Getting Off Forum Before I Lose It

[Leo Gura]

@kieranperez You are being way too harsh on yourself. Go watch some Matt Kahn videos and practice some self-love and self-acceptance. You cannot change your life from a position of self-flagellation and self-hatred. Well, you can, but it's gonna be very ugly.

Being harsh with yourself just tends to heap ego on top of ego, problem on top of problem.

Slow down, collect yourself, find peace in the now, and slowly begin the process of assembling your life, brick by brick. All the resources you need are basically available these days online.

[Joseph Maynor]

@kieranperez

If you ever want to chat with me, PM me.

[Antonius]

@kieranperez You're a good dude. I don't post here a lot but I read your posts. I see that you care a lot about leading a meaningful life and that is all that matters. 

I relate to you a lot because I'm coming from shitty circumstances but I think what sets us apart is the wisdom and foresight to see that raising consciousness is the most important thing in life. 

I think we will look back and cherish this hardship we are going through because we would never grow without it. We are both still very young (I'm 22) and if we just persist in stuff like meditation, books, benevolence, love etc. we will find ourselves living a happy, fulfilling life. 

I believe in you man, I want you to succeed just like everyone here. 

Everything is gonna be alright <3

[alankrillin]

@Leo Gura

Everything you disagree with is a false limiting belief these days. 

I can literally see accounts of people asking the same questions, arguing the same things, thinking the same thoughts as years ago. 

If you are honest you would say at least half the people are succeeding and the other half not. 

What I'm saying is if you been practicing a hobby for 3 years and you didn't improve or have nothing to show for then that's pretty bad. 

[Leo Gura]

@alankrillin I never claimed that everyone is succeeding. I would guess that 90% of people who watch Actualized.org take zero action so they get very little results. It's like watching videos about weightlifting and expecting to get jacked without ever stepping foot in the gym.

This work requires serious intention, motivation, passion, and persistence. By definition, 99% of people will be too lazy and myopic to do it. We are talking about the most advanced wisdom available to mankind. This will not be actualized effortlessly.

But if you want, you can totally transform your life. The choice is yours. How serious are you gonna take it?

It doesn't take 3 years to see results.

If you were serious, in 3 years you could earn hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash or transcend death using the information I've talked about.

The problem isn't that what I say it too good to be true, it's that it's so true you'll hardly believe it when you see it.

[NoSelfSelf]

@Leo Gura how can you outgrow this channel is there anything beyond it?

[Shin]

1 hour ago, alankrillin said:

@Leo Gura

Everything you disagree with is a false limiting belief these days. 

I can literally see accounts of people asking the same questions, arguing the same things, thinking the same thoughts as years ago. 

If you are honest you would say at least half the people are succeeding and the other half not. 

What I'm saying is if you been practicing a hobby for 3 years and you didn't improve or have nothing to show for then that's pretty bad. 

You are arguing how much people waste their time,

By wasting your time complaining about it.

I would bet you didn't improve at all and search an excuse for it ?

Or you developed a disgusting superior ego and needs to show that you are smarter than anyone else ?

Whatever is the case, you're deluding yourself and pointing the finger outward instead of doing the work.

[Colin]

The book "Atomic Habits", by James Clear is quite congruent with the advice that Leo has given in this thread.


 

I just finished it. It is quite good. Very level headed and lucid

[alankrillin]

@Leo Gura

I agree with you last post 90% probably are not doing it. 

@Shin

No.  If that's the case your complaining about someone complaining. Two can play that game. But I'm not going to get into debates with the 5K+ posters.  The people who most time of day is spent on a forum masturbating rather than doing the work.  Like Leo said the ones actualizing aren't here to talk about it.  

That's why I said the "forum" is an example of people staying the same. 

Edited January 19, 2019 by alankrillin

[Preetom]

@kieranperez

Remind yourself this once in a while.

You've seemingly got it a lot harder than other average people. Providence won't let you to weasel out or settle down with average things all other people are seemingly doing so easily. There must be a higher purpose behind this.

Providence won't cease nagging you until you reach where it is destined, which is far too extraordinary than what you can imagine right now. Good luck.

[lmfao]

18 hours ago, alankrillin said:

You would think people on a actualized forum would become completely different over years, go from your average salary to riches or be enlightened enough not to want to spend their lives talking about enlightenment on a forum. 

If anything this forum proves to me people can't change. 

They constantly in a state of wanting to change, and in constant mental masturbation. 

 

5 hours ago, alankrillin said:

@Leo Gura

Everything you disagree with is a false limiting belief these days. 

I can literally see accounts of people asking the same questions, arguing the same things, thinking the same thoughts as years ago. 

If you are honest you would say at least half the people are succeeding and the other half not. 

What I'm saying is if you been practicing a hobby for 3 years and you didn't improve or have nothing to show for then that's pretty bad. 

 

Facts

[Lynnel]

6 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Leo Gura how can you outgrow this channel is there anything beyond it?

Theory is limited by its nature in the sense that by itself it does very little to you. For every bit of theory you need 100x times more action and experience to master and apply it.

On top of that, every theory is by itself generic, it's advice relative to the one that gives it, not relative to yourself. You will need to go meta and find theory and adapt it so that it's relevant to you.

In short, you're getting tons of maps from actualized but what matters is your actual navigation experience. It's helpful to have some generic maps not to get too lost, but at some point you gotta chart the waters yourself.

[NoSelfSelf]

@Lynnel yeah true...what i meant what is beyond the concept of self actualization thats like all aspects of life what could be beyond that?

[Joseph Maynor]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@alankrillin I never claimed that everyone is succeeding. I would guess that 90% of people who watch Actualized.org take zero action so they get very little results. It's like watching videos about weightlifting and expecting to get jacked without ever stepping foot in the gym.

This work requires serious intention, motivation, passion, and persistence. By definition, 99% of people will be too lazy and myopic to do it. We are talking about the most advanced wisdom available to mankind. This will not be actualized effortlessly.

But if you want, you can totally transform your life. The choice is yours. How serious are you gonna take it?

It doesn't take 3 years to see results.

If you were serious, in 3 years you could earning hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash or transcend death using the information I've talked about.

The problem isn't that what I say it too good to be true, it's that it's so true you'll hardly believe it when you see it.

I agree with Leo on this.  I'm not speaking about anybody in particular here, this is just based off my own life experience.  Some people are so stubborn that they ignore help when it is handed to them over and over and over again.  It's a willingness to listen, take notes, do the hard work, set up projects, and see those projects to an end that is not equal in every person.  Some people just seem to be on a death-wish for lack of a better term.  You could give this person all the resources in the world, and it's like they just can't get out of their own unhealthy coping-mechanisms and habits.  I find that these people have deep problems that they are either unwilling to tackle or lack the ability to tackle or both.  But Leo is right, you can make as much money as you want to in life.  That's on you, not Leo.  Leo has, I agree, provided us with all the tools we need to get career handled, if that's something you want to put the effort into doing.  If you don't, well then you can always ignore really great advice too, it happens all the time!  I see it all the time.  And I do it too, I'm not taking myself off the hook with this either.  The tool doesn't implement itself, it needs you to put it into use.

Just to show I'm not full of it, here's my list of tangible projects for my Life Purpose Work:

1. Do a small picture life purpose course
2. Work on a book on escaping wage slavery via the independent contractor route
3. Do a course on teaching my scheduling system
4. Get my own website set up
5. Work on personal development book
6. Work on a website that will allow people to contract their services out while working on their personal development
7. Write blog posts
8. Get my own blog set up
9. Learn web development so I can do my own web development as a personal development content provider
10. Help people with career metamorphosis work
11. Become a great writer of personal development materials
12. Do my own career metamorphosis into being a personal development content provider
     

Edited January 19, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[CreamCat]

On 1/20/2019 at 5:16 AM, Joseph Maynor said:

Learn web development

This is a can of worms you don't want to dive too deeply into. You can waste your life just on web development. Currently, web development is going through a tremendous amount of changes. In 10 years, almost everything about web development will change. You don't want to learn something that will become obsolete in 10 years.

If you want to learn web development, learn things that are not going to be replaced in 10 years.

Edited January 21, 2019 by CreamCat

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, CreamCat said:

This is a can of worms you don't want to dive too deeply into. You can waste your life just on web development. Currently, web development is going through a tremendous amount of changes. In 10 years, almost everything about web development will change. You don't want to learn something that will become obsolete in 10 years.

If you want to learn web development, learn things that are not going to be replaced in 10 years.

Thanks.

[CreamCat]

5 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Thanks.

Here's what i would do for web development.

• Learn basics of HTML, CSS, and Javascript because they are important and not going away anytime soon. Also learn some web design.
• Learn to glue reuseable components together. The forum software used by actualized.org forum is a reuseable component that you can glue to your website, too.
• If you have to make a web program, consider functional reactive programming which is a paradigm for writing interactive programs. This paradigm is not going to become obsolete for the next few decades. Web frameworks come and go. But, paradigms last.
  • Personally, I would use haskell for functional reactive programming, but I can't recommend haskell until it becomes possible to compile haskell effortlessly to WebAssembly which is an emerging web standard. Don't consider haskell seriously, yet.
• Minimize the amount of code you have to write. Reuse as much as possible.
• Consider hiring a web developer if you can afford one and want to focus on providing content rather than web development.
  • Leo probably doesn't need to keep a full-time web developer. But, he would hire contractors from time to time.

Edited January 21, 2019 by CreamCat

[Bluebird]

@CreamCat Lol what? Isn't any new and exciting field going to look completely different in ten years?

How will Actualized.org look in ten years? I would guess different than it does now. Doesn't mean it's not working.

Also, your information is a litle more advanced than is going to be useful for a beginner. That being said...

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Consider hiring a web developer if you can afford one and want to focus on providing content rather than web development.

This part is very good advice, a genuine interest in web development is great, but if you don't have that at all or haven't tried it out and are just fantasising. This is realistically a much better solution.

[CreamCat]

12 hours ago, Bluebird said:

This part is very good advice, a genuine interest in web development is great, but if you don't have that at all or haven't tried it out and are just fantasising. This is realistically a much better solution.

Even if you just want to hire a web developer, you need a little bit of knowledge of web development.

For example, if I was looking for a web developer to hire, I would be in a better position to pick one because I know the basics and which programming languages and which programming paradigms are good for web development.

I know which skills are required and desired for a web developer and what I want from a web developer for specific tasks.

Edited January 22, 2019 by CreamCat

[vpandey]

Dude...I feel concerned about you.. But you gotta stop with self-actualisation, consciousness or any of that work for now. Work on returning to a healthier level of baseline. Seek professional help for whatever is bothering you. But it sounds like you are suffering from depression. Here are some steps you can take yourself besides professional help. These are all 'scientifically proven' ways:

• Daily aerobic exercise
• 1 Gram EPA Fish OIL
• Good Sleep routine
• Vitamin D/Sun exposure
• Self Acceptance/Self Love
• Socialising

Do these things everyday for a month and see the changes for yourself if your depression is not too severe. Good luck dude.