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Spiral Dynamics Stage Coral

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Coral consciousness arises in fully integrated individuals or clusters of synergetic people. Their radiance might be so strong that their presence alone would enlighten others. 

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Note: I too, am speculating...

 

@Rufus , I would agree that the 10 Ox Herding Pictures might give us an insight into stage coral. I'd say Spiral Dynamics and the 10 Ox Herding Pictures models sort of start to fuse together at stage turquoise and picture 3/4?

@bejapuskas , what is enlightened blue/green? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.

@Himanshu , I'm really not sure that Mars, machine learning and cyborgs have anything to do with people transitioning into stage coral. Are the enlightened masters waiting for their bionic arms to arrive before they can take their spiritual practice to the next level?

In tier 1, we know that there is a theme of the pendulum swinging from individualistic thinking to community minded thinking. In tier 2, I believe a similar thing occurs, however it's more nuanced. I remember Leo talking about stage yellow being somewhat individualistic while at the same time, still having a community minded awareness and holistic thinking abilities. 


If yellow is individualistic, turquoise would be community minded. This would make coral individualistic. Again, I am speculating, but this might be similar to the Ox Herding Pictures around picture 7/8 ( I can't remember which one exactly) where the enlightened master starts to integrate back into society as if we was like everyone else - because he is. In a sense, coming full circle but with the knowledge and power attained by enlightenment.

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Warning: Speculation ahead 

@iamnotahumanbeing@tenta

I agree that it doesn't have anything to do with artificial intelligence and machine learning but these developments certainly will facilitate the development of the stage. Similar to how Red grew with development of weapons (enhancing one's power to exert force onto others), Blue developed with organized force and the invention of religion to keep the heretics (Red) in check. 

Distribution of Psychedelics (mystical experiences for everyone - "Can you pass the acid test?") had a role in the development of Green and Internet (Free distribution of information) had a role in the development of Yellow. 

Similarly, Artificial intelligence will certainly have a role to play, I cannot be sure what and to what extent. 

A better understanding would come out of comparing SD level with LOC (Level of Consciousness), there is a certain correlation. 

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Warning: further ignorance below...

@Himanshu ,to me, AI at its core is really the continued advancement of stage orange. Along the way, technology has picked/is picking up pearls of wisdom from stage green and yellow, however, will always be grounded in stage orange until profit and commercialisation take a back seat (if ever that happens).

Technology as we understand it today, to my mind, will always require a big dose of stage orange for the advancement to happen in the first place. 

The internet, in its embryonic stage or prior to the commercialisation of the internet, was indeed quite green/yellow. To this day, the internet can still provide such resources for users (for example, I heard some guy called Leo has some sort of forum out there somewhere), however to a large degree, the internet has become one big stage orange turd. The introduction of the GDPR is a sign (amongst others) that organisations have been exploiting people’s privacy, on a global scale, for profit and otherwise - pure stage orange.

I’m not saying the whole internet is pure orange and I’m not saying technology has to be either. I am saying though, that in order for these to develop as they have been, they do need to be somewhat grounded in stage orange. 

For the internet and other technologies to develop onwards and upwards, the users, organisations and regulators that underpin it have to evolve first.

From this standpoint, I still don’t see how technology (AI, cyborgs etc.) have anything to do with helping us transition to stage coral (even turquoise). Rather than the catalyst being ‘coral technology’ that will transition the people to coral, I would say it’s the coral people that will transition the technology to the same level.

Take 2050 for example, Apple and Google, or other for-profit organisations, will probably still have the lion’s share of the AI landscape. It won’t be iPhones, but whatever it is, they’ll still be smashing us with adds and trying to get us to upgrade ever year in order to ‘enrich our lives’ - a slogan stage green, yellow, turquoise and coral people have probably been laughing at for years.

Thoughts?

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Maybe it’s becoming the ego and becoming self deception. 

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As curious as I am about a potential coral, I think a coral video is counter-productive at the collective level. According to spiral theory, one cannot understand two conscious levels higher than where they are centered. Three conscious levels higher is completey beyond any comprehension. There are very few people centered in Yellow. Look at the yellow mega-thread. Very few of those videos are yellow. Recognizing yellow is much easier than actually embodying yellow. That means very few people are yellow centered. Even those few people centered in yellow couldn’t understand coral. So even if a description of coral was possible it would be incomprehensible and misinterpreted. It likely wouldn’t even be verbal. Imagine if Leo just stood there without saying anything. He just stood there staring at the camera. You would be like “wtf is this?”. Little do you know he is on a coral frequency of immaterial photontronic intuition hybridized from three different intersecting dimensions. Coral would be batshit crazy like that. Hundreds of years away kinda stuff. 

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This is a very interesting topic. It is quite possible that Leo already hinted at it in bits and pieces. It's just a matter of asking yourself, "Am I able to relate to it? What is he actually saying here?" For example, Leo used the word "singularity." What does that supposed to mean? Does it have anything to do with enlightenment? In the 10 Ox Herding Pics, what does "Riding the Ox Backwards" mean to you? If you can relate to these things, chances are something profound and meaningful happened to you already. When I say "meaningful," I mean it in a very profound way. Someone didn't just tell you to use a technique, and you follow it, and then something profound happens. It's far more convincing than that. The "feeling" would be more realistic than this world. Another question is: if this ever happens to me, will I be able to apply it in real life, such as through a life purpose? How will I put it out there even though I know most will not be able to relate to it?

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Cut the mental masterbation. Get to Turquoise and then drop this model. Models are meant to eventually be transcended and discarded. 

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