External reality

[Nate0068]

So lets say for example im house sitting for someone while there out somewhere lets just say i decided to put a pizza in the oven and leave and go home if im at my house and thats the only thing that exists how come ill most likely get a phone call from them freaking out that i left the oven on doesn't that mean there's a external reality out there? 

[Forestluv]

1 hour ago, Nate0068 said:

So lets say for example im house sitting for someone while there out somewhere lets just say i decided to put a pizza in the oven and leave and go home if im at my house and thats the only thing that exists how come ill most likely get a phone call from them freaking out that i left the oven on doesn't that mean there's a external reality out there? 

External relative to what? What is internal reality? And how do we determine what is external reality and what is internal reality?

[Inliytened1]

@Nate0068 you can get a phone call in your dreams can't you?

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Nate0068 said:

how come ill most likely get a phone call from them freaking out that i left the oven on doesn't that mean there's a external reality out there?

How on Earth can you reach such a conclusion from that set of facts?

When you hear a phone call, you hear a phone call. That is it. It has no more meaning than that. The rest is your interpretation, imagination, and projection.

"A phone call about a pizza means there must be a pizza somewhere and therefore an external reality" << This is your projection.

What's real is PRECISELY what appears. If you don't see a pizza, it isn't. If you imagine there is a pizza, that's exactly what's true: you imagining a pizza. If you think there's an external reality, that's exactly what's true: you are thinking there's an external reality. But notice, thinking there is an external reality does not mean there is an external reality.

Everything is exactly what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

[peanutspathtotruth]

56 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Everything is exactly what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

So clear and simple, all one really needs. The mind is funny, always making one move too much.

[montecristo]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

How on Earth can you reach such a conclusion from that set of facts?

When you hear a phone call, you hear a phone call. That is it. It has no more meaning than that. The rest is your interpretation, imagination, and projection.

"A phone call about a pizza means there must be a pizza somewhere and therefore an external reality" << This is your projection.

What's real is PRECISELY what appears. If you don't see a pizza, it isn't. If you imagine there is a pizza, that's exactly what's true: you imagining a pizza. If you think there's an external reality, that's exactly what's true: you are thinking there's an external reality. But notice, thinking there is an external reality does not mean there is an external reality.

Everything is exactly what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.

I had this same insight powerfully the other day after smoking some weed, glad I get to see it articulated so well here by Leo.

I think it comes down to honesty and paying attention to what is actually occuring within your experience.

This thought about a pizza is a useful human faculty nonetheless.

[arlin]

"this", is it. 

It is not the effect of something else, that is what the mind imagines.

Effect and cause are a duality. 

[Nahm]

@Nate0068 What if you’re a holodeck and forgot who you are? 

“I’m not a holodeck, I’m a person.”

How do you know that?

”I learned it.”

Where’d ya learn that?

”...the holodeck...?”

[zeroISinfinity]

What if you are Infinite Conciousness and can be whatever you.... But in Truest sense What appears is always One Nothing and you are it. 

 

[remember]

6 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

What if you are Infinite Conciousness and can be whatever you.... But in Truest sense What appears is always One Nothing and you are it. 

 

in the truest sense you are what you ate...