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How do I develop an interest in Truth (Enlightenment)

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I want to have the most fulfilling life possible. But I don't have a truly genuine interest in Truth with a capital T. Does anyone have any advice? 

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@seaneyboyjazz

Find a way to create a mind blowing experience that Will make you question your current paradigm of thinking and rationalizing and befriend like minded individuals.

 


The mind has no answers and the heart has no questions.

 

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Go to a place far from the city light pollution and stare at the milky way. If it's okay to do so try smoking some weed, or even better take a stronger psychedelic, only if you're safe of course. 


 

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@seaneyboyjazz Don’t bother. Just focus on living a good life. It’s really not that big of a deal and you will likely never even encounter a person who knows the truth. They are rare. Ignorance is bliss!!!

 

 

 

 

 

right?


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Some passionate interest was sparked here, when one day 'I' unexpectedly disappeared, which 'I' apparently had nothing to do with ... How interesting is that !? 

 

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What is Truth? A word, you don't need interest in a word, feeling good is the highest goal, which does not mean chasing sensations, but can mean the peace of being liberated from wanting anything at all. ;)

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There isn't really truth with a capital 'T', truth is relative to the context of what it's being used for, it's just a word. The same with the word enlightenment, there's no with a capital 'E' version, it's just a word that is describes something and needs context for it to mean anything if it means anything at all.

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@SOUL The experience of Alone, of everything & nothing....then living out life in a histarical obvious illusion....being nothing & being God for the duration....not even a capitol “T” on that one...? 🤔  You run a tight ship bro.


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@Nahm It's capitalized by those that wish to place a special significance or meaning to it in a belief paradigm..... it's the Truth dammit and you better believe it or else be condemned to a slumbering illusion! Muahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

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On 12/14/2017 at 7:12 PM, seaneyboyjazz said:

I want to have the most fulfilling life possible. But I don't have a truly genuine interest in Truth with a capital T. Does anyone have any advice? 

Can't have the most fulfilling life possible living in the illusion. Need more motivation?

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Osho answered a similar question, it is related to what you are asking. So read this completely. :

The first thing: for a patient to go to the doctor, you must make him realize that he is sick; otherwise there is no need to go to the doctor.
So the people you want to encourage into meditation: first you have to make them aware that they are frustrated, perhaps for so long that they have forgotten that they are sad. They cannot remember when they laughed from their very hearts. They have become robots - they do things because they have to be done but there is no joy in doing them.


They are living an accidental life. Their birth is accidental, their marriage is accidental, their children are accidental, their job is accidental. Their life has no sense of intrinsic growth and direction. That's why they cannot feel like rejoicing.


So first you have to make them aware where they are - and almost everybody is in the same situation. Death is coming close - you cannot even rely on your being here tomorrow. And your life is an absolute desert - it has not found any oasis, it has not felt any meaning, any significance - and death may destroy all possibilities in the future.


So first you have to make them aware of their meaningless, accidental, frustrated life. They know it, but they try to suppress their knowing in many ways, because to know it continuously is a torture. So they go to the movies to forget it. They go to parties, they go to picnics, they drink alcoholic beverages; they do everything - just to somehow not remember the reality of their life, their hollowness, futility.


This is the most important part - to remind them. And once a person remembers all this, then to lead him towards meditation is a very simple thing, because meditation is the only answer to all the questions of man. It may be frustration, it may be depression, it may be sadness, it may be meaninglessness, it may be anguish: The problems may be many but the answer is one. Meditation is the answer.
And the simplest method of meditation is just a way of witnessing. There are one hundred and twelve methods of meditation, but witnessing is an essential part of all one hundred and twelve methods. So as far as I am concerned, witnessing is the only method. Those one hundred and twelve are different applications of witnessing.


The essential core, the spirit of meditation is to learn how to witness.


You are seeing a tree: You are there, the tree is there, but can't you find one thing more? - that you are seeing the tree, that there is a witness in you which is seeing you seeing the tree.


The world is not divided only into the object and the subject. There is also something beyond both, and that beyond is meditation.
So in every act... and I don't want people to sit for one hour or half an hour in the morning or in the evening. That kind of meditation is not going to help, because if you meditate for one hour, then for twenty-three hours you will be doing just the opposite of it.


Meditation can be victorious: witnessing is such a method that it can spread over twenty-four hours of your day.


Eating, don't get identified with the eater. The food is there, the eater is there, and you are here, watching. Walking, let the body walk but you simply watch. Slowly, the knack comes. It is a knack, and once you can watch small things....


This crow, crowing... you are listening. These are two - object and subject. But can't you see a witness who is seeing both? - The crow, the listener, and still there is someone who is watching both. It is such a simple phenomenon. Then you can move into deeper layers: you can watch your thoughts; you can watch your emotions, your moods.


There is no need to say, "I am sad." The fact is that you are a witness that a cloud of sadness is passing over you. There is anger - you can simply be a witness. There is no need to say, "I am angry." You are never angry - there is no way for you to be angry - you are always a witness. The anger comes and goes; you are just a mirror. Things come, get reflected, move - and the mirror remains empty and clean, unscratched by the reflections.
Witnessing is finding your inside mirror.


And once you have found it, miracles start happening. When you are simply witnessing the thoughts, thoughts disappear. Then there is suddenly a tremendous silence you have never known. When you are watching the moods - anger, sadness, happiness - they suddenly disappear and an even greater silence is experienced.


And when there is nothing to watch - then the revolution. Then the witnessing energy turns upon itself because there is nothing to prevent it; there is no object left. The word "object" is beautiful. It simply means that which prevents you, objects you. When there is no object to your witnessing, it simply comes around back to yourself - to the source. And this is the point where one becomes enlightened.


Meditation is only a path: the end is always buddhahood, enlightenment. And to know this moment is to know all.Then there is no misery, no frustration, no meaninglessness; then life is no longer an accident. It becomes part of this cosmic whole - an essential part. And a tremendous bliss arises that this whole existence needs you.


Man's greatest need is to be needed. If somebody needs you, you feel gratified. But if the whole existence needs you, then there is no limit to your bliss. And this existence needs even a small blade of grass as much as the biggest star.


There is no question of inequality. Nobody can substitute for you. If you are not there, then existence will be something less and will remain always something less - it will never be full. That feeling - that this whole immense existence is in need of you - takes all miseries away from you.
For the first time, you have come home.

- (Osho - Light on the Path #1)

 


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On 12/15/2017 at 5:42 AM, seaneyboyjazz said:

I don't have a truly genuine interest in Truth with a capital T. Does anyone have any advice? 

Isn't truth the only thing that there is?

If you genuinely become aware of the present, contemplate a little about "life" and ask yourself with honesty who/what you are and what life is, you will know that apparently.. you don't know. Know what? Just the thing that there really is. I mean yea you might have scientific answers and synonyms to the word "life" but you will know that deep down, you don't know. I'm sorry its a little hard to put in words. The only thing is don't treat "truth" like a "thing" and don't pursue "enlightenment". Have the motivation of pursuing what really is, have the curiosity of genuinely realising what life is (now if that means "enlightenment", then that is what you do) and you can do that simply by being more aware and contemplating the whole of life until you truly realise that you do not know. When you sincerely know that you're clueless, you will develop the genuine interest you are otherwise seeking. And yes, don't pursue it cause you have to or because it might bring you something, but simply because you want to know what really is. Make sense? 

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