Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Yellow Examples Mega-Thread

1,196 posts in this topic

I think the main achievement of stage yellow is realizing that man's mind alone has the capacity for so much... so f-ing much in this world. Then they demonstrated how to do precisely that (in their own way and so on.)

Also I think only stage yellow and turquoise understood this simple truth, about the powerful capabilities of the human mind. 

 

Edited by Megan Alecia

"We are like the spider. We weave our life and then move along in it. We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream. This is true for the entire universe."

-- The Upanishads

Encyclopedia

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 11/25/2020 at 8:57 AM, DocWatts said:

Not sure if Bertrand Russel has been mentioned on this thread or not, but here he offers a Yellow perspective on the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche (whose philosophy is a Red/Orange deconstruction of Blue).

Near the end of the clip, he uses a thought experiment of an imagined conversation between Nietzsche and the Budda as a framework for exploring the ethical ramifications of Nietzsche's philosophy. 

 

 

From that clip, it sounds like Nietzsche would’ve loooooooooved Trump.

But it still sounds to me like this is a stage orange guy having a thought experiment. I’m certainly glad it includes Buddha and reduction of suffering, though!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, Willie said:

From that clip, it sounds like Nietzsche would’ve loooooooooved Trump.

But it still sounds to me like this is a stage orange guy having a thought experiment. I’m certainly glad it includes Buddha and reduction of suffering, though!

I think Nietzsche probably would have been more of a Putin fanboy than a Trump Cultist, since I think he would at least prefer his autocrats to be competent. But alas...

I would quibble with the Orange label for Bertrand Russel though; if you're unfamiliar with Bertrand Russel, just take a look at the wikipedia entry for him sometime, certainly doesn't read at all like someone at Orange. Probably much closer to someone like Noam Chomskey if you're looking for someone who's kind of similar.

From Wikipedia (Bold here is mine for emphasis):

Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell OM FRS[68] (18 May 1872 – 2 February 1970) was a British polymath, philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, writer, social critic, political activist, and Nobel laureate.[69][70] Throughout his life, Russell considered himself a liberal, a socialist and a pacifist, although he also sometimes suggested that his sceptical nature had led him to feel that he had "never been any of these things, in any profound sense".[71] 

His work has had a considerable influence on mathematics, logic, set theory, linguistics, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, computer science (see type theory and type system) and philosophy, especially the philosophy of language, epistemology and metaphysics.

Russell was a prominent anti-war activist, championed anti-imperialism, and chaired the India League.[75][76][77] Occasionally, he advocated preventive nuclear war, before the opportunity provided by the atomic monopoly had passed and he decided he would "welcome with enthusiasm" world government.[78] He went to prison for his pacifism during World War I.[79] Later, Russell concluded that the war against Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany was a necessary "lesser of two evils" and also criticised Stalinist totalitarianism, condemned the involvement of the United States in the Vietnam War and was an outspoken proponent of nuclear disarmament.[80]


I'm writing a philosophy book! Check it out at : https://7provtruths.org/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Example of how radical open-mindedness can make you more effective at changing the world. 

Edited by Raze

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

eee.jpg

Stage yellow on green


"We are like the spider. We weave our life and then move along in it. We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream. This is true for the entire universe."

-- The Upanishads

Encyclopedia

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think this guy is entering stage yellow . This video is yellow through stage orange structure . 

He explains orange and green ideas , and what makes me think that he is entering yellow is because he is talking from personal experience.  He is understanding the structures of these ideas , he is understanding the system . There is a big difference between belief and personal experience.  He is also trying to get into poor people (mindset) shoes (in hes own arogant way hehe). Etc. 

I assume all this because he is me . This is my understanding projected onto him . To understend yellow is to be at yellow . And every understanding is relative and subjecive !  I love it ! 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Yellow helping orange evolve too green !  This guy is Amazing ! 

Life Journey is real, but we need to go inward. We need(If we want to) to raise our consciousness . There is no external journey . We are the journey . But through "external life journey" (selfactualization) we find out that it is an illusion . 

 

Why this is a good idea for orange to evolving into green . 

In this case orange believes that life journey is external materialistic world where we chase for rewords that stage orange ego wants , but doesent realize that they are living an illusion(in this case ideology) that is created by orange society ego .

The best way to emerge into green and integrate it is to :

1. see that this way of seeing the life journey is not fulfilling and stop exhausting your self with orange values by deconstructing them

2. throw away your mask and integrate your shadow 

3. and comfort your self  in a way better feeling ideology ( im integrating green, oh it feels so nice / in compering it to my orange believes that im invastigating, and that are stoping me relex and embrace my femenine  )

This is why I named my channel Alchemy 21. sentry 

I will try and introduce orange to green values , by making them integrate orange first . People in Serbia are not so high on the spiral and masllow hierarchy ( ther are not educated for healthy blue , ogrange values, and ofcourse cant study because they are trying to survive the narcisitic toxic country). They are highly blue and forced into orange by the marketing . So if you mix green values in orange structures as a belief it might work . I will try out that system . ( correct me if im wrong , Im just starting to learn about SD). What do you think about that idea ? Thank you Actualized.org , you helped me find my LP <3

This video also remaids me of misinterpretation of blue and below on the spiral of the alchemical process where you chaise for gold, and luckily realize that  it was there where you started hahah full circle And then you truely understand what the Alchemists or Mistics were talking about ! Ahaaaa, it is just like in the book "The Alchemist " , this is why this book moved me emotionally so much ! I was looking for enlightenment!  And thanks too Actualized.org I now had more  then 10 mystical experiences! <3

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The way the lyrics were written reminds me of Yellow :D:

Talk, it's only talk
Arguments, agreements, advice, answers,
Articulate announcements
It's only talk

Talk, it's only talk
Babble, burble, banter, bicker bicker bicker
Brouhaha, boulder dash, ballyhoo
It's only talk
Back talk

Talk talk talk, it's only talk
Comments, cliches, commentary, controversy
Chatter, chit-chat, chit-chat, chit-chat,
Conversation, contradiction, criticism
It's only talk
Cheap talk

Talk, talk, it's only talk
Debates, discussions
These are words with a D this time
Dialogue, duologue, diatribe,
Dissention, declamation
Double talk, double talk

Talk, talk, it's all talk
Too much talk
Small talk
Talk that trash
Expressions, editorials, expugnations, exclamations, enfadulations
It's all talk
Elephant talk, elephant talk, elephant talk

Edited by Carl-Richard

Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The epitome of a Yellow dialogue:

It's long, but notice how distinctly non-ideological and self-aware it is. Tier 2 stuff.

Notice how different Yellow is from Green.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I honestly don't really undersatnd what Yellow is.Let me know if that was a shitty example.

 


I'm not friendly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

@Leo Gura would you classify Weinstein as yellow? I know the left aren’t big fans of him 

He's pretty Yellow.

Green progressives too quickly dismiss him because they confuse him with Orange and not being Green enough. Classic pre/trans fallacy.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He's pretty Yellow.

Green progressives too quickly dismiss him because they confuse him with Orange and not being Green enough. Classic pre/trans fallacy.

 

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He's pretty Yellow.

Green progressives too quickly dismiss him because they confuse him with Orange and not being Green enough. Classic pre/trans fallacy.

Yeah listening to the podcast he’s definitely quite a sophisticated thinker. So is the Charisma on Command guy

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I shouldn't have to share that I'm black but because of what I'm sharing below, context is important. Been stage green for the past 15 years or so (starting late high school), funny enough a few years ago when I was learning and practicing advaita vedanta was also consuming self orange material to have the tools needed to become financially independent...anyway, went down the alt right rabbit hole out of curiosity and began to understand how "evil" can be rationalized with logic. Certain facts about the material world are denied and discussing these in stage green circles results in accusations of being lower in the spiral and less developed. 

However, 2 years ago, I stumbled upon the Glenn Loury Show (often featuring John McWhorter), two ivy league professors (Glenn Loury- Economics,  & John McWhorter- Linguistics) whose podcast has been running for nearly 15 years and is the best stage yellow material I have come across when it comes to race. And for the record, neither of them are republican though Glenn Loury used to be until the mid 90s. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now