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Losing Virginity To A Hooker/escort

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@dboyle The first time will lead a long lasting impression, my first time makes me sick...I can't imagine what a prostitute would do to your minds state

I think you would feel better if you had sex with someone that means something to you

Another point is, if that condom breaks, and you're in someone who has a job of doing guys..well... you might be in trouble if your cock touches those vagina walls.

Just pretend it happened, you did it... now how do you feel about yourself?

once again.. I do not recommend it 

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On 6/15/2016 at 5:42 PM, dboyle said:

What are people's opinion on this?

I am currently a 21 year old male, who has never ever even kissed a girl let alone became close enough to actually have sex with one.  

At this point, all I want to do is just lose my virginity to someone, as I don't think I am quite ready for a girlfriend yet as I am currently just trying to focus on myself and my own life and goals. 

But I would like to experience what sex is like, and can't see myself having sex with a girl I know (as I don't know any girls that would ever have sex with me), and I don't have the skills currently to go out and pickup girls.

So yeah... do you think I should go through with it and just get an escort for the night and fulfil this part of me?

Actually, I kind of support this idea.  As long as you can do it safely and the girl is cool and nice as to be positive to your self-esteem.  It will show you that sex isn't that big of a deal and you will stop thinking about it as much as you currently do.  You will not stop thinking about it though lol.  But, ironically sex will come much easier after you don't care as much about it.  Just don't get addicted to hookers, dawg. 

Don't listen to all these goody two shoe, flacid weenars in here.  Just do it, trust me, mang.  I never give bad advice. 

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I was in a similar position as you, virgin shame and all that stupid fucking useless shit including all the shit feelings. Getting a hooker/escort is a garbage solution to fixing this, in fact it will worsen you're feelings of shame and self worth. Look, I no you feel like shit, I know you feel like you are worthless, but you've got to push through all that fucking trash and just go out and get laid, period. I posted the same question on RSD forum, Julien made a video titled "How not to die a virgin" as he probably saw the thread, beautiful man he is, but this virginity crap comes up once in a while and feelings of self-worth and whatnot. Just go get laid, fuck all of this "Feel good" advice. Just do it, go

Once you accomplish the goal, you will feel like a freaking god. I know how you think, I know how it is I've been there. Just go out and approach. You're feelings will go away, you will amazing experiences and fun stories to tell your friends, and you will feel like a badass man. Fuck the hookers, I had a fear of dying as a virgin, I searched up "40-year old virgins" on a reddit thread feeding the fear, it worsened. I then linked RSD to all of the virgins and they started showing up in the threads, I saved them all. They had profile pics and usernames like "Pathetic Virgin Loser" I then searched virgins up on youtube, and saw a lot. Then I realized "wtf RSD exists". Don't become a "good guy" either, Leo is a chode when it comes to that. Guys who have no experience need to be super playerish not to be brainwashed with "You narcissistic, selfish fuck" crap, that's aimed for hardcore pickup artists, and only a sect of the sample size to be exact. The only reason Leo talks as a white knight all high and mighty and such is that he has had all the sexual experiences in his life and therefore has no compulsions or feelings attached to articulating about sex. If he had some kind of troubles, I guarantee he would never have made the pua rant video, hell if he didn't figure out about pickup he would've been completely crushed. Shit fucks you up man. Oh yeah, post this in www.rsdnation.com they'll fix you're woes. Lol, thinking back I would be a loser without RSD, so would Leo and everybody else who came to them, guys who don't even know what life purpose is, who hate their jobs which takes up the majority of their life, so they hate their lives; And then comes along RSD to save them. Tyler even made a course on how to start a business and make money, after reading all the threads on how broke we all are. He really is an angel.

 

Bro, I would do it with you, we can get all dem bishes as bodybuilidng misc forums would reiterate, most people here are yuppies. Learn how attraction works, otherwise you will be broke with no sex used like a tool. Have abundance with woman, have 5 girls on speed-dial if one breaks up so you come from a place of power. Also release the need to put your self worth on the pussy, it makes you weak and gives woman power over you, never come from a place of weakness, only from one of strength.

 

End all be all, fuck the woman they ain't shit, fuck being desperate.

Also lots of people in similar problems that got out just fine, one of my friend said he only lifts for girls , fucking pathetic you lift for yourself not girls. You shouldn't be chasing woman either, they should be chasing you. Always, always always come from a place of strength, the world is your oyster and you can whatever woman you want. That's how I think, and because of it, I take my pick of what woman I want. I Ignore woman also which drives them insane, I love it. You're either in the a position of power or weakness in the dating game. Think like a general. Girls screen as hard if not harder than guys, take advantage of every opportunity you get, come from a place of abundace not scarcity

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You may not be aware of this social pattern, but prostitutes are often forced into prostitution because of poverty, life circumstances, drug addiction, or even being directly forced into it through pimps who control them and their livelihood through the threat of violence. So, the life of a prostitute is often a very miserable one. I think many of the men who visit prostitutes aren't aware of the fact that many of the women (and men) are some of the most vulnerable individuals who are being exploited, and that they're contributing to that exploitation. So, I personally wouldn't do this because I think it would make you feel yucky in the long run. Since your self-esteem is already rocky, I wouldn't put myself if that situation.

Leo did a video "Fake Growth v. Real Growth." This would be fake growth. I recommend first trying to hook up with a woman at a club who doesn't go to school with you. You don't even have to tell her that you're a virgin if you don't want to. Learn some pick up techniques, and try them out. Get over your shyness. That's the only reason why you haven't done it yet. I can almost guarantee you it's not your looks, your personality, or anything about your worth as an individual. It's just fear of rejection and low self-esteem... assuming that no woman would want you.

So, it's a matter of approaching and being willing to be rejected. You'll eventually, and probably in short order, find someone who's interested in hooking up with you. You assume that none of the women that you know are interested in you. But be careful with this assumption. Women are discouraged from approaching and do their best not to let on that they're attracted to the guy they're attracted to. If you show no interest, they're unlikely to show you interest first. So, try casually flirting with one of your female friends first to see what her response is. If her response is positive, flirt a little more. If she matches your flirtiness, flirt a little more. If she steps back, you step back. But this would probably be a better recommendation for establishing a relationship and not just hooking up.

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Bro, are you that lazy? You are not social? Wdf??? At this age, you should not be doing hookers. You have no game, don't want to learn and..."oh i just want to gain experience"...ths is simply a cop out and a focking excuse...boy...your life is going down hill from here...the hooker is going to take your money and laugh at you... and say, "Thank you".  You can de-virginized by telling girl "you have a lot of experience" in fact you have no experience. In fact that is How I got Her in to Bed for my 1st sexual experience. No joke. Just go on Youtube there are thousands of videos...just learn and practice, bro. Don't be FOCKING lazy and gave your virginity away to a hooker that could only laugh at your virginity. cus it's WORTH ZERO because you have NO GAME. Just Youtube search "How to get girl in bed". Hello?  

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@flhugoboss I be fucking hoes in Pattaya every 2nd weekend and haven't had sex where I haven't payed. Anything wrong with me. Not that I can see. Everything okay. Game is for people who don't have money to pay for hoes. They need to always try to get it for free.

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On 9/2/2016 at 4:19 AM, Psychonaut said:

@flhugoboss I be fucking hoes in Pattaya every 2nd weekend and haven't had sex where I haven't payed. Anything wrong with me. Not that I can see. Everything okay. Game is for people who don't have money to pay for hoes. They need to always try to get it for free.

First of all Pattaya is at the lower level of the sex-consumption-food chain, if you want to go then go to Angel Island (real island just Google it or read the travel post), instead. You will have less chance of catching AIDS. 2nd, you got money? He who claims has money, in real time has no money. You don't have money, if you do, they all will be chipped away by your hooker-addiction, regardless how much you have. Everything is wrong with you that I can see. That is why you are here and you are about to end as it is stated... "With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; ...Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life." - Proverb 7:21-23

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Virginity Doesn't Exist, it's just a social costruct!!

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/virginity-why-it-doesnt-exist

"For many young people, virginity is a hot topic. Boys are pressured to lose it as soon as possible, while girls are expected in many communities to stay “pure." But, what is virginity, exactly? Many define it as the first time someone has penetrative (or ‘P in V’) sex. But what if the individual is a lesbian? Does she remain a virgin her whole life? Should virginity even matter?"

"Your virginity or lack thereof does not define your worth in any way, shape, or form. If it’s important to you, more power to you! I respect that. But if it’s not something that especially matters to you, it really shouldn’t have to matter at all."

http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-theriault/2014/04/virginity-is-a-social-construct/

"Virginity is not a thing. Not really. It is a social construct meant to make people, especially women, feel badly about their sexuality and sexual experience. It is a way of policing other people’s bodies and passing judgment on how they use them. It is, at its very core, a way of controlling and subjugating women."

"Why is virginity so damn important to us? We don’t have nouns for who or what we were before we hit any other life milestones – there’s no term to refer to a person before they can walk or talk or read and write – all of which I would argue are more important achievements than getting laid – and yet it’s the sex that we focus on. Why do we put so much more weight on this one small facet of human life than we do on any of the others? Why are we still making a big deal out of who is a virgin and who isn’t?"

 

 

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I don't think you should overthink that. Sex is just sex and it takes a long time before it gets really good. For most people it never gets real good and just stays below average. So don't expect sparks and rainbows (imho). 

But keep in mind that you will always remember your first time. If you want to remember your first time by that experience, go for it. 

At lest remembering the first is true for most women like me. 

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@dboyle Man... If you are REALLY desperate for having sex, go for it. My first was horrible because I didn't like the girl, so choose wisely.

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HI @dboyle,

If anyone should be leaving you a comment about this, it should be me.  I am an RETIRED ex adult entertainer that has worked in the field for 7 years and part of the time I was an Escort.  I will not be answering or responding to inappropriate comments.

I have been following this thread for the last few months.  I was hesitant to leave a comment, out of fear and protection of my identity, but I've decided to grow a set of iron clad balls and write you this message on my opinion of this matter.  BECAUSE I really do care.  And if I had to do it all over again, I would have never done escorting.  It is dangerous and emotional damaging to both parties.

It really breaks my heart when I hear about things like this.  That people feel that they are inadequate and that to fit in they have to do things out of the norm.... whether it be sex, relationships, or anything else.

Before I went into the adult entertainment industry, I lost my virginity to my Bf I was seeing in college.  I was 21 years old.  We ended up dating for 4 years, and we broke up.   And we had sex on our one year anniversary.  When I look back at everything....and giving advice to someone else, I would have waited longer. You don't need to impress anyone, and I wouldn't care if the guy was a virgin and never had sex before.  Sex is a skill you acquire with time and getting to know the person you are intimate with in a long term relationship.  Sex will come naturally to you. What's important right now is your character, being emotional engaging, being confident, being humorous, and most of all being your best self.  That's what the RIGHT WOMAN would want from you and what you rightfully deserve.  And that is what I would want from any man that I'm dating as an ex adult entertainer.   Plus another thing,  Sex is like an addiction.... like fapping lol  Once you have it you don't want to stop, but in all reality the best person to have sex with is someone you care about, not an escort, and let me explain to you why.

Escorts are professional ACTRESSES!  That will tell you anything you want to hear.  You are hot, you are so sexy, oh that turns me on...yes they will lie their asses off. They FAKE orgasms!  Trust me...I know...I was one of them.  I FOOLED them every time. And they will try to spend the LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME with you if possible so they can see the next client.  This will not be an intimate experience that you will be looking for.  Not to scare you, but I have met men that regretted having their first sexual experience with an escort and had to seek therapy because of it. It makes them feel like a lesser person...like they didn't deserve to have sex with someone that loved and cared for them.    Which is absolutely NOT TRUE. Having sex with someone you care about and an escort are two VERY different experiences.   

I also worked in other parts of the adult entertainment field including webcam and as a stripper(the proper name is dancer, if you worked in a high end gentleman's club, like I did).  I see the same thing all the time.  And I'm sorry to say this, but the MAJORITY of men that seek adult entertainment venues or services usually have relationship issues of some sort....unless they're coming in for that one time for a bachelor party.   Trust me on this when I say this....I've talked to a lot of men of all ages, and all backgrounds, you hear the same stories, same circumstances.  I was one of the rare ladies that actually cared and played sex therapist with my clients.  I generally care  about other people and their well being no matter who they are. Going to an escort or venturing into adult entertainment will not leave you satisfied with being good enough in sex, feeling adequate as a man, or give you experience in relationships.  Instead it becomes a very expensive spending addiction which gives men this incredibly screwed up view on relationships and unrealistic expectations of women.

I only want the best for you. And even if you had to wait longer to have sex, the right woman wouldn't care.  The HEART, the SOUL, the INNER YOU, is what matters most. 

Sending much LOVE and PEACE to you.  I know and trust that you will make the right decision. :)

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 Just FYI there is a HUGE difference between an ESCORT and a HOOKER if you don't know.

HOOKER- you usually find on a street corner, for example: usually a $50 bj

ESCORTS- work for agencies, some are self employed.  Their are high end and low end agencies.  Usually requires the client to have a background check when they call the agency before you can even see the escort.  And not all escorts are for sex, a lot of them go on actual dates and RECEIVE DONATIONS.  (It is not considered paid money because of legalities).

 

On 6/15/2016 at 6:42 PM, dboyle said:

What are people's opinion on this?

I am currently a 21 year old male, who has never ever even kissed a girl let alone became close enough to actually have sex with one.  

At this point, all I want to do is just lose my virginity to someone, as I don't think I am quite ready for a girlfriend yet as I am currently just trying to focus on myself and my own life and goals. 

But I would like to experience what sex is like, and can't see myself having sex with a girl I know (as I don't know any girls that would ever have sex with me), and I don't have the skills currently to go out and pickup girls.

So yeah... do you think I should go through with it and just get an escort for the night and fulfil this part of me?

 

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Im going with my initial thought. Awesome. Go for it. If you want to do it. Then do it. That what i think.

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@dboyle Dude, I feel your pain.

 

I came across this thread a while back but decided not to post anything then. I was 21, a virgin just like you, and guess what ? I lost it to a prostitute.

It didn't make me feel better, in fact......for a week or so after I had the worst anxiety of my life. I was a bit drunk and I couldn't finish in time which made me think I had something very wrong with me. Started researching the problem which only made it worse. 

My advice, if you haven't done it already. Don't do it. Simple as. I'm no better for it. Possibly worse I don't know, but if I was in your shoes I'd listen to the people on here who are against the idea and give it a miss. Trust me.

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On 02/09/2016 at 1:19 PM, Psychonaut said:

@flhugoboss I be fucking hoes in Pattaya every 2nd weekend and haven't had sex where I haven't payed. Anything wrong with me. Not that I can see. Everything okay. Game is for people who don't have money to pay for hoes. They need to always try to get it for free.

There is this one thing called natural selection - if you're not fucking anyone you're not supposed to. So if you have to pay and you can't do it normally well your genes don't deserve to spread further :) If you feel like you cheated the system in reality you have only cheated yourself !

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Being a failure in society's eyes is a beautiful opportunity to learn self love :)

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just do it. observe yourself. verify if your suffering will go away. verify if your suffering will grow. have your direct experiences because these are the only ones that bring you true wisdom.

don't ask anybody how to live your life. just do everything consciously and observe the consequences.


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Sex is over rated. The older you get the more you realise it. I actually find it quite repulsive a lot of the time.


Wisdom is settling in and experiencing reality in the moment.

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On 14 June 2016 at 9:16 AM, Corte said:

No, because I don't think this will solve your problem. Like at all. Ask yourself, and be honest with yourself, why do you want to lose your virginity? Because you don't feel like a man since you're 21 and never touched a woman? A virgin at 21 is not a failure, but a treasure. You said you are only focusing on yourself and your goals. Saving yourself for the right time will fulfill you way more than having a night with an escort, just my opinion. 

In what way is it a treasure? This sounds like a Christian view. It's neither a failure or a treasure. It just is what it is. One day you haven't had sex and so your super curious to find out what all the fuss is. The next you realise its way over rated and it's just another drug people are using to distract themselves. 


Wisdom is settling in and experiencing reality in the moment.

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Everything is 0 so everything else you do is a bonus. We are here to experience, when its all over the only important thing that will matter is if you lived as wholly and fully as you possibly could. Go with the flow, live through the heart and don't worry :)


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