Spiral Dynamics Stage Orange Examples Mega-Thread

[Spiral Wizard]

Lmfao 

 

[tenta]

Nothing about what JP is saying is new or revolutionary, he is just defending previous beliefs from new beliefs, but to people agreeing with him it won't seem that way because they've already readied their mental gymnastics, so believing Jordan Peterson is revolutionary or very original isn't difficult, it's well self-serving

There is no good argument here for why the hierarchies are based on competence, just believing the people at the top of the hierarchy (about their claims of being higher IQ than others etc.) and demonizing people who don't believe them (that he calls neo-marxists)

[SoothedByRain]

Blue/Orange

[tenta]

 

[Ferdi Le]

On 27.12.2019 at 0:27 PM, Spiral Wizard said:

Lmfao 

 

This is perfect!!

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Ferdi Le said:

Lmfao 

 

"It's hard to get a man to understand a thing when his job depends on him not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

A perfect example of how ideology, survival, and self-bias work hand in hand. It's hard to get a Wall Street guy to understand the evils of Wall Street.

[Ferdi Le]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

"It's hard to get a man to understand a thing when his job depends on him not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

A perfect example of how ideology, survival, and self-bias work hand in hand. It's hard to get a Wall Street guy to understand the evils of Wall Street.

Love it. You should have mentioned the quote in Wage Slavery video

Edited January 15, 2020 by Ferdi Le

[EddieEddie1995]

This is brilliant ! Perfect example ! LOL

 

 

[tenta]

Notice how Jordan chose regular citizens as his lab rats that should stop climate change, not billionaires?

I am now really convinced of Leo's "the leftist psyche is more mature, more evolved than the right wing one" after seeing that applause, it came out of nowhere so I thought for a second if I was watching some other video in another tab

[Apparition of Jack]

@tenta This man is such a grifter 

[Leo Gura]

22 hours ago, tenta said:

I am now really convinced of Leo's "the leftist psyche is more mature, more evolved than the right wing one"

That should be plainly obvious when you watch how conservatives defend Trump and war.

They operate from an entirely different (and lower) level of consciousness.

Anyone who advocates for war gives himself away right away. That tells you who they are. A highly conscious being would never advocate for war.

To be fair, plenty of centrist neoliberals also advocate for war. They are slightly more evolved, but not by much.

Also the nationalism is a dead givaway of low consciousness. Nationalism is what gives rise to the racism, xenophobia, homophobia, mysogeny, culture wars, and fascistic/authoritarian leanings.

Why do all the Republican Senators support Trump's brazen illegality and devilry? Because in their heart they like the notion of a strongman / authoritarian, as long as he is THEIR authoritarian. So they follow like sheep.

Liberals are less inclined to behave this way. Liberals are less conformist, more free-thinking (even though they still of course get trapped in group-think).

Studies show that liberals have higher openmindedness. Which is a key dimension of consciousness. You can't be conscious and closedminded at the same time.

[Torch]

Orange/green anarchist's thoughts on religion

 

[UnbornTao]

A funny read on RationalWiki about Leo Gura. Enjoy:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leo_Gura

“Since Gura's arguments and beliefs are mostly unsubstantiated, usually preposterous, and sometimes outright demonstrably false, the way in which he manages to convince anyone that he's talking sense is through his rhetoric.”

[Recursoinominado]

 

Just watched this movie and it does a great job depicting stage orange mentality: super materialist to the point of fucking up his whole life to earn some money for money sake, rat race, stressed all the time, totally dependent on external events in order to know what to feel (happy when earn money, sad when don't) etc.

It's a good movie, a little hard to watch if you are an empath and stage above orange as the movie intentionally gives you a feeling of anxiety most of the time. 

[Derek White]

I can’t believe no one posted my man Patrick Bet David from Valuetainment. His channel is truly amazing for integrating orange or just learning from skilled people. He is solid ? .

 

[Derek White]

Hasan Minhaj is partly green but is still dominantly orange. His comedy style of packing as many jokes as he can, love for New York and hustle, immigrant mindset, competitiveness, and his way of dressing and talking is indicative of orange values. This is what late stage orange looks like.

Compare his comedy to George Carlin’s and you can see a very big difference. Hasan’s comedy feels like he said, “okay, I’m going to do everything tangible to be a better comedian.” Whereas George is like, “I’m just going to speak about my observations.”

 

Edited February 6, 2020 by Derek White

[Derek White]

On 2018-06-24 at 3:09 AM, Leo Gura said:

bro culture

@Leo Gura Isn’t bro culture red? 

It has alpha/beta, victim/oppressor dynamics which should fall under purple and red right?

Also, when is stage red video coming out?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Derek White said:

I can’t believe no one posted my man Patrick Bet David from Valuetainment. His channel is truly amazing for integrating orange or just learning from skilled people. He is solid ? .

 

Ugh... just seeing that title and thumbnail makes me want to vomit.

47 minutes ago, Derek White said:

@Leo Gura Isn’t bro culture red? 

It has alpha/beta, victim/oppressor dynamics which should fall under purple and red right?

Also, when is stage red video coming out?

No, most bros I know are pretty solid Orange. At least in urban parts of America.

Red is pretty rare these days in developed parts of the world.

The difference between Orange and Red is that Orange will posture about being macho and alpha and may start a drunken bar fight, while Red will stab you in the throat with a fork and strangle your dog.

Joe Pesci from Casino, that's Red:

Don't fuck with Red.

[Derek White]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Ugh... just seeing that title and thumbnail makes me want to vomit.

I mean he’s got sone good content like interviews with Kobe, ex criminals, Deepak Chopra and this guy who is a world champion in memory. His ideology is pretty shit though. 

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference between Orange and Red is that Orange will posture about being macho and alpha and may start a drunken bar fight, while Red will stab you in the throat with a fork and strangle your dog.

I do remember this series of incidents which took place in grade 6 where some random student got hold of others notebooks and ripped each individual page into tiny pieces and hid the destroyed notebook in the class. It was pure hate and jealousy. No one found out who it was. So maybe that was stage red. Other than that I don’t think I know any stage red people.

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Derek White said:

I don’t think I know any stage red people.

Trump. At least partially. He's not a violent Red, but still.