How to really please a woman spiritually ?

[Aeris]

hey guys, I m not an expert, I just decided to dedicate this year to sex & love with woman.

so I m doing my thing, knowing everything hahahaha ( I know practice is the best teacher, but with some integration + meditation + actuality without thinking while practicing, things unfolding because of the integration ) that's just my way.

I like to master everything I put my mind in, they call this "OCD" this is exactly how is wired my brain.

when I start having an idea, it never stop, when I was playing video games as a young, it was like 14h a days for months, while shitting almost on myself.

I never changed on this, I just appreciate the grind, that's really me, grinding things, love, spirituality, learning, drawing, music, in fact, I almost never find anymore fun in game, like "fun", for me the whole life has always been a grind, and I appreciate it, when I stop grinding I feel almost bad about myself, not because of an orange thinking. The only thing hard to grind is meditation though, I can barely do 1 hour a day.
the thing is I grinded so much, it's almost like all data are the same, but still, there is always a bit more truth, more challenge, more things.

For me bringing heaven on earth, is not metaphoric, it's really what I want, I recently started study physics/maths only because all subjects seams almost wasted now.

[Aaron p]

9 hours ago, Aeris said:

Any some good pieces of advices / vidéo ? 

I already watched the video of leo on attraction, sex, and squirt ( ofc )

something more ? I think I'm really good with eating the neck of girls

@Aeris I definitely definitely think the best thing to do is work on yourself. Change your vibration and she will like it naturally

[Aeris]

Just now, Aaron p said:

@Aeris I definitely definitely think the best thing to do is work on yourself. Change your vibration and she will like it naturally

I do simple synchronicity without thinking, watching life unfold itself like a movie. But currently, I m waiting and life unfold by me doing this topic.

[Aeris]

15 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Aeris Be very careful. If you look, you can see a consistent theme through out the forum, in a nutshell it is this;

“If & when I have this (thing, life, person, object, experience) then I would be happy. Be very careful not to think true happiness can be found, or that it can come to you, be it from a person, sex, psychedelics, shiny things, money, status, power, etc, etc. This is The Trap. Looking outside of yourself for happiness is a very long and ultimately unfulfilling journey. Maybe you must take it, maybe not. Up to you. But, I promise you, every road leads back to you.

That Trap, is why this forum is. 

That is The Map.

You can take that journey, and you will likely experience many good feelings, and some not so good ones too, and both will teach you what you are.

But you can see what you are, first - before the journey. 

And that journey, well, you’ll just have to see that for yourself. Words won’t do.

 

ho no, to me nothing will makes me happy I don't need this or that. I don't feel a craving.

I m fully aware of my own bubble life, but I m on a boat, and there is a sea, you see ?  and I m a pirat ! And I'll be the king of pirat. Not my ego, just the echo of the whole resonating through my body, calling for a war that will bring peace to everyone and everything.

 

just the same sea, that you're on while writting to me.

Edited February 26, 2019 by Aeris

[Odysseus]

2 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

Nothing. I just get sad every time I hear anything about love, sex or anything like that, because I can personally never have that.

Man, I feel sorry for you but almost everybody struggles. Problems are there to be replaced by better problems. You have to find a drive inside you that pushes you through your misery - courage, vision. As Camus puts it "In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer. And that makes me happy. For it says that no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me, there’s something stronger – something better, pushing right back."

[Hellspeed]

Today's Tantra BS they focus on touching and techniques. But Tantra in reality is deeper than sex and more orgasmic, to an awakening level of feeling and being. Only a few teachers of Tantra know the secrets and core of this art. The majority of initiates are just that, initiates. 

The old teachings cannot be taught, only discovered in solitude. I'd say is the core of awakening and enlightenment. 

How do you guys think the great gurus of history did to attract that blissful state in people and they create thousands and millions of followers? And Conducting meditations with thousands of people. TANTRA! The basis of any living thing relation and beyond. 

As Sadhguru said: Tantra is orgasmic but not sexual.

 

But in society the majority don't know how to use the Breath with Muladhara. So they use the upper body parts of the body Head and Muladhara. This is how society works, 2 chakras, blocked Head/Legs leads to Plexus/Throat and the sexual energy does no go into Muladhara, goes into the throat and many lose their teeth and the ability to sing. So it creates in the human being a split, usually having a bigger right side of the body than the left, society calls this normal. Is what the great Enlightened beings of the past created as slaves. But some slaves in time came to power and the knowledge was lost. 

Now what we are left with is the praising of the nervous system and cortex brain. So humans no longer know why they have certain emotions, because they lost touch with the reality of their limbic system/reptilian parts of the brain and internal organs. They call this subconscious mind. Little they know that subconscious does not exist, is just an illusion of the dormant human. 

So Tantra as Sadhguru, Osho and others have been using it or still using it requires Awakening, otherwise is just a bad joke and a mind-fuck in the literal sense. 

Edited February 27, 2019 by Hellspeed

[Jordan94]

9 hours ago, Mikael89 said:

Nothing. I just get sad every time I hear anything about love, sex, romantic relationships or anything like that, because I can personally never have that.

First it's great to see the self-honesty and awareness to recognize that (the first part of your sentence), and as the other said that (the second part) is 100% just a belief that you have, which is not true at all

[Aeris]

3 hours ago, Hellspeed said:

Today's Tantra BS they focus on touching and techniques. But Tantra in reality is deeper than sex and more orgasmic, to an awakening level of feeling and being. Only a few teachers of Tantra know the secrets and core of this art. The majority of initiates are just that, initiates. 

The old teachings cannot be taught, only discovered in solitude. I'd say is the core of awakening and enlightenment. 

How do you guys think the great gurus of history did to attract that blissful state in people and they create thousands and millions of followers? And Conducting meditations with thousands of people. TANTRA! The basis of any living thing relation and beyond. 

As Sadhguru said: Tantra is orgasmic but not sexual.

 

But in society the majority don't know how to use the Breath with Muladhara. So they use the upper body parts of the body Head and Muladhara. This is how society works, 2 chakras, blocked Head/Legs leads to Plexus/Throat and the sexual energy does no go into Muladhara, goes into the throat and many lose their teeth and the ability to sing. So it creates in the human being a split, usually having a bigger right side of the body than the left, society calls this normal. Is what the great Enlightened beings of the past created as slaves. But some slaves in time came to power and the knowledge was lost. 

Now what we are left with is the praising of the nervous system and cortex brain. So humans no longer know why they have certain emotions, because they lost touch with the reality of their limbic system/reptilian parts of the brain and internal organs. They call this subconscious mind. Little they know that subconscious does not exist, is just an illusion of the dormant human. 

So Tantra as Sadhguru, Osho and others have been using it or still using it requires Awakening, otherwise is just a bad joke and a mind-fuck in the literal sense. 

I think I m getting some of your points through the layer, thanks for this post brother

 

edit : very meaningful in fact. Pure honesty there, I appreciate, litteraly deep wisdom as they say, all my blessing

Edited February 27, 2019 by Aeris

[peanutspathtotruth]

14 hours ago, cetus56 said:

What's the female version of a lingum message? Just wondering.

Yoni massage.
 

5 hours ago, Hellspeed said:

Today's Tantra BS they focus on touching and techniques. But Tantra in reality is deeper than sex and more orgasmic, to an awakening level of feeling and being. Only a few teachers of Tantra know the secrets and core of this art. The majority of initiates are just that, initiates. 

The old teachings cannot be taught, only discovered in solitude. I'd say is the core of awakening and enlightenment. 

How do you guys think the great gurus of history did to attract that blissful state in people and they create thousands and millions of followers? And Conducting meditations with thousands of people. TANTRA! The basis of any living thing relation and beyond. 

As Sadhguru said: Tantra is orgasmic but not sexual.

 

But in society the majority don't know how to use the Breath with Muladhara. So they use the upper body parts of the body Head and Muladhara. This is how society works, 2 chakras, blocked Head/Legs leads to Plexus/Throat and the sexual energy does no go into Muladhara, goes into the throat and many lose their teeth and the ability to sing. So it creates in the human being a split, usually having a bigger right side of the body than the left, society calls this normal. Is what the great Enlightened beings of the past created as slaves. But some slaves in time came to power and the knowledge was lost. 

Now what we are left with is the praising of the nervous system and cortex brain. So humans no longer know why they have certain emotions, because they lost touch with the reality of their limbic system/reptilian parts of the brain and internal organs. They call this subconscious mind. Little they know that subconscious does not exist, is just an illusion of the dormant human. 

So Tantra as Sadhguru, Osho and others have been using it or still using it requires Awakening, otherwise is just a bad joke and a mind-fuck in the literal sense. 

Yes, I agree that to really even start with this, awakening is necessary first. A part of me doesn't like that haha, but I do feel more and more that it's true and that there is no way around this.

[cetus]

@peanutspathtotruth Thanks

[Aeris]

46 minutes ago, peanutspathtotruth said:

Yoni massage.
 

Yes, I agree that to really even start with this, awakening is necessary first. A part of me doesn't like that haha, but I do feel more and more that it's true and that there is no way around this.

awakening is relatif to the I-self we all have our own quantum destinity bubble, that's why others people belief doesn't matter, mostly delusion you cling to. My vision is nature vision though, my reflection is only a resonance of nature will, I m not a self egoic, maybe a delusion, but all my thoughts, brain, perception, they are all the shaping of the infinite mirror. 

I appreciate the video you put, I m almost at the end of it.

[peanutspathtotruth]

4 hours ago, Aeris said:

awakening is relatif to the I-self we all have our own quantum destinity bubble, that's why others people belief doesn't matter, mostly delusion you cling to. My vision is nature vision though, my reflection is only a resonance of nature will, I m not a self egoic, maybe a delusion, but all my thoughts, brain, perception, they are all the shaping of the infinite mirror. 

I appreciate the video you put, I m almost at the end of it.

Glad you did and I see why you called him a "green" guy and it's true of course that this is a little unstructured and hippie. But information wise I still learned some nice new things  

[Aeris]

39 minutes ago, peanutspathtotruth said:

Glad you did and I see why you called him a "green" guy and it's true of course that this is a little unstructured and hippie. But information wise I still learned some nice new things  

yes totally right. Just a way of talking, for all I know, he is not "green" or a thing.
do you have more in your data close to his teaching ? maybe more aimed toward men.

I appreciated though this kind of teaching with funny words and all that

Edited February 27, 2019 by Aeris

[peanutspathtotruth]

44 minutes ago, Aeris said:

yes totally right. Just a way of talking, for all I know, he is not "green" or a thing.
do you have more in your data close to his teaching ? maybe more aimed toward men.

I appreciated though this kind of teaching with funny words and all that

I started reading "The Tao Yoga of Love" by Mantak Chia which is specifically written for men. There are many exercises - if you really wanna do it it will take a lot of time and dedication every day. It's like Kriya Pranayama, but you draw the energy directly from your balls. But that's only the basic exercise. Also includes Bandhas, but it's all from the Tao teaching system.

What I liked about his book is that he makes it ABSOLUTELY clear that the #1 thing is to preserve the sexual energy as in not ejaculating and learning to direct it upwards. It's an uncomfortable truth but I would say it's one of the few keys to get this really right. 

Right now though I stopped reading anything about this cause I'm on NoFap which once again changes everything energy wise for me, especially in conjunction with Kriya Yoga. So I try to stay away from everything saying "vagina" or giving tips on intercourse 

[Aeris]

53 minutes ago, peanutspathtotruth said:

I started reading "The Tao Yoga of Love" by Mantak Chia which is specifically written for men. There are many exercises - if you really wanna do it it will take a lot of time and dedication every day. It's like Kriya Pranayama, but you draw the energy directly from your balls. But that's only the basic exercise. Also includes Bandhas, but it's all from the Tao teaching system.

What I liked about his book is that he makes it ABSOLUTELY clear that the #1 thing is to preserve the sexual energy as in not ejaculating and learning to direct it upwards. It's an uncomfortable truth but I would say it's one of the few keys to get this really right. 

Right now though I stopped reading anything about this cause I'm on NoFap which once again changes everything energy wise for me, especially in conjunction with Kriya Yoga. So I try to stay away from everything saying "vagina" or giving tips on intercourse 

I m a leader in the no fap thing, since 5 months. I did relapse like 8 times, but I m more powerful than this.
I had my first intercourse last week in fact ( I m so proud of me lel, 25y spreading the mud ), just that I want to learn more now !

it's my day 5 then today ( but last time wasn't porn/hand  ). So you think mantak Chia is legit work ? I find him a bit too "cosmic", is there a way his teaching could be more translated to my lesser chinese spiritual perspective, sometimes he gives me the orbit mind confusion, too much blabla

 

edit : you stay away but your mind say otherwise, keep the fight !

Edited February 27, 2019 by Aeris

[peanutspathtotruth]

1 hour ago, Aeris said:

I m a leader in the no fap thing, since 5 months. I did relapse like 8 times, but I m more powerful than this.
I had my first intercourse last week in fact ( I m so proud of me lel, 25y spreading the mud ), just that I want to learn more now !

it's my day 5 then today ( but last time wasn't porn/hand  ). So you think mantak Chia is legit work ? I find him a bit too "cosmic", is there a way his teaching could be more translated to my lesser chinese spiritual perspective, sometimes he gives me the orbit mind confusion, too much blabla

 

edit : you stay away but your mind say otherwise, keep the fight !

I'm also more motivated than ever to do it for a prolonged duration this time. It supports my lifestyle so much right now. Really amazing Also, I had to find out through some contemplation how deeply I'm still addicted to porn and masturbation. I did it the majority of my life. It's crazy. Like even if I don't feel like it, it's so deeply ingrained in there. OF COURSE I need at least 3-4 months to rewire that brain. Let's do this 

I mean, for me it always comes down to how to read something. Exclude the stuff you don't need and take the (in this case) practical steps. That's how I do it at least. If you can do that, sure, I really recommend reading it. 

[Aeris]

focus on improving others area of your life, I m a lot into politics, physics/maths, podcast on health/nootropics/marketing, doing sport, listening music/dancing. Creating my own discord with lot of "orange old buddy that want to make it" ( it's so fun to mindfuck them )

 But that's my way so far, some ideas, try to find a new hobby that takes up your brain all the time. ( hard thing, I mostly only draw girl, but my mind keep holding tight ! haha )
First time I hold for 29 days, that's my longest strike. best way is having a friend to support with you, but will alone can be enough. depend how you handle things.

I have no job, and french help is my salary so far, is really a god send, allow me to live without having to go on a common job.
I could PUA girls and shit if the one I m falling in love doesn't want me, she is a green/yellow kind of girl, couldn't dream better, politic + green sided mind, and I m sure I give her a high spiritual interest in his own endeavor. I would be glad to see her again, but that's on my rules to never fall too much for egoic desire. Means I m in love, but I won't to look like a toxic needy, sending her a mysterious draw of her is how I do court haha, but she seams too busy trying to feminazy the world I suppose hahaha. But man it was my first, and we did all night and morning, I wasn't myself, I think all thoses years, the thing was only my mind, too much bs holded tight about this or that, being with the flow was such enlightment, you don't worry, you don't overthink shit, you just wave on what is, that's beautiful, I don't know, I still think, but that's mostly my left part that talk in the "real world", because anyway, my right part is over the roof in term of political side, metapolitic is way too far for most people. to not say everyone around me.

 I m an overcompulsive learner, it's hard for me to drive/ doing a regular "orange job", so I play on others aspect of my self, like being, but being for me is doing things.

Do you meditate and did you find that helpful in a practical way ? I tend to do 1 hour per day on a full day ( 20 x 3 ), I still have someday where I m weirdly feeling something weird inside me, aside having a good balanced diet that seams ok with my body, ashwagandha help a lot when I m not feeling my day, but I m not sure at this point if that's placebo or real plant work.

I don't know why I have been writting all this, compulsive

 

will read the book, I have it in my folder since a while now

Edited February 27, 2019 by Aeris

[Max_V]

23 hours ago, Nahm said:

@Aeris

Today a lady asked me if I won the lottery. I asked, what do you mean? She asked, why are you so happy? I told her, not knowing a long convo was coming, that basically I had got to the bottom of who I really am, and it has brought great joy into my living. She inquired more, so I asked her, have you inquired into yourself, into what you really are? She said no, she joked that it would probably keep her up at night. I asked, well, what do you think you are presently? She said I don’t know. 

I told her that her honesty was refreshing. I asked, if you readily admit that you don’t know what you are, then what makes you think it would ‘keep you up at night’, if you knew? She laughed and said, ya, you got a point there. I pointed out that maybe she has some beliefs that deep down, she wasn’t good. She then looked a little nervous. Interested, but nervous. 

I said picture a bathtub full of water. If you poured a glass of water into it, it would mix right in, and you wouldn’t even notice the water from the glass once it mixed into the water in the tub, right? She said ya.   I said, but if you put a rock in the tub, it won’t mix, the rock would stay separated, right? She said ya. 

I explained to her, that when she thinks against herself, when she thinks negatively about herself, when she thinks she is anything less that love, anything less than beautiful and deserving of all things good - it doesn’t feel good. She agreed, she said no, it doesn’t feel good. 

I pointed out to her, that who she is, deep down inside, must be good, because when she holds a negative thought about her self, it doesn’t ‘mix’ - and the ‘not good’ feeling is how she knows it doesn’t mix - that the negative thought is like the rock, and that she is like the water. 

Beautiful, Nahm, thank you for sharing this story and helping that woman. I bet you just opened up an entire new world for her.

[zambize]

20 minutes ago, Aeris said:

focus on improving others area of your life, I m a lot into politics, physics/maths, podcast on health/nootropics/marketing, doing sport, listening music/dancing. Creating my own discord with lot of "orange old buddy that want to make it" ( it's so fun to mindfuck them )

 But that's my way so far, some ideas, try to find a new hobby that takes up your brain all the time. ( hard thing, I mostly only draw girl, but my mind keep holding tight ! haha )
First time I hold for 29 days, that's my longest strike. best way is having a friend to support with you, but will alone can be enough. depend how you handle things.

I have no job, and french help is my salary so far, is really a god send, allow me to live without having to go on a common job.
I could PUA girls and shit if the one I m falling in love doesn't want me, she is a green/yellow kind of girl, couldn't dream better, politic + green sided mind, and I m sure I give her a high spiritual interest in his own endeavor. I would be glad to see her again, but that's on my rules to never fall too much for egoic desire. Means I m in love, but I won't to look like a toxic needy, sending her a mysterious draw of her is how I do court haha, but she seams too busy trying to feminazy the world I suppose hahaha. But man it was my first, and we did all night and morning, I wasn't myself, I think all thoses years, the thing was only my mind, too much bs holded tight about this or that, being with the flow was such enlightment, you don't worry, you don't overthink shit, you just wave on what is, that's beautiful, I don't know, I still think, but that's mostly my left part that talk in the "real world", because anyway, my right part is over the roof in term of political side, metapolitic is way too far for most people. to not say everyone around me.

 I m an overcompulsive learner, it's hard for me to drive/ doing a regular "orange job", so I play on others aspect of my self, like being, but being for me is doing things.

Do you meditate and did you find that helpful in a practical way ? I tend to do 1 hour per day on a full day ( 20 x 3 ), I still have someday where I m weirdly feeling something weird inside me, aside having a good balanced diet that seams ok with my body, ashwagandha help a lot when I m not feeling my day, but I m not sure at this point if that's placebo or real plant work.

I don't know why I have been writting all this, compulsive

 

will read the book, I have it in my folder since a while now

You're into a lot of stuff, I love physics and math as well btw.  I think its important to specialize a bit though, especially career wise if you havent already.  It's easy to get too excited on learning the next subject, without spending sufficient time on the subjects you already got on your plate.  Maybe that doesn't apply to you either and it's just a huge projection on my part, cause I know damn well I can get stuck in that mindset.  Nevertheless, it's something to think about 

[Aeris]

yes you're real, especially physics, I m very noobish, I would scale myself knowing 5% of what is known. ( or 2%, hard to scale when you don't know haha, I just know some terms, and it's mostly quantum in a real teaching that push me to look upon physics, still lurking for the best teacher )

I learned biology with sapolsky course for instance, but that's basic, then nootropic and wikipedia to read a lot about each molecule and all the current model of reality we have for them.

Can't tell, in terms of music for instance, I did my 10 000 hours of pure grind with tutorial and watching pro doing their work on streaming.

When I wanted to understand movies, I watched 5 movies a day for like 2 years.

I m currently drawing and all my mates drawer in real life, find my work improving really fast, but that's because I probably do 5 hours and more a day while knowing how to work efficiently, because I do not go outside a lot, I m a pure caveman. I don't need people, I m too addicted to learn, learn. I learned so much, I read rah for instance, it was making sense, most knowledge can be metaphorized, and many things start to look the same, without being exactly the same. I think a lot in term of energy, frequency, harmony, music tongue I would say.

Leo gura was sort of the best set of knowledge I find for optimal thinking learning. Maybe a delusion, but I don't think so, he was transposing what I practicaly find in reality myself, just in others words.

I did specialise in how to learn fast, efficiently, optimaly, I have my ways, and even my spiritual way for reading the matrix and finding the best knowledge in each category of learning.

would be glad to hear you share your best teacher about physics/laws. I m very more fascinated by the type of geometric/law force stuff than value thinking though, aside I m sure it has is use in a real context term.

When I played video games I did 10 000 hours of rpg/competitive game with good people ( good community learning/self team work ), before my 20, this way I totaly understand what "self improvement" is, and I always transposed the idea of rpg to real work.

I mean, if autistic and ocd pointed to real physical type of wiring in people, I m both. Internet is my drug of choice.

When I did drug, it was the same, I did smoke 2g of weed a day while doing music.

When I did psychedelic, I was on them, almost 2 weeks without any break. took me 2 months of shadow work. I m still digesting the idea of a reality bubble.

But of course not really full tripping all the 2 weeks, just enough to fully dive.

Edited February 27, 2019 by Aeris