Dream

This entire quest for truth is pure masturbation

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Why do you care about the truth? The truth is inside the universe because there's no outside, so the truth is part of the absolute. It has no greater or lower value than any other concept. It literally doesn't matter if you get to the truth or not. It may feel like it does but so does any other activity you're doing like eating or working.

Literally everything you are doing, including chasing the truth is just masturbation. Even direct experience is visual/sensory masturbation. Here i am going to argue that even doing nothing is masturbation. Your entire life is a masturbatory experience.

You're just a chimp jacking off to advanced concepts. I've been browsing this forum for a while and i am literally laughing out loud at this chimpery. People really think there's anything to be understood here.

Even this thread is pure masturbation. You're now going to try to defeat or understand this entire argument so you can feel better about your little quest.

 

Admit it, you're just a little chimp in need of the truth so you can feel some sort of superiority over others and think that you understood something. Even saying something like i don't understand anything is admitting you understood that you don't understand everything , so you now know that you don't know everything as opposed to the other chimp claiming that he knows everything. You both want to be right in a sense. You're both trying to understand, grasp, get to '' it '' .

A great metaphor would be ; You're inside a dream and you become lucid , then you try to understand how the dream appeared, who created it, when it was created and what is the substance of it and how to be at peace with it, how to become one with it and who's experiencing it and what happens when the dreams ends , not realizing you're using tools of the dream to understand the dream.

What i am claiming is that there is nothing to be understood, the value of this thread is 0, just like your existence. This thread is the most pointless thread there is, there's nothing to grasp. There's nowhere to go and nothing to do. There is no enlightenment , there is no awakening, gaining more knowledge and more power is just more masturbation. Everything is just a different form of masturbation. All there is is masturbation.

This is it, there's literally nothing here. Your entire life and the entire lives of everyone is entirely pointless. There is no point, life is just itself masturbating to itself conceptually and actually. Every video of Leo is pure masturbation. He's an awesome masturbator and that's why he earned a good amount of subscribers on Youtube, and we all masturbate with him every Sunday when he releases a new video.

Leo Gura is just another 0 masturbating on his carpet by breathing in and out trying out different masturbation techniques. And i am the same thing, this thread is my way to masturbate. So to put it simply, i just masturbated by writing this thread.

 

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I agree with you sincerely.

Now, I have to masturbate too. 

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there is no path, but only a fool doesn't walk it :P


whatever arises, love that

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This a brief sum-up of a conversation I had few weeks ago on phone, with someone channeling my higher-self :

I said *insert random question about spirituality here*

I've heard :

"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" (they're having fun watching us).

The guy who was channeling, said afterward that there are only childs in the kingdom of light, that's why they react this way.

Then he said : your "happy quest" or every concepts you know about spirituality, belong to earth and will return to earth.

(Through the laugh, I've received love in my chest - that persisted since that day).

That being said, I don't care... I do my quest, it's awesome.

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I'll kill you with my teacup -Riddick

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So, what happens after a person passes away?

Answer: Masturbation.

(This doesn't sound like the correct answer. Do we suffer or not? What's our karma?)

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42 minutes ago, Dream said:

So to put it simply, i just masturbated by writing this thread.

 

Did you cum?

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Yes everything in life is pointless, but it goes full circle, you can make your life passionate by becoming passionate about something, if all else fails, then simple staying alive will be your current goal until you die.

Nothing is known for certain, everyone talks only of their beliefs and opinions, in most cases failing to realize this, it's only the ego that conceptualizes, talks, and finds insights.

You use the tools when you need them in your direct experience, only an idiot tries to carry the row boat after he's done using it to cross the river.

Got anger issues and frustration? - Meditate.

Want to see reality from different perspectives? - Self Enquire.

Want to date a hot person? - Learn pick up and socialise.

Want to get fit and look in shape? Exercise.

Want to make money? Work hard, and make business.

You're God, and the universe is your playground, do whatever the hell you want, if you want to check out early, that's up to you too, everything can be pointless, or it can be as meaningful that you would sacrifice your own life for a cause (as many people have in the past).

It's up to you.

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5 minutes ago, blazed said:

Yes everything in life is pointless, but it goes full circle, you can make your life passionate by becoming passionate about something, if all else fails, then simple staying alive will be your current goal until you die.

Nothing is known for certain, everyone talks only of their beliefs and opinions failing to realize this, it's on the ego that conceptualizes, talks, finds insights.

You use the tools when you need them in your direct experience, only an idiot tries to carry the row boat after he's done using it to cross the river.

Got anger issues and frustration? - Meditate.

Want to see reality from different perspectives? - Self Enquire.

Want to date a hot person? - Learn pick up and socialise.

Want to get fit and look in shape? Excercise.

Want to make money? Work hard, and make business.

You're God, the universe is your playground, do whatever the hell you want, if you want to check out early, that's up to you too, everything can be pointless, or it can be as meaningful that you would sacrafice your own life for a cause (as many have in the past).

It's up to you.

Everything you just said is pointing towards more masturbation. Of course you can give meaning to your life but what is that? More masturbation. You will masturbate until the day you die. Every single action, including the post you just wrote is masturbation.

 

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Why so negative? Replace "masturbation" for example with "love" or "beautiful love":

Literally everything you are doing, including chasing the truth is just beautiful love. Even direct experience is visual/sensory beautiful love. Here i am going to argue that even doing nothing is beautiful love. Your entire life is a beautiful loving experience. You're just a chimp loving beautiful advanced concepts. Even this thread is pure beautiful love. Everything is just a different form of beautiful love. All there is is beautiful love.

There is no point, life is just itself beautifully loving itself conceptually and actually. Every video of Leo is pure beautiful love. He's an awesome lover and that's why he earned a good amount of subscribers on Youtube, and we all going to love it when he releases a new beautiful video.

Leo Gura is just another 0 sitting his beautiful carpet making love by breathing in and out trying out different loving techniques. And i am the same thing, this thread is my way to love. So to put it simply, i just had a beautiful loving experience by writing this thread.

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Just now, Dream said:

Everything you just said is pointing towards more masturbation. Of course you can make life valuable for yourself but what is that? More masturbation. You will masturbate until the day you die.

Fair enough, all you've done is change labels of "doing stuff" and "life goals" into "masturbation".

Think of spirituality as a set of tools to help you in your inner journey and inner problems, such as emotions, compulsions, bad habits, realizing your fundamental nature, etc. you can become your own therapist.

For outer (external) problems, like money yeah spirituality won't help at all unless you become a guru or teacher and make some sort of income doing that.

In other words you labeling things as masturbation is kind of like you looking down on everything as "pointless" but you are the one who is making that decision, it's pointless because you are saying it's pointless, if that's not what you want, then work on becoming passionate about something.

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yes, that is exactly what Alan Watts said - all people are doing with the religious and spiritual game is chasing after a new candy bar - only this time its a spiritual candy bar. The ego just moves itself to a higher level and identifies with your "higher self". There is no truth, and people who realize the truth also realize how absolutely worthless it is. What I believe is - evolution is based on deception. A person who is better able to deceive himself is a person better equipped to cheat other beings and exploit the patterns in the environment (in evolutionary terms this is called fitness) - thus better able to survive (see research done by Donald Hoffman). So as "advanced" chimps, we are far better at deceiving ourselves than ants. In far, let me take this further, and say that the task of the universe or the eventual outcome is a living entity that is so exceptionally capable of deceiving itself - that it can generate an entirely new complex reality inside its own head - a new universe. And this is just like the simulation argument - you are making a system which will eventually tend to produce more systems that do the same time - simulations within simulations. 


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39 minutes ago, blazed said:

Fair enough, all you've done is change labels of "doing stuff" and "life goals" into "masturbation".

Think of spirituality as a set of tools to help you in your inner journey and inner problems, such as emotions, compulsions, bad habits, realizing your fundamental nature, etc. you can become your own therapist.

For outer (external) problems, like money yeah spirituality won't help at all unless you become a guru or teacher and make some sort of income doing that.

In other words you labeling things as masturbation is kind of like you looking down on everything as "pointless" but you are the one who is making that decision, it's pointless because you are saying it's pointless, if that's not what you want, then work on becoming passionate about something.

I've already achieved what you would call success in real life. I think you should go back to the self-actualization section of this forum. Here i am talking about the truth and the absolute, not the little details of life like having a career or having a spouse and children and a nice house. I thought this section of this forum was for people looking for the absolute truth and i am here to unveil that even that is equal to everything else in life. You're trying to understand reality inside reality. You cannot do that, you can only experience it. Hence why i use the word masturbation.

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Let me throw away my life purpose because it's just masturbation.

Let me throw away every single source of joy in my life because it's just masturbation.

Let me go to your house and murder your whole family it's masturbation anyway.

Let me @vanish into the group of people who committed suicide on this forum because it is the only way to end masturbation.

Duuuude. Fucking chill.

This post genuinely made me angry. I get it. Everything is infinitely pointless but this does not stop me from living a purposeful and happy life - or to please my ego if you that's what you want to hear. This may just show the depth of my ignorance to you but you need to see that development is gradual. You can't just slap an aspiring meditator in the face telling him "It's masturbation, stop it!". If you do he may never grasp this proclaimed truth of yours.

45 minutes ago, Dream said:

Here i am talking about the truth and the absolute, not the little details of life like having a career or having a spouse and children and a nice house. I thought this section of this forum was for people looking for the absolute truth and i am here to unveil that even that is equal to everything else in life.

You are committing the same mistake as you accuse everybody else of making - and I commit as well by clicking that "Submit Reply" button and showing you how undeveloped I am. If you truly embodied what you say here you would shut up and leave this post here - and the only way to say that is to commit the exact same thing I accuse you of not understanding.


With every action, the Ego is seeking God with the best of its ability.

Authenticity is the source of all spiritual purification.

Love is the strongest antidote to separation.

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45 minutes ago, Torkys said:

Duuuude. Fucking chill.

This post genuinely made me angry. I get it. Everything is infinitely pointless but this does not stop me from living a purposeful and happy life - or to please my ego if you that's what you want to hear. This may just show the depth of my ignorance to you but you need to see that development is gradual. You can't just slap an aspiring meditator in the face telling him "It's masturbation, stop it!". If you do he may never grasp this proclaimed truth of yours.

You are committing the same mistake as you accuse everybody else of making - and I commit as well by clicking that "Submit Reply" button and showing you how undeveloped I am. If you truly embodied what you say here you would shut up and leave this post here - and the only way to say that is to commit the exact same thing I accuse you of not understanding.

I never once said that you shouldn't pursue your daily masturbatory needs, you just need to realize what the fuck you are doing and stop pretending to be above anybody else because you meditate or take retreats.

If anything this is liberating, you realize that everything is just a form of masturbation, even spirituality. Everything you are doing in your little life is to please yourself in one way or another, and you work very hard to avoid pain/death.

Go ahead and keep masturbating, this is the only thing existing creatures can do.

 

Even becoming enlightened or becoming ''awake'' is a visual/sensory masturbatory experience. Life has merged with reality to masturbate itself for infinity in infinite ways, this is what spiritual new age gurus would call love so soccer moms could understand.

Being = masturbation taken to it's pinnacle.

 

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Posted (edited)

It’s only In Silence and emptiness that there is room for the perception/insight of truth to shine through as whole action. Don’t search for truth, quiet the mind. After that then proceed. 

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2 minutes ago, Faceless said:

It’s only In Silence and emptiness that there is room for the perception/insight of truth to shine through as whole action. 

  • Here i am going to argue that even doing nothing is masturbation. Your entire life is a masturbatory experience.

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Posted (edited)

@Dream

I didn’t say do nothing. You can’t do nothing. Life is action🙂

Quieting the mind/thought is a necessity. It takes all ones energy for this to become an actuality. 

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This thread has been unlocked! What happened? Did some admin finally grasp what i was trying to articulate?

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Masturbate away ;)

It's good to allow nonsense to undermine itself in the light of day.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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Leo knows that he can't answer to this :ph34r:xD


One’s center is not one’s center, it is the center of the whole. And the ego-center is one’s center. That is the only difference, but that is a vast difference.- 

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