Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Turquoise Examples Mega-Thread

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Probably the most advanced intellectual of the last century in regards to the spiral. 

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Trevor Ilesly. Small youtuber with 40k subs. I think he is stage turquoise and worth checking out. 

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First tiny steps into turquoise?  what do you guys think. (please watch some of his videos and after that judge so you don't have the knee jerk reaction that he is talking about Christianity and Jesus so he is instantly blue.) 


“The decisive question for man is: Is he related to something infinite or not? That is the telling question of his life. Only if we know that the thing which truly matters is the infinite can we avoid fixing our interests upon futilities, and upon all kinds of goals which are not of real importance. Thus we demand that the world grant us recognition for qualities which we regard as personal possessions: our talent or our beauty. The more a man lays stress on false possessions, and the less sensitivity he has for what is essential, the less satisfying is his life. He feels limited because he has limited aims, and the result is envy and jealousy. If we understand and feel that here in this life we already have a link with the infinite, desires and attitudes change.” - Carl Jung

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On 2019-04-09 at 1:32 AM, kieranperez said:

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Dhyanalinga temple?

 

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Be careful. Just because someone is a mystic or is enlightened does not automatically put them at Turquoise.

The whole point of Spiral Dynamics is to differentiate between stages of development and awakening. They are not always correlated.

Don't just assume that your favorite sage/mystic is Turquoise.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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This is the orange of the 1950s, a very popular song back then. Unfortunately, oranges are just shooting stars. If you start a life purpose too orange, it'll also be a shooting star. To make a LP last throughout time, it probably must be a mixture of orange to turquoise. This story contains a Satori waiting to be realized.

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I see a lot of people put in Teal Swan Videos. She is not Turquoise. She should be put into the Cult Thread.

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@Pullmyfinger I've seen a few of her videos and get that she's probably not turquois (more green) but why do you put her in a cult section?

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At around 2:26 of Jay's clip, I do suspect that when he said,

"We want to keep chasing love, but we don't actually want to fall into it,"

I highly suspect that this is a pointer to the Satori. Fall into it refers to becoming the No-self and transforming and falling back into your ego, which of course is your body & the world. Then, there is this massive bliss for the ego, indicating to the ego that it is in the to love realm, which is earth. That means our purpose has to be aligned with love when we go through life. Life is the school. Hopefully, we will learn this lesson, apply it, and graduate from life.

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@Neorez I wouldn't even put her in Green. If you just spend a little time checking out her content on youtube you can clearly see that she has psychological issues, she spent 13 years in an abusive cult before she escaped. You don't just leave a cult like that and have no issues, There are lots of allegations against her. If you just spend a small bit time doing research on her you can see she is a Fake. she has all the spiritual lingo to impress but she probably learned all of this when she was in her cult. She might not have Cult yet but its heading that way or maybe its already happening. These Types of Fake spiritual teachers are very dangerous because they can confuse people and lead them off the path and can cause a lot of damage. 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Teal_Swan

 

 

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On 4/25/2019 at 4:49 PM, Leo Gura said:

Be careful. Just because someone is a mystic or is enlightened does not automatically put them at Turquoise.

The whole point of Spiral Dynamics is to differentiate between stages of development and awakening. They are not always correlated.

Don't just assume that your favorite sage/mystic is Turquoise.

Leo, one question. Although Shinzen Young was saying in a video that there are many facets of the 10 Ox Herding Pics, one can't just interpret it whatever way he/she wants or feels like it. It is metaphoric of enlightenment. It will only make sense if it's realized. What do you think? :)

I asked because someone in the forum said that this story is "exclusive." Well, he's right in a way because paradoxically, we are all enlightened. In that case, why even bother looking at the 10 Ox Herding Pics? Surely, there has to be a good reason for the 10 Ox Herding Pics to be written like that and pointing to something. Otherwise, it wouldn't exist.

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Incredibly good Netflix show; just watched the second season. 

Green/yellow/turquoise

 

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