Danioover9000

Is pornography beneficial?

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10 hours ago, ValiantSalvatore said:

I don't know many benefits I looked for sometime into this not extremely deep, but deep enough for me now.

Most of the time it's similar to it will spark up your sex life.
You can watch it with your partner and speak about your preferences.
Or finding out what one likes as general fetish or smth. and to explore that option.

Otherwise I mostly read negative stuff. I also listend to a coach and tried nofap a dozen of times. 

I currently see it a bit similar as to smoking. Also, since one person I like from integral life says that healthy couples mostly function without porn, I want to get to that point, even if it is not that easy.

I am definitely not free, but not very much attached also. 

This site is good to read about the negatives also with scientific papers cited. 
https://fightthenewdrug.org/how-porn-changes-the-brain/

I don't not find much positive information besides that it helps to explore ones desires. 
https://metro.co.uk/2015/11/24/6-reasons-why-your-porn-habit-might-actually-be-good-for-you-5522338/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5603964/ or here as a leisure activity even with some small negative effects ( I did not read the whole thing)

Also, this will lead ultimately to what are the benefits of masturbating which there are numerous ones. For e.g prevent prostate cancer or relieve stress etc. 

Most likely masturbating without porn or just having an active sex life is healthier. I assume. 




 

   Thank you for taking the time to share what you learned about pornography.

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   To reiterate: the purpose of this thread is to discuss benefits of Pornography for understanding sexuality which the sub forum rarely discusses in the positive. Kew word here is DISCUSS, not argue. Have you forgotten Leo's thought on arguments? I at least expect careful thought in what is posted here in this thread, not ideological dogmatic bullshit that isn't related to the topic at all.

   I understand that Pornography could emotionally trigger people here and it is commonly known how negative Pornography is.

   What is'nt well known is positives of pornography which I'm still hoping that this thread helps in. And the fact that Pornography is uncomfortable to discuss is it's usefulness to you in your personal development: you are feeling the discomfort. Do the emotionally difficult thing to do, and that can help you immensely. This saves you from being a victim of close mindedness.

   Here are questions for you to answer not in this thread, but at home by yourself:

   How am I playing the victim in demonizing pornography?

   What bullshit am I avoiding by blaming pornography?

   Why did this thread emotionally trigger me?

   What coping mechanism did pornography serve for me?

   How could I use Pornography to spice up my sex life?

   What do I understand about my sexuality?

   Please contemplate these questions at home for a month or more and use whatever you experienced in the past with Pornography to fuel your growth. Then take action and baby step the process, especially when it comes to having sex with a partner. If you experienced any positive changes post them here. Thank you for reading this and I hope you overcome your victim mindset.

   

   

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5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

What bullshit am I avoiding by blaming pornography?

This is a good question to ask generally.

I see a lot of posts detailing how porn can corrupt but not a lot of posts on trying to address the underlying issues that make one vulnerable to becoming corrupted or otherwise negatively influenced by it. Perhaps if porn is removed, the underlying issue will just present itself in another form?

 

5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

baby step the process

Great quote, I just wrote this down. 

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1 hour ago, Bill W said:

This is a good question to ask generally.

I see a lot of posts detailing how porn can corrupt but not a lot of posts on trying to address the underlying issues that make one vulnerable to becoming corrupted or otherwise negatively influenced by it. Perhaps if porn is removed, the underlying issue will just present itself in another form?

 

Great quote, I just wrote this down. 

Avoiding addiction to dopamine is probably one of the deepest addictions you could overcome since it is the primary mechanism to pleasure based survival. I wouldn't advise just anybody try this though. It would take a really developed mind. Work up. 

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Some old smokers friends

«We all have to die of something right ?»

 

Some girls I inew that had toxic attachment

«love is never easy, we're going to go through this ! (Get beaten the next day)»

 

Some guys addicted to porn/masturbation

«we all have to be addicted to at least ONE thing right ?

If it wasn't with porn, it would be something else !!!»

 

Excuses excuses excuses

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If you want the moon, do not hide from the night
If you want a rose, do not run from the thorns
If you want love, do not hide from yourself

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@Shin Even if you remove addiction to porn and masturbation there is much more work to do. This is bigger than that. It is addiction to all the feel good mechanisms that affect many parts of your life. 

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41 minutes ago, Shadowraix said:

@Shin Even if you remove addiction to porn and masturbation there is much more work to do. This is bigger than that. It is addiction to all the feel good mechanisms that affect many parts of your life. 

Of course.

But not trying that is not gonna do anything, that's for sure.


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If you want a rose, do not run from the thorns
If you want love, do not hide from yourself

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As has been discussed somewhat, some people benefit from porn. Like other most "feel good activities", it needs to be used in moderation and not to the detriment of others.

Of course, if obsessive and otherwise vulnerable people get hold of porn or into masturbation there could be problems. There always will be until they (us) do the inner work. 

People can choose to abstain from porn and masturbation of course.

Porn and masturbation is as nice and as helpful as you make it. Nothing wrong with porn and masturbation. Plenty wrong with the person who misuses these activities and goes astray with them.

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45 minutes ago, Shin said:

If it wasn't with porn, it would be something else !!!

Well this is also a common trap, I notice myself when I'm going through some sort of ego backlash, that I often jump from one thing to another, like binge eating one day, playing video games on another day... I have now understood how much suffering it creates, I have literally started meditating out of pain, because I couldn't handle this „taking a rest from God“ - there is no taking rest from God, that's an impossible thing to do.

Today I went to sit into the forest, it was so wonderful, just feeling this peace of mind without any distractions, listening to birds, watching deers running around... So much better than porn, and I feel like it increases my capacity to love myself and others.

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Posted (edited)

I went through various porn phases. Porn has brought me a tremendous amount of suffering as well as pleasure, authenticity, courage and even friendship. I remember I went through various phases where I demonized porn and deleted it all and blocked all access to it on my computer. I also remember being laissez faire about it where I felt porn was fine and I felt sex positive and like sex work should not be stigmatized or judged and all the complaining is BS. At this stage in my life I have decided to cut out most porn in my life but will still watch some downloaded content I have and movies produced by studios I think have a level of clarity and beauty to them. I no longer use google, reddit, tube sites, file sharing sites or cam sites to watch porn. I really find some of the porn ads as well as the algorithms and porn shared on social media to bring content I find disturbing and I want to take back control over my desires and not be fed stuff I am not interested in. For exploring new things and new desires I'd rather do that in relationships and the bedroom with women I respect and want to share something special with, even if it's just for a couple nights. 

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