So its all over when you turn 30?!?!

[RawJudah]

1 minute ago, Espaim said:

How do you know if Leo isn't bullshiting you?

I don't know but I won't assume everything he says is true or even accurate...

He could be. He could be bullshitting everyone about being spiritual and that really he's a businessman  But hey! We'll never know...

I just wanna know if there really is a shut-off date for life at age 30. 

 

[Member]

5 hours ago, RawJudah said:

HAVE I REALLY ONLY GOT 4 YEARS LEFT TO FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT, AND THEN ITS ALL OVER? NO MORE GROWING FOR ME?

This grandma doesn't fret about aging, so why should you?

 

[Eva]

I get where you're getting at with this! And I've noticed the same. I think in some things you benefit from being under 30, but some things are not even achievable at a young age. In some things you need so-called crystallized intelligence and/or life-experience to achieve them. You're exactly where you need to be in your life right now. No worries, man! 

 

EDIT: typos

Edited June 14, 2020 by Eva

[Espaim]

20 minutes ago, RawJudah said:

He could be

Good!

Now we're talking 

20 minutes ago, RawJudah said:

I just wanna know if there really is a shut-off date for life at age 30. 

If there is, are you going to give up what you want to actualize in your life?

There isn't a set-in-stone limit as a rule of the universe encoded in the DNA by evolution or aliens of human males that shuts their ability of actualizing their potential when they turn 30.

What people are generally meaning when they say this is just what you said: it becomes harder. The body isn't infinite (pls give me some semantics room here), as the cells have a limited number of times that they can replicate before the DNA becomes damaged an so and so. As you become older your brain isn't as plastic as it were when you were younger but it is still plastic. You can still set up your mind to be successful after 30 even if you lived a life of laziness and bad habits. The problem is that you already set your life to be shitty, and that's going to take a lot of work to reverse. Both internal work and external work. You'll have to deconstruct the bad habits AND install the successful habits. That's way more work if you already did that when you were young. Still, it's not impossible, and there are tools, techniques and mindsets you can apply to solve your problems.

Edited June 14, 2020 by Espaim

[Seeker_87]

7 minutes ago, Espaim said:

There isn't a set-in-stone limit as a rule of the universe encoded in the DNA by evolution or aliens of human males that shuts their ability of actualizing their potential when they turn 30.

Why are men seemingly always obsessing “reaching their peak” or “actualizing their potential” before a certain age? Life doesn’t circle around you and you obsessions, you know ;)? Sometimes it takes a longer time than being in your twenties or thirties before you find your  “thing”. And even then, life is a cyclical thing. You are doing one thing for one time, then another time you do something else. People study, then get their first ‘real’ jobs, get married, get laid ofF or fired,  get divorced or a spouse dies. Life is a constant change. Learn to work with life (instead of trying to control it), learn patience, cultivate humor and an ability to handle uncertainty and then you are able thrive in any external circumstances.

Learning that message took me a decade and I am much happier now than ever in my twenties. I have had many ‘peaks’ and many valleys in my journey but learning to adapt to circumstances and finding spirituality has made me happier in both times.

Leo made excellent Video on topic, helped me a lot a while ago. Hopefully it does same to you 

 

[michellew]

Well, I speak from the dizzying heights of 52 and 11/12ths.  What can I add, being that I'm already practically dead  

 

You do need to make the most of being under 30 - there's a reason for the phrase 'youth is wasted on the young' - you're at a time in your life when your energy levels are easy to boost, it's easy to get physically fit and stay that way, and it you set in place good habits, they'll see you in good stead for the rest of whatever life you have, not to mention giving you a good chance of a healthy and long life - and yet instead of doing that, it's a cultural necessity to live like bleedin' idiots and waste all that fabulous yoof and energy filling our bodies full of junk food and alcohol, avoiding exercise like it was medicine (well I guess it is really) and generally behaving like our bodies will last regardless of the abuse we give it and those brain cells will always be in easy reach, just like they are now. 

 

Now - will your ability to grow cease the minute you turn 30?  I can truthfully say I didn't even start to grow, think or improve myself until the last 7 years, a tad past this arbitrary 30 milestone.  I had always considered myself a thinker, that I knew what life was about, but I didn't even start living it until I was heading towards my half century at a rate of knots.  Do I wish I'd woken up earlier?  Hell yes - but the experiences I've had to go through to get to this point happened when they happened, I'm not sure if anything could have made things different.  What advice would I give my younger self?  Start questioning everything now.  

 

The truth is, the only time it's too late for personal growth is when you've taken your last breath.  Physically however, you'll greatly improve your capacity by looking after yourself well now.  

[Son of leo]

Can anyone point me to video links where leo talked about age 30???? Please

[allislove]

57 minutes ago, Member said:

This grandma doesn't fret about aging, so why should you?

 

Lol nice 

[UDT]

2 hours ago, supremeyingyang said:

@UDT

I think you wrote that Piece to yourself.

Nah I don´t believe in time. I wanted to go Dan Pena for a little

[intotheblack]

@Son of leo  "life advice for young people"

[nistake]

5 hours ago, dimitri said:

LET IT GO, MAN

I am 30. I am in the best physical shape ever. "Spiritual growth" went exponentially from 28-29 till now.
If somebody tells me that life can be so amazing few years ago, perhaps, I wouldn't believe.
Don't blindly listen Leo or anyone else, listen only your intuition.
You can create whatever you want.

You create your own reality. 

This!

[RawJudah]

45 minutes ago, Espaim said:

What people are generally meaning when they say this is just what you said: it becomes harder. The body isn't infinite (pls give me some semantics room here), as the cells have a limited number of times that they can replicate before the DNA becomes damaged an so and so. As you become older your brain isn't as plastic as it were when you were younger but it is still plastic. You can still set up your mind to be successful after 30 even if you lived a life of laziness and bad habits. The problem is that you already set your life to be shitty, and that's going to take a lot of work to reverse. Both internal work and external work. You'll have to deconstruct the bad habits AND install the successful habits. That's way more work if you already did that when you were young. Still, it's not impossible, and there are tools, techniques and mindsets you can apply to solve your problems.

Awesome. You have put it perfectly. I'm not in bad shape physically and mentally, although I have partied quite hard in the past, and I have no regrets of doing so, as the social aspect was incredible. 

I feel like there is more to be done, and I will do so. Purchasing the life purpose course and following that will hopefully ground me with a direction of where to go. However, I don't think everyone can have a life purpose and be free from the rat race. This takes a huge amount of work and you have to know how your life is going to go at a very young age. Something I wasn't gifted with... 

As I'm typing this, I'm thinking to myself - How the fuck can I really complain??? Some people have it a LOT worse than me...

[Son of leo]

@intotheblack thanks bruh

[Espaim]

@RawJudah 

 

[Identity]

It’s about balance and nuance in perspective here. 
A statement like “you need to have your shit together before 30” can be useful for those who need a kick in the butt.

For others who are at the other side of the balance, towards already feeling pressure, it can become counter productive and a limiting belief.

Creating is about having the right amount of tension. Just like shooting an arrow, you need tension in your bow, but thinking you need to pull that sucker until your fingers bleed is counter productive.

Think about the flow in your life right now. Not about where you are, but about the momentum you are building daily. Is adding more tension beneficial or counter-productive?

[PetarKa]

That statement to me is simply stupid.

First, it creates so much pressure on yourself that often it only worsens the situation.

Second, why are you pressuring yourself to reach some "ultimate destination" by some arbitrary deadline.

The only question you could ask yourself is "Given my situation and abilities, how do I want to spend the years that remain?"

[allislove]

58 minutes ago, Espaim said:

@RawJudah 

 

this ^^

[Yarco]

I'm 32 and still feel like I have until 40 before I'll be "too old" to start a business or do other major life accomplishments.

Really I think having kids are when it's "all over", whether you have them at 20, 25, 30, 35. So much of your life will become about meeting their needs once you have kids, and you'll only have a few hours in the evening after they go to bed to do your own thing, is the impression that I get.

Being over 30 has its pros and cons. My body is more achy and inflexible each year. But proper diet and exercise has helped mostly reverse that for me recently. Within the past year or so, my sex drive has noticeably gone down. That might seem like a bad thing, but actually it's a lot less time spent obsessing about sex and porn. Not like I can't get it up, I just don't have the desire any more. In some ways it's nice not to be a slave to it as much, more time to focus on business, exercise, hobbies, etc.

At the end of the day... there's no use worrying about the years you've wasted so far. You'll never get those back. All you can do is make the most of the years you've got left. 

[Epikur]

I think it is not always bad to accept that one is more an observer than part of the party. Some can live the lifestyle of work hard party hard or live fast and die young. 

Others might be reconciled with the idea of being a sisyphus. After accepting it it might work out for some. At least it might change the perspective from so many superficial things.

Sometimes rich and good looking people have problems with creating a persona behind the superficial. That might be hard to deal with.

What seems to be over after 30 or 40 is the big pressure to fulfill the biological imperative. It's nice to surf or float without needing a goal.





 

[smurf88]

8 hours ago, RawJudah said:

I just wanna know if there really is a shut-off date for life at age 30.

If you take good care of your body, meaning exercise, meditation, a healthy diet, and maybe some adaptogens, then there is no shut-off at 30. Depending on how seriously you take this, you can still feel like you're 20 when you reach 30.