Tantric Masturbation - Your opinion

[KP_Spirituality27]

Hey. Recently I started to practice tantric masturbation - Masturbating over 30 minutes with the imagination.
The pleasure is greater than with ordinary masturbation. I do not use porn, just the sound of porn (ASMR) - they stimulate the mind. at the end I try to stop ejaculation and achieve a "prostate" orgasm and it's getting better and better. I'm only losing about a quarter of the whole semen. breathing is very important here. I feel good after such masturbation, but I feel like i can do it more and more, because I do not lose the semen and I'm horny. What do you think about it?

[KP_Spirituality27]

Btw im on nofap for long time

[Aeris]

it seams I got no more pleasure from masturbating, I can be aroused, but weirdly, only real sex is the real deal for me.

masturbation seams a waste to my reality, it's like laundry now ( and it's really like if I want it or not, nothing I cannot control ), I don't do it anymore. And no porn since 2 months. Before that I did not so much fapping neither for about 6 month ( was on a nofap journey, not really hard to stop, I wasn't an hard masturbator, depending the amount of weed/stims in my blood though, ritalin made me horny as a poney when I was doing it )

though I like real sex, and could fuck all night with some breaks. I don't see the point in masturbating even for training, I would just like to improve in real sex situation and experiences.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Aeris

[KP_Spirituality27]

33 minutes ago, Aeris said:

it seams I got no more pleasure from masturbating, I can be aroused, but weirdly, only real sex is the real deal for me.

masturbation seams a waste to my reality, it's like laundry now ( and it's really like if I want it or not, nothing I cannot control ), I don't do it anymore. And no porn since 2 months. Before that I did not so much fapping neither for about 6 month ( was on a nofap journey, not really hard to stop, I wasn't an hard masturbator, depending the amount of weed/stims in my blood though, ritalin made me horny as a poney when I was doing it )

though I like real sex, and could fuck all night with some breaks. I don't see the point in masturbating even for training, I would just like to improve in real sex situation and experiences.

thanks to masturbation you can learn to orgasm without ejaculation and extend the length of sex - do not you think? and thanks to stopping semen - you do not lose very valuable life energy

Edited April 17, 2019 by KP_Spirituality27

[Aeris]

not sure. I tend to last like 10-20 min " IN / OUT " but I m still very very newb, I could say that I had sex less than 50 times. ( sort of, I didn't count ) 

and I only lost my virginity this year lel.

my gf tell me I m the best she ever got, and both girl I had so far told me I made them hit the orgasm gate. ( even the first sex I had, she told me thanks you for the great sex ( then my monkey mind started to believe she was full of shit, cause it was my first time LOL, no fear or whatsover, 100% flow )

maybe I was a dormant sex god whatever hahahaha, my new talent

 and my gf, she had some dude with 20 conquests, told me nothing to worry about having no experience prior her, because I m the first one made it hit the door of gategasm and largely better than him.

 and I m super good / endurant. ( her words )
 

I just do it out of infinite love without monkey mind at all.

Ultra spiritual sex, and no judgement and boundaries, infinite understanding of the feminine side and embodiment of my masculine instinct/energy. I don't follow thought, I follow music.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Aeris

[Hello from Russia]

45 minutes ago, Aeris said:

not sure. I tend to last like 10-20 min " IN / OUT " but I m still very very newb, I could say that I had sex less than 50 times. ( sort of, I didn't count ) 

and I only lost my virginity this year lel.

my gf tell me I m the best she ever got, and both girl I had so far told me I made them hit the orgasm gate. ( even the first sex I had, she told me thanks you for the great sex ( then my monkey mind started to believe she was full of shit, cause it was my first time LOL, no fear or whatsover, 100% flow )

maybe I was a dormant sex god whatever hahahaha, my new talent

 and my gf, she had some dude with 20 conquests, told me nothing to worry about having no experience prior her, because I m the first one made it hit the door of gategasm and largely better than him.

 and I m super good / endurant. ( her words )
 

I just do it out of infinite love without monkey mind at all.

Ultra spiritual sex, and no judgement and boundaries, infinite understanding of the feminine side and embodiment of my masculine instinct/energy. I don't follow thought, I follow music.

You seem to getting it right!

[Javfly33]

17 hours ago, KP_Spirituality27 said:

Hey. Recently I started to practice tantric masturbation - Masturbating over 30 minutes with the imagination.
The pleasure is greater than with ordinary masturbation. I do not use porn, just the sound of porn (ASMR) - they stimulate the mind. at the end I try to stop ejaculation and achieve a "prostate" orgasm and it's getting better and better. I'm only losing about a quarter of the whole semen. breathing is very important here. I feel good after such masturbation, but I feel like i can do it more and more, because I do not lose the semen and I'm horny. What do you think about it?

Do you have any source to read? Pretty interested in this. I´ve trying to forget about porn doing Nofap, and modified styles of nofap, but my "style" of masturbation is too conditioned to "the porn way". 

[Spiral]

NoFap means you don’t masterbate, while he’s it’s better if you don’t ejaculate it still counts. The reason it’s problematic to fap(with or without ejaculate) is that you get a reward for (basically) nothing. It typically a problem if you need external stimulation as you’re  not really horny then. Although not sure about the harmful effects of ASMR.

[KP_Spirituality27]

3 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Do you have any source to read? Pretty interested in this. I´ve trying to forget about porn doing Nofap, and modified styles of nofap, but my "style" of masturbation is too conditioned to "the porn way". 

 

[Psychonaut]

Let me give me my 2 cents on this. 

Right from the start I will tell you I have a lot of sexual energy. I used to masturbate like 5 times a day kind of bad.

I have tried no-fap, regular sex and non-ejaculatory masturbation. 

No-fap is easier than balancing sexual energy. For me I gain more from being able to sustain higher amounts of sexual energy without needing to expell it. Releasing becomes a matter of choice. No-fap "extinguished" sexual pleasure after a while for me and then it is lost as an energy to use for growth. Its easier to eat no cookies, than to eat one cookie and then resist eating the second.

To me there is value in masturbating even when there is the possibility of sex. At least for me I actually only have and want to have sex once every week or two. So when I masturbate I think of new ways to have sex with my girl and imagine it. It keeps the sexual energy alive and makes me look forward to actually having sex. I also just enjoy the edginess of being horny. 

[KP_Spirituality27]

4 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Let me give me my 2 cents on this. 

Right from the start I will tell you I have a lot of sexual energy. I used to masturbate like 5 times a day kind of bad.

I have tried no-fap, regular sex and non-ejaculatory masturbation. 

No-fap is easier than balancing sexual energy. For me I gain more from being able to sustain higher amounts of sexual energy without needing to expell it. Releasing becomes a matter of choice. No-fap "extinguished" sexual pleasure after a while for me and then it is lost as an energy to use for growth. Its easier to eat no cookies, than to eat one cookie and then resist eating the second.

To me there is value in masturbating even when there is the possibility of sex. At least for me I actually only have and want to have sex once every week or two. So when I masturbate I think of new ways to have sex with my girl and imagine it. It keeps the sexual energy alive and makes me look forward to actually having sex. I also just enjoy the edginess of being horny. 

Very valuable informations. Thanks you.

[Psychonaut]

Mastering sexual energy is one of the most challenging energies. Don't be afraid of it. It is unpredictable and it tends to feel like you are being fucked by it instead of you doing the fucking. It makes me do random things, but these random bursts of energy get me laid.

Sex is one of those areas that can be explored to whatever depth you desire. It is similar to food in a way. Both are an experience and your level of awareness during the experience determines how much you get from it. You can eat a fastfood microwaved pizza or go for a three course meal with matching wine. Also the amount of flavor and taste you get from food depends on how much you open up to the sensations. 

Sex is similar in a way that it is an exercise in being fully there and fully feeling the girl. Feeling the entire experience and how everything makes a difference for her. The way she can feel your presence by overwhelming you with the feeling of her welcome and opening up to you. 

By training yourself through non ejaculatory masturbation you will actually feel more of the sensations. The reason for this is that there is no orgasm. It doesn't exist. You will not orgasm. She can do whatever she wants. She can deep throat you while begging you to cum in her mouth. You will only cum if you want to. If there is no orgasm, there is nothing to look forward to and all you have are the sensations of what you are feeling now. By feeling fully you receive one of the greatest gifts the feminine can give you. It can pull you into the present moment like no other wrecking ball.

Having so much control over the orgasm is an intense power. It is Godlike control and that is what she wants too. On a godly level you want her to open up and have her surrender fully so that you can fill her entirely. At the same time you don't loose yourself in her. She trusts that you will be there while she is fully bare spiritually.

From time to time you have to let go of some of the energy. There was a month in which I didn't ejaculate but had sex three times. It got the point where I was aware in a dream that I would cum in real life and I stopped the dream. After 3 weeks I had so much energy that my lower back was starting to hurt badly and my penis too.

I wanted to release but I didn't trust the girl. I was battling with myself. I thought she was too fat and "undeserving" of me. I realized that she was fully open already and willing to receive. My last girl "rejected" me by not letting me fully penetrate her. She only wanted skin deep sex. In a way it must be scary for the girl, just like a an acid trip. She has to trust me like she has to trust acid when she takes it. My last girl bailed every time I was about to take her over the edge. My new girl is open though. It is beautiful to see. She is beautiful. I can see her and feel her.

Having a girl trust you fully is a true gift. The feeling of acceptance and love is indescribable. You are finally free by being pure consciousness and fully present and in control. You are an unshakable rock, she is the ocean bashing against the rock. She is the other side that feels everything and dissolves in the feeling. She is in a state of surrender to feeling while you are just there and aware.

Hmmmm, ^^ hope this helps a bit or gives a vision or motivation. If it is not clear I'll welcome questions. I am very interested in sex and trying to go as deep as possible by reading everything I can find.

[Girzo]

Not having ejaculation is super easy when you practice Kriya Yoga. Without any additional training, I can control whether I want to ejaculate or not and when. I can also last way longer (we are talking about masturbation here).

[Forestluv]

Masturbating to a single nude image can be really intense when the imagination is highly active and focused.

[Aeris]

On 22/04/2019 at 2:59 AM, Serotoninluv said:

Masturbating to a single nude image can be really intense when the imagination is highly active and focused.

sounds like before internet time

 

On 22/04/2019 at 1:02 AM, Girzo said:

Not having ejaculation is super easy when you practice Kriya Yoga. Without any additional training, I can control whether I want to ejaculate or not and when. I can also last way longer (we are talking about masturbation here).

modulate please, I m still a newb, and sometimes it's not long enough.

Edited April 23, 2019 by Aeris