so i don't need to use my mind to become enlightened

[Aakash]

i don't have to sit there thinking how interconnected the world is and how things work together, contemplating what are the absolute truth 

instead it was important to learn the basics to understand that meditation and other methods are the only way to get to enlightenment 

not with the use of your mind + the techniques 

its simply a case for doing the techniques for until it occurs without using the mind to wander off

[Shadowraix]

You use the mind to learn to not use the mind. 

[Shin]

You use the techniques until you realize you become the techniques.

There is no such thing as being in a meditative state, it's always the case, except you may not be conscious of it.

[Forestluv]

@Aakash All of those thoughts stories are within what the mind and body seeks. What is Now.

Yet, it’s very easy for the mind and body to become immersed, attached and identified to thought stories. Here, there may be lack of awareness that thought stories are appearing in infinite eternal Now. 

Personally, I find a basic structure of conceptual grounding to be helpful as grounding for the mind and body. The subjective experience of intense groundlessness can be demanding and stressful on the mind and body, Yet the mind has a tendency to seek refuge and stability by immersing itself in concepts and becoming attached and identified. 

[nistake]

This video is a really great example of this

 

 

[Inliytened1]

Try to be in the present moment.

No mind or lack of thought.

Put awareness on awareness.

Use the finger / hand technique while staring at your hand.  Try to visualize it as both a finger by itself but also the whole hand.

But be present.  The present moment IS Infinity.

[Inliytened1]

I would add i would also alternate with self inquiry until you become conscious that you are a concept.  The "you" can never be found no matter how you try unless you identify it with something false such as the body or the brain.

[Truth Addict]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Try to be in the present moment.

LOL. Try not to be if you can.

[Inliytened1]

@Truth Addict

[Shin]

You can be confused about it,
That's what 99.99% of people are "doing".

That's not a joke !

[Inliytened1]

@Shin good point but Truthaddict is all about throwing wrenches.  Get used to it 

Still love ya Truthy

 

[Truth Addict]

33 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Shin good point but Truthaddict is all about throwing wrenches.  Get used to it 

Still love ya Truthy

I'm sorry, but you're not enlightened.

David was right.

I still love you too ❤️

Edited May 19, 2019 by Truth Addict

[zeroISinfinity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHIjuyNdMvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RyjqHE_UkU

All the best Brother 

[Shin]

I should make fun of Truth Addict more often,

It seems to trigger its EGO quite a lot !

?

Edited May 19, 2019 by Shin

[Truth Addict]

21 minutes ago, Shin said:

I should make fun of Truth Addict more often,

It seems to trigger its EGO quite a lot !

?

I don't have an ego 

And you forgot to mention me in the post.

Seriously, it's not my ego as much as your projections.

David was sooooo right, he's actually the wisest one that I have encountered here and in my entire life.

He did see right through me and everyone else, and I was so stupid to not recognise that earlier.

Edited May 19, 2019 by Truth Addict

[DrewNows]

@Truth Addict yes he is a cool cat and like to see him come round again 

might even take a swing at him 

It’s basically taking a swing at futility ?

 

Edited May 19, 2019 by DrewNows

[Truth Addict]

@DrewNows That's egoic suffering 

(not kidding)