When you are enlightened - Do "you" remember "who" "you" once were?

[MarkusSweden]

This is a very i interesting question. 

When you Transcend your ego, you transcend your whole story. And you transcend thoughts about "who" you are. 

And once enlightened, when you rest in presence, when you live in the NOW, do you even remember "who" "you" once were???

Because if you die ego death and become enlightened But remember who you use to be, then you at least have the memory. 

But if you will lose every trace of who you were, not even have a singel memory what it was like to be that ego, Then you really really die when you become enlightened  I don't know if I want to die in such a complete way, at least I want to have a memory what it was like to be me. To end the story scare me very much. 

Is it any middle way to become enlightened, where you can Keep the story of "you" and only kill the other parts of the ego?

 

Edited June 19, 2018 by MarkusSweden

[White]

@MarkusSweden

Don't worry, you're not going anywhere.

Nobody kills the ego completely. Not that I've ever heard of. 

We can have many many experiences of enlightenment, none of them last, but they deepen your life and suffering becomes less and less and less. 

That's it. 

[MarkusSweden]

@White Sounds great! 

Off topic:

Funny how we both have profile pictures of music icons of the 60's. ?

You think Joplin and Lennon ever met? Maybe they known eachother.. 

Edited June 19, 2018 by MarkusSweden

[White]

@MarkusSweden

I don't know. 

Research it, then come back and let us know

[Joseph Maynor]

Yep.  Just the same.  Same dude, just much wiser and comfortable being me.  People have all kinds of fantasies about Enlightenment that are really a noob thing.  Things change but then also don’t change with Enlightenment.  I am the same dude I was before I ‘became Enlightened’.

Edited June 19, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Lucas Lousada]

There are some audible guides to "past lives" memories.. but its odd how "past lives" could exist.. as you are "living all of your possible lives" at the same moment..

But you could try understand your life as a an inversely proportional life of  "someone else" and you could be directly connected.

Like a quantum entanglement... and this could be what you call your "past life"

[furashido]

2 hours ago, MarkusSweden said:

This is a very i interesting question. 

When you Transcend your ego, you transcend your whole story. And you transcend thoughts about "who" you are. 

And once enlightened, when you rest in presence, when you live in the NOW, do you even remember "who" "you" once were???

Because if you die ego death and become enlightened But remember who you use to be, then you at least have the memory. 

But if you will lose every trace of who you were, not even have a singel memory what it was like to be that ego, Then you really really die when you become enlightened  I don't know if I want to die in such a complete way, at least I want to have a memory what it was like to be me. To end the story scare me very much. 

Is it any middle way to become enlightened, where you can Keep the story of "you" and only kill the other parts of the ego?

 

You remember your former selves as a separate beings. Like lifes on autopilot that you have observed without interfering. You feel compassion for that being and the suffering it had to experience. And yes, unfortionatly, they die. It’s hard to understand it from the opposite end.

Edited June 19, 2018 by furashido

[Nahm]

@MarkusSweden There are no whos. Seperate entities are illusionary.  Try to remember “you” from years ago. There’s no who there, just memories of experiences, which are also illusionary. 

[White]

2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yep.  Just the same.  Same dude, just much wiser and comfortable being me.  People have all kinds of fantasies about Enlightenment that are really a noob thing.  Things change but then also don’t change with Enlightenment.  I am the same dude I was before I ‘became Enlightened’.

We have this

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

@MarkusSweden There are no whos. Seperate entities are illusionary.  Try to remember “you” from years ago. There’s no who there, just memories of experiences, which are also illusionary. 

And then we have this!

Completely opposite versions of enlightenment.  One of you had got to be bullshitting. Which one is It? No offence, but both of you can't be fucking right! Come on, what's the truth? I'm inclined to think the first one is real. 

Edited June 20, 2018 by White

[Joseph Maynor]

10 minutes ago, White said:

We have this

And then we have this!

Completely opposite versions of enlightenment.  One of you had got to be bullshitting. Which one is It? No offence, but both of you can't be fucking right! Come on, what's the truth? I'm inclined to think the first one is real. 

You are judging things very superficially and you don’t even realize it.  The only relevant question for you is whether you're enlightened. 

Edited June 20, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[White]

@Joseph Maynor ok. Obviously i dont realize it, if i did i woulnt be doing it. I'm open to coaching. What am I missing?

As I said I don't think anyone can reach enlightenment, but can utilize enlightenment experiences to grow. 

Edited June 20, 2018 by White

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, White said:

@Joseph Maynor ok. Obviously i dont realize it, if i did i woulnt be doing it. I'm open to coaching. What am I missing?

That’s what you need to go on a journey to find.  It’s called studying Enlightenment.  Leo has a bunch of videos on it.

[White]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

That’s what you need to go on a journey to find.  It’s called studying Enlightenment.  Leo has a bunch of videos on it.

You said in one of your posts that yellow is enlightenment.

That's not my true from my research because yellow is still an ego stage. Plus there is further development to be gained. The level past turquoise is sometimes called unitive and that's been shown to correlate to the bodhisattva stage (still ego)

Edited June 20, 2018 by White

[Guest Quanty]

After awakening, it is a complete shift in everything in one's being. One can see all the past and all the ancestors, one can identify with every living and not living things. From a point of view of the ego, one sees reincarnation. From higher perspectives, there is no reincarnation. Because you never lived before so to speak, in this configuration of body/mind. Others different, unique, bodies/minds existed before you. We all identify with the source, only a few are conscious of the source. People can conceptualize enlightenment as much as they want and claim they are everything, I speak from a perspective of practice and experience, that is a totally different point of view, and I don't hope to be understood, is more, I really don't care what others have to say about me, eventually some with get what I say after they awaken 

[Joseph Maynor]

11 minutes ago, Quanty said:

After awakening, it is a complete shift in everything in one's being. One can see all the past and all the ancestors, one can identify with every living and not living things. From a point of view of the ego, one sees reincarnation. From higher perspectives, there is no reincarnation. Because you never lived before so to speak, in this configuration of body/mind. Others different, unique, bodies/minds existed before you. We all identify with the source, only a few are conscious of the source. People can conceptualize enlightenment as much as they want and claim they are everything, I speak from a perspective of practice and experience, that is a totally different point of view, and I don't hope to be understood, is more, I really don't care what others have to say about me, eventually some with get what I say after they awaken 

That’s quite a story.

[Saumaya]

1 hour ago, White said:

We have this

And then we have this!

Completely opposite versions of enlightenment.  One of you had got to be bullshitting. Which one is It? No offence, but both of you can't be fucking right! Come on, what's the truth? I'm inclined to think the first one is real. 

Context.....

[Prabhaker]

5 hours ago, MarkusSweden said:

And once enlightened, when you rest in presence, when you live in the NOW, do you even remember "who" "you" once were???

I haven't heard about any enlightened person who couldn't remember his past. Many of them tell about their past lives and past lives of others. 

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Prabhaker said:

I haven't heard about any enlightened person who couldn't remember his past. Many of them tell about their past lives and past lives of others. 

That’s because you live in a culture where Reincarnation is part of the collective Conceptual Understanding.  It’s in the air so to speak.  

Edited June 20, 2018 by Joseph Maynor

[Guest Quanty]

WoW, the dormant still claim awakening is trivial and is just something little that happens to you hahaha...

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Quanty said:

WoW, the dormant still claim awakening is trivial and is just something little that happens to you hahaha...

Things come full circle with deep Enlightenment.  Nobody said anything was trivial — that’s your overhasty judgment of a few words you read.  

Edited June 20, 2018 by Joseph Maynor