I'm saying that because Hitler freely expressed himself in his book 'Mein Kampf', we clearly know his reasons for doing what he did.
  • Not caring about what other people think when chasing power or status
  • The ability to be ruthless in a competitive/dangerous environment. The willingness to say 'Alright. This is what I want, you are getting in my way, so I will do everything in my power to get you out of my way.' I believe you need to have this quality in order to keep/defend your power/success.

"Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one." - Bruce Lee

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You don't. You worry about yourself. These colors are non-sense. I see all stages contributing to the global collapse. Some are just more sophisticated sounding in doing so. 

Stage red will be stage red. They are not the driver of our problems. It's the good people (higher stages) who do nothing about it. 

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On 14/06/2020 at 2:04 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Gangs, prisons, high school kids fighting eachother, how do we eradicate this value system? (By eradicate, I mean never be an issue in society).

 

It starts on the individual level. Not group identity or victim card in any form. If anything, double down on your practice. Upgrade your software. If i have the rights to bare arms and the riots come, i wish bad guys luck but I will defend 1. Family 2. Friends 3. Myself. I pray it doesn't happen but I am prepared. 

There's always chaos and if you look at the wheel of insanity, people are ignorant assuming voting for free shit or throwing a hissy fit. 

It starts with the individual. It follows with the nuclear family and fathers not government in the household. A marker for poor outcomes is the absence of fathers. 

I am excited to celebrate fathers day tomorrow. 

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8 hours ago, DivineSoda said:

You don't. You worry about yourself. These colors are non-sense. I see all stages contributing to the global collapse. Some are just more sophisticated sounding in doing so. 

Stage red will be stage red. They are not the driver of our problems. It's the good people (higher stages) who do nothing about it. 

I have to agree. I heard, if not for the few higher consciousness 900-1000+ calibration, mankind would be obliterated. I think it was power vs force hawkin or levels of energy frederick dodson. 

Thread starter, much of the chaos isnt involving you or i. Its crazy. You can not fix it. By contact, it effects your peace. Rejuvenate your spirit. Go in nature. Reconnect. It is healing. 

I don't involve myself unless it comes for me or my loved ones. Thank god it has not. ?

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The same way you think about developing any poor community or country. Basic things like GDP, education, dealing with poverty, etc.

Also, praise be to Jesus 


Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough

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THERAPY and access to affordable mental health.

I strongly believe the prison system should be redesigned to help criminals with their neurosis.  Education and therapy while serving their sentence.


I also believe our education system needs reform. Focus on teaching kids to think critically instead of teaching them how to score high on a standardized test. Schools could also incorporate therapy in the classroom. Let middle school and high school students have a class that focuses on therapy, emotional well being, and self esteem. 
 

More community institutions besides church that brings diverse groups together.  Lessen racial tensions.
 

Homogenous communities and diverse communities should have programs where 8th graders get a chance to attend a semester of school in each others schools. Like studying abroad, but instead of leaving the country, just going from rural school life to urban school life. Expose them to realities other than their own. 
 

Integrate psychology, sociology, and statistics in every history class, science class, and literature class. 

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We need more activism and advocacy to bring in social support toward injustices. 

Bringing people to Stage Green consciousness. 

And put sociopaths into prisons and lock them out. 

Sociopaths are mainly responsible for creating stage Red societies. 

 

That's why the West has done so much better. They have an impressive record of putting sociopaths in prisons. 

But somehow Trump was allowed. Because there's still a lot of Red in American society that needs to weeded out. 

I hope he never wins this election. But if he does, it would be appalling. 

 


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@Husseinisdoingfine The US violent crime rate is at a historical low right now, so I would gently suggest that we have bigger fish to fry than "Gangs, prisons, high school kids fighting eachothe". What violence does remain might well be remediable through sensible gun control 9_9

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