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Racial Economic Inequality

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https://inequality.org/facts/racial-inequality/

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/2018/demo/p60-263/figure1.pdf

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2019/10/income-and-wealth-in-the-united-states-an-overview-of-data

Why do you think that the median household income in the USA is(2018 latest data); White=$69k vs Black $41k

I think we need to make a resolution to make those numbers equal.  Maybe it takes 20 years, but at least have a plan.  

Does it not matter to you -(most on here are white)?

What can be done?  Its a big part of what is happening right now, its not just about the George Floyd incident.

 

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@SerpaeTetra

Make those numbers equal?

How?

And why equal?

Also here’s the wiki page to household mean incomes divided by race

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indian American: $105,000

Taiwanese American: $90,221

Filipino American: $84,620

Pakistani American: $80,389

Singaporean American: $79,852

Iranian American: $78,005

Japanese American: $77,504

Malaysian American: $72,827

Lebanese American: $75,337

Chinese American: $74,764

Sri Lankan American: $73,856

Indonesian American: $71,616

White American: $68,145

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@IJB063

Invest in infrastructure of black and lower income communities.

Invest in their education. 

Improve their access to healthcare(including mental health).

Reform the prison system. 

 

Equal outcome isn't really tangible, but there needs to be an effort for equal opportunity. 

 

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@louhad

7 minutes ago, louhad said:

Invest in infrastructure of black and lower income communities.

Invest in their education. 

Improve their access to healthcare(including mental health).

Reform the prison system. 

I agree 100%, but bureaucracy needs to be removed in order to achieve this

8 minutes ago, louhad said:

Equal outcome isn't really tangible, but there needs to be an effort for equal opportunity. 

 

Amen brother, that’s what I was pointing to

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@IJB063

Bureaucracy needs to be reformed to be more efficient. It needs to be reformed to serve the people rather than serving corporate donors. 

We need to start to hold law makers to be more accountable to use our tax payer money for productive things rather than things like endless wars and fossil fuel subsidies.  

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Wealth is purely comparative. We can look at statistics and consider numbers but emotionally, we compare ourselves very differently. Within your community and friend circles you'll define how you and everyone else is doing compared with everyone else you know in that circle. Very few people strive to be, do or have something they've never actually really intimately known someone in their experience to be, do or have. That's why in a city it's really easy to get caught up in a rat race, but also easy to stay driven. In a rural area or in a strong community or family structure it's very easy to be content and stress free but difficult to imagine the kind of success and dreams that are possible to actualize in the world. 


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@louhad

17 minutes ago, louhad said:

Bureaucracy needs to be reformed to be more efficient. It needs to be reformed to serve the people rather than serving corporate donors. 

Good luck reforming a bureaucracy, by its nature it’s immune to change, its better to tear it down and start anew

But what ever serves the interest of humanity is what needs to be done, I don’t care how it’s done

17 minutes ago, louhad said:

We need to start to hold law makers to be more accountable to use our tax payer money for productive things rather than things like endless wars and fossil fuel subsidies.  

How are you going to do that?

The masses hold power, only in terms of collective bargaining, and as all of history shows the masses are easily manipulated

And the media machine and the bureaucracy inherent in the system will make it impossible to hold these people accountable, especially through reformation 

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@IJB063 Stage Green. We will see more and more within the next century. The fact that someone like Sanders, who essentially was campaigning on those kinds of reforms, was able to have so much traction makes it pretty clear it is only a matter of time. 

Right now, the establishment is resisting it, but they are swimming against the current. 

All systems have inertia, but systems are also constantly changing. 

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@louhad

14 minutes ago, louhad said:

@IJB063 Stage Green. We will see more and more within the next century. The fact that someone like Sanders, who essentially was campaigning on those kinds of reforms, was able to have so much traction makes it pretty clear it is only a matter of time. 

Right now, the establishment is resisting it, but they are swimming against the current. 

All systems have inertia, but systems are also constantly changing. 

Hopefully you’re right, I just tend to be more cynical and pessimistic than the average person

Ill guess we’ll see

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On 31/05/2020 at 3:57 AM, SerpaeTetra said:

https://inequality.org/facts/racial-inequality/

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/2018/demo/p60-263/figure1.pdf

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2019/10/income-and-wealth-in-the-united-states-an-overview-of-data

Why do you think that the median household income in the USA is(2018 latest data); White=$69k vs Black $41k

I think we need to make a resolution to make those numbers equal.  Maybe it takes 20 years, but at least have a plan.  

Does it not matter to you -(most on here are white)?

What can be done?  Its a big part of what is happening right now, its not just about the George Floyd incident.

 

No. No we dont not. The individual needs to step up. A good start is less freebies. More fathers in the household. How about major in STEM?

The nonsense of equal value for equal work. The solution people push always is parasitic. Give me. Wants hand outs. 

A example of cherry picking data is the race baiting. Interestingly enough, you didn't include ASIANS who do better then EVERYONE! 

Asian culture values education in STEM, strong family values, and shocking, FATHER IN THE HOUSEHOLD. 

Japan had two god damn atom bombs dropped on the country. How is Japanese doing today? More government programs isn't the solution nor is handouts. 

The individual needs to step up. This is beyond race or gender. Its applicable to anybody. There's celebrities applauding riots and stealing TVs. 

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5 hours ago, IJB063 said:

@SerpaeTetra

Make those numbers equal?

How?

And why equal?

Also here’s the wiki page to household mean incomes divided by race

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indian American: $105,000

Taiwanese American: $90,221

Filipino American: $84,620

Pakistani American: $80,389

Singaporean American: $79,852

Iranian American: $78,005

Japanese American: $77,504

Malaysian American: $72,827

Lebanese American: $75,337

Chinese American: $74,764

Sri Lankan American: $73,856

Indonesian American: $71,616

White American: $68,145

Those have higher incomes because the US allows a high number of highly skilled workers to come over from other countries.  Poor people have a much harder time transplanting to the US from those countries.  

Black people were born/brought into a white world and their families started with $0 wealth many generations ago.  Wealth=power and they never caught up.  

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