winterknight

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@winterknight I'm interested in hearing your perspective on choice. 

I cannot choose to feel attracted to an obese woman, no matter how hard I try.  I cannot choose to respect someone that I do not respect, no matter how hard I try.  I can go on and on with these examples.  But the bottom line is, it has become obvious to me that I do not really have any choice in this life.  Can you comment on this?

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choice implies a chooser entity -- but what is the chooser other than accumulated thought-memory-experience-knowledge content?  What is the thinker other than thought content?  So choice arises out of thought/the past.

Thought sneakily chooses but doesn't realize it has done so --- thought projects a thinker which falsely assumes it has chosen.  But the thinker and thought are one and the same unitary process.

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@winterknight I just can't find That, whatever it is or is not.. All I'm left is this boring reality, or maybe I'm just depressed. The mind is very still and silent but it can not penetrate the so called "mysteries" of awareness. 

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1 hour ago, Nemo28 said:

@winterknight I just can't find That, whatever it is or is not.. All I'm left is this boring reality, or maybe I'm just depressed. The mind is very still and silent but it can not penetrate the so called "mysteries" of awareness. 

The very thought that it’s boring or that it can’t find it — who thinks that? That’s not silent. Those thoughts are what are keeping the truth away. 

Stay in the true silence, turning all thoughts there, indefinitely, with a curious intensity as to who is thinking those thoughts  

Don’t expect anything, of any kind, at any time, ever.


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2 hours ago, Beginner Mind said:

@winterknight I'm interested in hearing your perspective on choice. 

I cannot choose to feel attracted to an obese woman, no matter how hard I try.  I cannot choose to respect someone that I do not respect, no matter how hard I try.  I can go on and on with these examples.  But the bottom line is, it has become obvious to me that I do not really have any choice in this life.  Can you comment on this?

It is one way of thinking about things, but like any thought it is not absolute truth.

But look, if you do not have any choice, then recognize that and utterly surrender — totally relax, not moving a single mental muscle voluntarily. Let anything happen, any situation, any emotion, any thought, but recognizing that you are not the chooser — simply stay absolutely calm. That thing which IS absolutely calm no matter what choice is chosen, simply be that. 


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9 hours ago, Nahm said:

Damn near absolute cleverness. Well done sir. 

Damn, that took me a while to get. You “higher stage folks” are geniuses ;)

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On ‎2019‎-‎08‎-‎08 at 5:59 PM, winterknight said:

It is one way of thinking about things, but like any thought it is not absolute truth.

But look, if you do not have any choice, then recognize that and utterly surrender — totally relax, not moving a single mental muscle voluntarily. Let anything happen, any situation, any emotion, any thought, but recognizing that you are not the chooser — simply stay absolutely calm. That thing which IS absolutely calm no matter what choice is chosen, simply be that. 

I know intellectually that I am not the chooser, but there is still the illusion of choosing.  I feel responsible.  Even as the heart beats by itself, finger nails and hair grows by itself, and even thoughts appear by themselves, somehow I feel responsible for my life.  Scanning from head to toe, it's obvious that I'm not responsible for the functioning of this body-mind.  And yet, somehow I feel responsible.  Should I just surrender to that?  Is accepting responsibility necessary in order for this body-mind's existence to unfold?

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54 minutes ago, Beginner Mind said:

I know intellectually that I am not the chooser, but there is still the illusion of choosing.  I feel responsible.  Even as the heart beats by itself, finger nails and hair grows by itself, and even thoughts appear by themselves, somehow I feel responsible for my life.  Scanning from head to toe, it's obvious that I'm not responsible for the functioning of this body-mind.  And yet, somehow I feel responsible.  Should I just surrender to that?  Is accepting responsibility necessary in order for this body-mind's existence to unfold?

No, don't surrender "to" that or "to" anything else. Relax the mind. That means don't voluntarily think, except involuntarily. There's no need to "accept" responsibility or "reject" responsibility.

Let the illusion be as it is, or not as it is, or whatever it wants to be. Maintain only that intention not to deliberately think.

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@winterknight Hello kindred spirit :)

So, is it true that in order to find That which I seek, I need to discard my waking state mind(all my sense impressions) , and be open to possibility that non of this is real, and focus my attention to that which I can not know, that which I feel is totally out of this reality? Or should I focus on the awareness and my who is experiencing all this? 

 

Bless you ^^

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3 hours ago, Nemo28 said:

@winterknight Hello kindred spirit :)

So, is it true that in order to find That which I seek, I need to discard my waking state mind(all my sense impressions) , and be open to possibility that non of this is real, and focus my attention to that which I can not know, that which I feel is totally out of this reality? Or should I focus on the awareness and my who is experiencing all this? 

You can't focus your attention on what you cannot know. That's just a concept. So choose the second -- focus on the I. Follow my guide.


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21 hours ago, winterknight said:

No, don't surrender "to" that or "to" anything else. Relax the mind. That means don't voluntarily think, except involuntarily. There's no need to "accept" responsibility or "reject" responsibility.

Let the illusion be as it is, or not as it is, or whatever it wants to be. Maintain only that intention not to deliberately think.

A relaxed/quiet mind is impossible for me.  But thanks for trying to help me.

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1 hour ago, Beginner Mind said:

A relaxed/quiet mind is impossible for me.  But thanks for trying to help me.

You don't need to relax the entire mind. Just your voluntary, deliberate effort. Let whatever thoughts, tension, anger, fear, confusion, etc. arise. You stay in the center, let it all happen. Even "not letting it happen" -- let that happen too.

Another way of putting it is this: if you aren't the chooser, realize that you aren't the chooser. So what else is there to do then? Realize that and be free!


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do you do pranayama? what do you think of it? Some people who study the ancient Ayurveda and other Vedic texts say that it is basically mandatory if you wanna make spiritual progress. But i'm not sure if they are talking more about reaching full human potential, or cutting all the crap and having the 'Big' realization (enlightenment, end of rebirth). 

Have you read any of the Bihar yoga books on meditation and tantra etc?

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After realising the self, does entering Nirvana/Mahasamadhi/full liberation require further purifying of the mind or dissolution of karma? 

In other words, according to spiritual scriptures, will you be reborn again even if you realized the self, until you dissolve all of your karma? 

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^^ I very much want to know about that as well. That was sort of what I was trying to ask with my question on pranayama (since pranayama is apparently a big part of purifying the karmas)

 

coz I've read some people say bla bla its all you, its all an illusion (which would also mean the vast database of the Vedas is an illusion), but then I read people say bla bla its only the beginning of the road (and that the Vedic texts are so utterly advanced, and that it contains literally everything anyone could ever need)

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31 minutes ago, Chi_ said:

After realising the self, does entering Nirvana/Mahasamadhi/full liberation require further purifying of the mind or dissolution of karma? 

In other words, according to spiritual scriptures, will you be reborn again even if you realized the self, until you dissolve all of your karma? 

Now that's a good question :) . But he will probably say. "Self cannot die" or something like that. 

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9 hours ago, passerby said:

do you do pranayama? what do you think of it? Some people who study the ancient Ayurveda and other Vedic texts say that it is basically mandatory if you wanna make spiritual progress. But i'm not sure if they are talking more about reaching full human potential, or cutting all the crap and having the 'Big' realization (enlightenment, end of rebirth). 

Have you read any of the Bihar yoga books on meditation and tantra etc?

Pranayama can be helpful to quiet the mind but it's not necessary to enlightenment. What's necessary is to get an intellectual big picture, do the emotional work to become honest about what you want and pursue it, and do self-inquiry and/or surrender.

Have not read Bihar books.

7 hours ago, Chi_ said:

After realising the self, does entering Nirvana/Mahasamadhi/full liberation require further purifying of the mind or dissolution of karma? 

In other words, according to spiritual scriptures, will you be reborn again even if you realized the self, until you dissolve all of your karma? 

No. Realization of the Self equals immediate annihilation of all karma. Or actually, karma was never there to begin with.

6 hours ago, Salvijus said:

Now that's a good question :) . But he will probably say. "Self cannot die" or something like that. 

Self never lived in the first place.


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What do you think of Sadhguru? Do you think it's good to get initiated by him? Or can I do Kriya Yoga by myself and become enlightened without initiation? 

Another question: How do you think we should live our lives when it comes to career? Right now I'm working in a stable job that I hate, but it gives me security financially. I'm a university drop-out, but I would love to become a spiritual teacher somehow, but if I give up everything I have now, I'm afraid I will fail and die of starvation or similar. I realize it's my ego talking. But generally, should we follow our passions in life even if there is no money in it, or choose a stable career? 

Last question: Have you read Yogananda's "autobiography of a yogi" and do you think the miracles happening in that book are real and have you experienced any for yourself?

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I have this experience when I meditate and I start to dissolve and I start to feel things becoming mystical, all this dark stuff will pop up as sort of feeling or some other sense, not rally any of the typical 5 senses, and it's like a silent voice or "ideas" almost like insights but it's hard for me to tell because I don't have a ton of reference points. I'm not entirely familiar with this phenomena. I will have these waves of stuff like "my worst fears will come true. Or if i continue doing this meditation it's to prepare me for the worst" or other stuff and it feels "real" but it feels bad and scares me and sort of pulls me back down. Is this part of purifying? Goal should be not to be distracted by this stuff and continue to be the observer of the sensation in a calm and un reactive way? I have a feeling I just answered my own question.

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1 hour ago, swedishmystic said:

What do you think of Sadhguru? Do you think it's good to get initiated by him? Or can I do Kriya Yoga by myself and become enlightened without initiation? 

I'm not a fan of Sadhguru. Don't know much about kriya yoga. I recommend self-inquiry and/or surrender in the context of having an intellectual big picture and doing the emotional work on yourself, via therapy and creative expression, to have a quiet mind.

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Another question: How do you think we should live our lives when it comes to career? Right now I'm working in a stable job that I hate, but it gives me security financially. I'm a university drop-out, but I would love to become a spiritual teacher somehow, but if I give up everything I have now, I'm afraid I will fail and die of starvation or similar. I realize it's my ego talking. But generally, should we follow our passions in life even if there is no money in it, or choose a stable career? 

 

You should first aim to realize the Truth yourself before you become a spiritual teacher. Devote yourself to self-inquiry, reading scripture, and so on -- you can do all this while working in your stable job. Generally speaking you should listen to what you emotionally want. I often recommend entering psychoanalysis to all serious seekers for this purpose.
 

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Last question: Have you read Yogananda's "autobiography of a yogi" and do you think the miracles happening in that book are real and have you experienced any for yourself?

 

Haven't read it. I suspect seeming miracles can happen, and have seen some of the "telepathic" type I think. But miracles have nothing to do with enlightenment.

1 hour ago, SunnyNewDay said:

I have this experience when I meditate and I start to dissolve and I start to feel things becoming mystical, all this dark stuff will pop up as sort of feeling or some other sense, not rally any of the typical 5 senses, and it's like a silent voice or "ideas" almost like insights but it's hard for me to tell because I don't have a ton of reference points. I'm not entirely familiar with this phenomena. I will have these waves of stuff like "my worst fears will come true. Or if i continue doing this meditation it's to prepare me for the worst" or other stuff and it feels "real" but it feels bad and scares me and sort of pulls me back down. Is this part of purifying? Goal should be not to be distracted by this stuff and continue to be the observer of the sensation in a calm and un reactive way? I have a feeling I just answered my own question.

Yup. If you want you can write about it too -- and in fact you just did that too. And you can see how writing about it helps clarify it. You just experienced it.

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