To All Struggling Males: Stop Playing Victim!

[Key Elements]

8 minutes ago, SFRL said:

How does that even qualify as a smart answer? 

The joke is on the forum. 

You don't know how to make correlations at all. You are very unaware that Leo is always referring to the absolute (God) in anything, including any relationships. It doesn't even matter if it's a joke. He even made a video on relationships which relates to the absolute. He called it: detachment. 

Because if you become the absolute, it will be just you and you will be detached from yourself. He goes on to explain it in this video on how to apply this in real life.

[NoSelfSelf]

@ajasatya i was asking when you speak to a stranger its easier when you know someone

[Key Elements]

11 hours ago, SFRL said:

Like those Oprah videos you post?

I know which Oprah video you're talking about. This one:

If you listen to the context of the video, it is not about Oprah. It is the same as the Leo's detachment video which I just posted. When the Rev said to "love yourself first," that's what it means.

[Moreira]

23 hours ago, RawJudah said:

@Moreira Does that have anything to do with getting laid?

 

Of course, if you hate your reality and cant do anything to change it you dont have self steem, and you are a embittered person angry with life. Which kind of woman would be attracted to that guy?

And the system enslaves men via marriage and children, why would a man want to be involved in this slavery that will cost tons of money when being single forever you can retire earlier?

Edited May 18, 2019 by Moreira

[RawJudah]

@Moreira Sounds like you've been poisoned by the Red Pill and MGTOW

Don't worry, I've been there, and its a deep depressing hole to go down...

[Moreira]

3 hours ago, RawJudah said:

@Moreira Sounds like you've been poisoned by the Red Pill and MGTOW

Don't worry, I've been there, and its a deep depressing hole to go down...

Its not red pill, its common sense. Why a sane human being with a little bit of love would bring to this world a baby to feed these cruel machine (the system) to be a unhappy slave? I guarantee you that If we were 100 years before with traditional values id be happy to have a wife and 2-3 kids.

[Key Elements]

I notice something here. Two words: paradox & patience. It's a balance between the two. When you say something, such as, for example, if you start a sentence off with, "Ppl who are married are___," be careful how you fill in the blank. It may sound like 'stereotyping.' There are always two sides to the same coin and paradoxes, and you don't know what's going on in others' personal lives. To find out the truth and make it work in your life takes patience.

This goes for anything, not just relationships:

• "Ppl who live in ___ are ___."
• "Ppl who are enlightened are___."
• "Ppl who have children are ___."
• "Ppl who skip the university are ___."
• "Ppl who send their children to the university are ___."
• "Going from startup to entrepreneurship is___."

There are better ways to fill in the blanks. Go closer to the truth; research and find out for real, rather than making it sound like 'stereotyping.' 

[Bill W]

3 hours ago, Key Elements said:

 

There are better ways to fill in the blanks. Go closer to the truth; research and find out for real, rather than making it sound like 'stereotyping.' 

Yes! I also read this as..... be careful when you assume things as this can make an ASS out of U and ME.

[Key Elements]

10 hours ago, Bill W said:

Yes! I also read this as..... be careful when you assume things as this can make an ASS out of U and ME.

Yup. ?

[Leo Gura]

On 5/18/2019 at 4:10 PM, Moreira said:

I guarantee you that If we were 100 years before with traditional values id be happy to have a wife and 2-3 kids.

If it were 100 years ago, you might have been an actual slave and your kids would work 12 shifts in a sweatshop.

Traditional values ain't gonna save you. Things are way fairer now than 100 years ago.

Society keeps getting better and better but people still want to go back to the imaginary rosey past which never was.

[billiesimon]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If it were 100 years ago, you might have been an actual slave and your kids would work 12 shifts in a sweatshop.

Traditional values ain't gonna save you. Things are way fairer now than 100 years ago.

Society keeps getting better and better but people still want to go back to the imaginary rosey past which never was.

Yeah, I keep hearing this BS about "old times" from a lot of people.

"oh, the good old times where we just could work the fields and then come home with no stress and distractions and just sleep."

Yeah.

And dying at age 40 because of your tiring exausting job with no education and life experiences. Right.

[Shin]

23 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

Yeah, I keep hearing this BS about "old times" from a lot of people.

"oh, the good old times where we just could work the fields and then come home with no stress and distractions and just sleep."

Yeah.

And dying at age 40 because of your tiring exausting job with no education and life experiences. Right.

And getting your wife and daughters raped while you watch, then tortured and killed very slowly.

Good times !

[tenta]

36 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

Yeah, I keep hearing this BS about "old times" from a lot of people.

"oh, the good old times where we just could work the fields and then come home with no stress and distractions and just sleep."

Yeah.

And dying at age 40 because of your tiring exausting job with no education and life experiences. Right.

 

That's not what they're saying, they're saying the sexual market was better back then.

[Shin]

5 minutes ago, tenta said:

 

That's not what they're saying, they're saying the sexual market was better back then.

How was it better ?

You basically had one wife for life, and if you wanted another one you had to kill her or being secretive/going to prostitutes.

[Aeris]

On 20/05/2019 at 6:24 PM, Shin said:

How was it better ?

You basically had one wife for life, and if you wanted another one you had to kill her or being secretive/going to prostitutes.

this isn't a good exemple, cause having sex with everyone and everything doesn't fulfill anything, it spread disease and I could find 10 ways to tell why a solid relationship is probably better than a billion of short one.

but in the meantime, not choose your relation and having to be with a woman you didn't choose your whole life > that is indeed a real bs.

pro & cons to everything tho, don't be all blinded by " now is better " and futur can only be.

if all evolution turn to be a nuclear war and everyone dies off, it would mean, all our technology and thinking was a huge trap of bs.

 

is internet good ? yes but in the meantime, everyone is starring a fucking screen and loose connection with the atmospheric field.

will having sex with robots better than fucking whores ? who knows.

 

[LordFall]

 

 

 

On 5/17/2019 at 10:28 PM, Leo Gura said:

If all is one, there are no strangers in the world. Everyone is your brother and sister.

Yes, you'll be banging your sister

But that only deepens the love, Lol.

God has no one to fuck but itself! #strangeloop

Honestly, definitely. Sounds weird to say but doesn't it make it much better than women are not these alien creatures that you seduce with but feminine parts of yourself that you lost and reconnect with romantically and sexually? The more conscious I get the more I enjoy sex. Leo brother, please make some sort of updated video on anything related to sex, romance, relationships, women, etc. I'd love to hear new thoughts.

On 5/17/2019 at 1:16 PM, Serotoninluv said:

Yes, it’s context dependent. In this context, I agree with you that it is ridiculous. Being able to recognize context relative to one’s own experience is a skill. In another context, that would be wonderful advice. . . .I also agree with you that there are a lot more guys in their 20’s here trying to learn how to date than guys in their 40s trying to reach trans-personal nondual states within a stable relationship. 

There are a few videos on YT that make fun of nondualists trying to go on regular dates. It can be pretty ridiculous and I think you make a good point ? 

Do you have any links to that? That sounds hilarious. 

[kag101]

In a way, we are victims. Victims of our genetics, environment, upbringing, country, 21st century, etc. 

Edited May 28, 2019 by kag101

[Shin]

17 minutes ago, kag101 said:

This advice is very shallow, cliché, overly masculine, and neurotic.

In a way, we are victims. Victims of our genetics, environment, upbringing, country, 21st century, etc. 

They only have an influence on you.

Saying you are a victim to them means you have no power to change and take your own decision.

This is only true if you believe it.

It may relieve you to be responsible, but the cost of that is to stay sad and depressed for the rest of your life.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Shin

[thesmileyone]

On 17/05/2019 at 7:47 AM, Leo Gura said:

I see a chronic problem on this sub-forum, which is young males who complain about lack of success with women and failing to take responsibility for their situation.

The #1 rule of all growth and personal development is taking 100% responsibility for your situation. I know how hard that can be when you're struggling with women/sex. It feels very much like life is treating you unfairly and that it's the women's fault. Let me tell you right now: this is a total ILLUSION! It's not the women. It's not society. It's not post-modernists. It's not the Marxists. It's not the feminists. It's YOU!

This is not me blaming you. This is simply how all personal development works. Whatever problem you have in life you must begin by getting honest with yourself how you created it. Sometimes this is difficult to accept. It's much easier to blame someone else, or even blame yourself (for being too ugly or too short or too introverted). I am not suggesting you blame yourself. Rather, take ownership of the fact that you are the creator of your life. Whatever is missing in your life, you can correct, but only if you stop blaming yourself and others.

Be very mindful of how your ego-mind creates narratives which justify your sense of lack, brokenness, or inability to attract women. All of these narratives, justification, rationalizations, logic, "facts", scientific studies, proofs, etc are sneakily fabricated by your own mind! Your own mind is the enemy! Watch it like a hawk. Your mind will try to come up with reasons and excuses for why your life is unfair and how success with women is impossible. This is all horseshit! Do not believe your own mind here. Your mind is clouded by fear, insecurity, and neediness. That is totally normal and understandable, but you cannot resolve your problems from such a place. From such a place your problems will get worse as you start to blame the world and solidify your victim worldview with cherry-picked evidence, "science", and "logic". Be extra suspicious of "logic" and "science" here. There is nothing logical or scientific about your victim attitude or lack of success with women. It's purely about meeting the survival needs of your ego. Sex is a very powerful survival need which will drive your mind towards all manner of mental gymnastics to ensure that you get it, or at least feel better for not getting it.

There's good news and bad news. The good news is: Your looks are NOT the problem! The bad news is: your personality, attitude, and mindset are terrible! The good news is, it's possible to change that. The bad news is, it won't be easy and you will resist it like the devil that you are.

So what's the solution? Take ownership of your problem and commit to resolving it. For this you need faith and confidence in your ability to self-actualize. You must have enough hope and vision to see yourself get much better with attracting women. This is NOT a pipe dream or fuzzy thinking. The reality is that any man can become 100x better at attracting women if he really takes ownership of the matter. Yes, it takes serious work. But it's also highly worth it. Imagine that within 3 years you're able to attract pretty women and feel confident about yourself when it comes to dating. Isn't that worth the effort? It sure is. This is not a fantasy. I've done it, many men have done it, and so can you! Your looks are NOT the bottleneck, your mindset is.

So what do you do after you've established this vision? You must do lots of research to educate yourself about how dating actually work (not how you think it works). Find videos, find books, buy online courses, hire a coach, take a bootcamp, take a workshop, etc. There are literally hundreds of excellent resources available online these days. Most of them are legit, not scams. Study them hard and then get into the field. Start talking to women. Start approaching women. Start flirting with women. Start being much more social.

If you struggle attracting women I can tell you right now what your top problems are. It's not lack of money, looks, muscles, car, height, or dick size. Remember, attraction and dating is EXTREMELY counter-intuitive. It's works exactly the opposite of how you initially think.

Your top problems are:

• You live in your mancave and never go out! You must go out into social spaces where real women hang out.
• You spend WAY too much time online, indoors
• You spend WAY too much time on Youtube, Netflix, and playing video games
• You work too much
• You are never around cute single women
• You never start conversations with strangers
• You have terrible body language due to lack of experience
• You are not comfortable doing small-talk and being emotional and random in conversations
• You are far too logical
• You approach zero women on a regular basis
• You are terrified of approaching a women who you find attractive, talking yourself out of every approach
• You have terrible eye contact, you don't smile, and you don't project your voice properly
• You are crippled by fear and tongue-tied
• You are unable to start and sustain an interesting conversation with a human being
• You are disconnected from your body, your heart, your feelings, your emotions
• You have terrible self-image issues. You hate yourself, you hate how you look, you judge yourself way too harshly. You judge yourself just as harshly as you judge women.
• You have a bad sense of dress style and you don't groom yourself well
• You have no experience with physically touching women in a non-creepy way. You don't know how to rapidly physically escalate on a women without creeping her out.
• You don't know how women think or what they truly value in a man
• You don't know how to flirt and be authentic
• You are trying to be masculine in all the wrong ways -- fake masculinity
• You are needy, needy, needy
• You are terribly inexperienced
• You have no sense of passion or purpose in life, which robs you of confidence and masculine vitality
• Your attitude sucks: you whine, complain, bitch, moan, blame, and are so negative
• You think you understand life, reality, and how attraction works -- you don't!

So work on fixing all of that before you go blaming women. All of the above can be deliberately worked on and fixed.

You need to learn how to be a real man. Being a real man has nothing to do with big muscles, big dick, or a fast car. A real man is grounded on the INSIDE. It's ALL about inner game! You need to cultivate that confidence. It doesn't come naturally. You must build it!

80% of getting good with women is just actually being much more social. You need to deliberately re-structure your life so that you're automatically being more social. So that you're going out every weekend. So that you're bumping into new people constantly. So that you're making new friends all the time. This kind of re-structuring is very doable. You just have to be willing to change your lifestyle.

And stop watching or listening to any of the following:

• Jordan Peterson, MGTOW, RedPill, Incel material/forums/reddit

All of that is cancer of the mind. It's reinforcing your victim mindset and robbing you of your ability to change yourself.

I've been where you are. I know it's tough. But hang in there, hold your vision, have hope, get to work, and things will dramatically improve for you. You will become a new person by the end of this journey and you will be so proud of yourself. You will become a real man, not some whiny JP fanboy.

The #1 thing a real man does is take 100% responsibility for all his problems. A real man NEVER blames anyone, and certainly not women or feminism. A real man is a feminist. A real man fearlessly works on himself.

So start right there! Start by fixing that.

You seem a bit lost. JP is blue pilled.

 

What you preach IS red pill.

The problem is most people who call themselves redpill is actually MGTOW.

And most people who call themselves MGTOW are incells.

 

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A real man is a feminist. A real man fearlessly works on himself.

Feminists don't want men to work on themselves. Feminists have a variation of ideas on what men should do which stretches from genocide to all men moving to another continent. None of them have anything to do with men working on themselves. They don't want men in their lives. They don't want men in the world. Hence they push ideas like "Strong independent women don't need no man" and "Single mothers ftw!"
 

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Suzanna Danuta Walters, a professor of sociology and director of the Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University, is the editor of the gender studies journal Signs.

So men, if you really are #WithUs and would like us to not hate you for all the millennia of woe you have produced and benefited from, start with this: Lean out so we can actually just stand up without being beaten down. Pledge to vote for feminist women only. Don’t run for office. Don’t be in charge of anything. Step away from the power. We got this. And please know that your crocodile tears won’t be wiped away by us anymore. We have every right to hate you. You have done us wrong. #BecausePatriarchy. It is long past time to play hard for Team Feminism. And win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d141c3c53ae5
 

[Shin]

I think Leo is talking about true Feminism, not the Nazi crazy women that are so wounded that they can't trust any man anymore.

Like true respect/caring and equality for both sexes.