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I'm finally admitting that I suck at talking to women

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After my Horrifying yet incredibly beautiful DMT trip, my higher self or God as my mind wishes to call it came to the conclusion that my mind is going to have to be brutally honest with itself and that this is the best news ever. I wouldn't necessarily say its my conversation thats off , although it still needs a lot of work, my biggest obstacle with talking to women is getting my mind to relax. The times I recall that I've had amazing interactions with women is when I've been entirely present and relaxed. Approaching isnt even hard when you're relaxed, you see a woman give you  look of interest and conversation just flows out of you, if you arent relax you might as well not bother approaching as you're not going to be in the right mental state to lead a conversation. Most of this requires getting rid of a load of bullshit and old thinking patterns out of your head 


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Lol, this isn't exactly a big secret. Basically all guys suck at talking with women unless they trained that skill.

You should approach even if you are not relaxed or "in state". Sure, you will blow up sets, but it doesn't matter because blowing up sets is what gets you to relax.

Never expect your first approach of the day to go smooth. The first few approaches are just warm ups. They almost always blow up. If you're approaching, you should be doing at least 10-20 approaches within a few hours. Once you blow the first 10, then you'll hit state and you will start acing the rest.

The key to learning game is to find a location where you can do 10-20 approaches within a few hours. Find an area with tons of girls so that you aren't worried about blowing sets up. Become an approach machine for a while and your skills will skyrocket.

I remember when I approached 750 girls in one month. That was a productive month! You'll be amazed at what opportunities materialize from 750 approaches. The most unlikeliest of things pan out with those numbers. If you approach 750 girls, one of them will just want to suck your dick for no reason at all, LOL. Most guys don't meet that many girls in their entire lifetime. You can do it in one month.


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@zambize Nah, you're only gonna sleep with a tiny percentage of that number.

And the opportunities aren't just sex. I became a life coach after cold approaching a random girl at a bar in Dallas. She told me about the life coach training she was going to and I immediately knew that's what I should do. And the rest was history.

One time in Vegas I accidentally cold approached a life coach who immediately invited me up to her luxury hotel suite to smoke weed (because I knew about life coaching). Then she kicked me out because I didn't want to smoke weed.

Another time in Vegas I accidentally cold approached Tony Robbin's copyrighter and went on a date with her and she told me a bunch of gossip about Tony Robbins. We talked about self-help for hours. She knew all the top self-help authors.

Another time I went on a date with the world's 75th highest ranked Russian tennis player. She was cashing $50,000 checks from her sponsors. She was as hot as you would imagine a Russian tennis player to be.

Another time I met an actress from San Diego with giant boobs. I approached her by telling her she had nice boobs and politely asked if I could fondle them in front of her friends. She of course said yes.

The craziest things materialize when you approach a lot. You would not believe such things were possible. You'd be amazed at the kind of stuff you can get away with.

It's all a numbers game.

One time I was outside the club and bumped into Michael Jordan. Another time I was outside the club and bumped into one of the world's most popular male porn stars. A few months ago I was walking through the casino lobby with a friend and accidentally bumped into Mystery outside the Marquee nightclub. Talk about going full-circle.


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16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@zambize Nah, you're only gonna sleep with a tiny percentage of that number.

And the opportunities aren't just sex. I became a life coach after cold approaching a random girl at a bar in Dallas. She told me about the life coach training she was going to and I immediately knew that's what I should do. And the rest was history.

One time in Vegas I accidentally cold approached a life coach who immediately invited me up to her luxury hotel suite to smoke weed (because I knew about life coaching). Then she kicked me out because I didn't want to smoke weed.

Another time in Vegas I accidentally cold approached Tony Robbin's copyrighter and went on a date with her and she told me a bunch of gossip about Tony Robbins.

Another time I went on a date with the world's 75th highest ranked Russian tennis player. She was cashing $50,000 checks from her sponsors. She was as hot as you would imagine a Russian tennis player to be.

Another time I met an actress from San Diego with giant boobs. I approached her by telling her she had nice boobs and politely asked if I could fondle them in front of her friends. She of course said yes.

The craziest things material when you approach a lot. You would not believe such things were possible. You'd be amazing at the kind of stuff you can get away with.

It's all a numbers game.

I mean I am amazed reading some of the shit you posted. that being said I'm sure there is the equally bad/awkward shit


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@zambize The worst things that happened to be me were:

  • One time an annoyed girl punched me in the mouth and gave me a bloody lip
  • Another time an annoyed drunk girl clawed my neck causing a bloody mess and a scar that I still have
  • Another time a careless girl burned my favorite jacket with her cigarette

That's about it.

One time a giant guy wanted to beat me up because he thought I touched his wife's ass (which I even didn't). Luckily I was able to back away.

As far as awkward stuff, oh yeah... too much to list. Awkward is my middle name.

P.S. One time I saw a girl step on a broken glass with her bare foot, creating a pool of blood on the dance floor about a meter in diameter. It was like a shark attack. Never go barefoot in the club.

Another time I saw a totally drunk girl getting dragged out of the club across the floor by her hair by security while kicking and screaming.


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Yeah Leo glad to hear that from you. I have something similar but not with girls but with going to jam sessions. Going on stage and improvising is risky and often involves awkwardness. But that's how you develop. At first 'top players' were laughing at me, but now (after 4 years of major failures) you know I moved a little closer from laugh to respect. Some of them start to believe in me. Going to parties with lot of musician is still stressful for me but you know that's how you build this muscle. Involves a lot of awkwardness. And then the detachment comes. After all these failures you just stop caring much. And that what attracts girls, business partners and so on.

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@Amadeusz Improv classes are great. I used do an improv class in Dallas. Fun times. Really pushes you out of your shell.


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Yeah. But I mean jazz improvisation. And freestyle rapping/singing :) But that's similar. 

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I've wanted to approach some attractive girls while they are jogging past me while walking. Not sure what I want to do with it. But not really sure I want any relationship for quite some time as it is. 

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@Leo Gura Holy shit man. Its wild to see the profound stuff you say and then this stuff come from the same person.

You've really done a lot of exploration and growing in life.

Funny that you mention Dallas when I just moved in between Dallas and Fort Worth.

Maybe I should go into the city sometime.

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@Leo Gura A video on this will be just gold

 


One’s center is not one’s center, it is the center of the whole. 

And the ego-center is one’s center.

That is the only difference, but that is a vast difference.- 

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@Shadowraix Life is a mixture of Heaven and Earth. Don't be so Heavenly that you forget to touch the Earth.


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@Shadowraix Uptown Dallas is great on Fridays and Saturdays. Swarms of hot girls looking for fun.


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@Leo Gura Would you get better results now that you are more conscious? Like getting into state ~immediately, having more charm, caring less etc

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10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Shadowraix Life is a mixture of Heaven and Earth. Don't be so Heavenly that you forget to touch the Earth.

Good reminder. I applaud the exploration. Especially makes for some great stories haha

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16 minutes ago, iGhost said:

@Leo Gura Would you get better results now that you are more conscious? Like getting into state ~immediately, having more charm, caring less etc

Yes, consciousness definitely helps ground you and be more detached and authentic. But it's also not a cure-all. Approaching is a very specific skillset which needs to be honed, just like golf or tennis. Consciousness helps with all skillsets but doesn't replace training the skillset.

I would not be immediately in state.


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Just now, Leo Gura said:

Yes, consciousness definitely helps ground you and be more detached and authentic. But it's also not a cure-all. Approaching is a very specific skillset which needs to be honed, just like golf or tennis. Consciousness helps with all skillsets but doesn't replace training the skillset.

Copy that, thank you!

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@Leo Gura My issue with relaxing comes down to a deeply held belief that being uninhibited and letting go will make me do something foolish or offend somebody. The ego believes it self regulates me and the higher self shouldn't be let out as it will run amok. Its like imagine letting somebody you dont know take your car out for a spin, wouldn't you be worried they'd wreck it??. So not being relaxed and inhibited is not giving this person the keys


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10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@zambize Nah, you're only gonna sleep with a tiny percentage of that number.

And the opportunities aren't just sex. I became a life coach after cold approaching a random girl at a bar in Dallas. She told me about the life coach training she was going to and I immediately knew that's what I should do. And the rest was history.

One time in Vegas I accidentally cold approached a life coach who immediately invited me up to her luxury hotel suite to smoke weed (because I knew about life coaching). Then she kicked me out because I didn't want to smoke weed.

Another time in Vegas I accidentally cold approached Tony Robbin's copyrighter and went on a date with her and she told me a bunch of gossip about Tony Robbins. We talked about self-help for hours. She knew all the top self-help authors.

Another time I went on a date with the world's 75th highest ranked Russian tennis player. She was cashing $50,000 checks from her sponsors. She was as hot as you would imagine a Russian tennis player to be.

Another time I met an actress from San Diego with giant boobs. I approached her by telling her she had nice boobs and politely asked if I could fondle them in front of her friends. She of course said yes.

The craziest things materialize when you approach a lot. You would not believe such things were possible. You'd be amazed at the kind of stuff you can get away with.

It's all a numbers game.

One time I was outside the club and bumped into Michael Jordan. Another time I was outside the club and bumped into one of the world's most popular male porn stars. A few months ago I was walking through the casino lobby with a friend and accidentally bumped into Mystery outside the Marquee nightclub. Talk about going full-circle.

@Leo Gura pure gold, hahaha

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