Vercingetorix

Is it dangerous to see God as A benevolent entity?

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Recently I resonate with  Joseph Rodrigues / Neville Goddard's/biblical mystical approach of asking myself of every thought I Think and every emotion I feel  - Does it Come from a place of Love, Peace, truth, bliss, fulfillment etc.?  and if so, I categorize as coming from my Godly essence and I flow with it. On the other hand, if it doesn't come from this place, I categorize it as coming from ignorance/fears/confusion, and I choose to not believe it, dwell on it or react from it, and "to be still and know" until it passes away. It works quite well for me and connects me to Love and trust. 
I wonder if there is a downside to seeing the world this way - maybe it's a limiting approach, maybe God doesn't care about human suffering and it's just a projection of my egoic desire for God to be "All Good and Loving"? 
I have seen Leo's God and Love videos  and Have had Spiritual experiences of Infinite Love and "I am God"  but it was quite a few years ago and My memory of it faded.


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Yes, it is dangerous when you, for example, reject all fear as false or wrong. Some fear is justified.

And in the end all the negative emotions must be integrated as God too. Of course that doesn't mean to dwell in them too much. But if you are always trying to be positive that will eventually backfire, as that becomes a kind of bypassing.

Edited by Leo Gura

You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Vercingetorix The embrace must be total. That's the brutal nature of Love. All infinity is contained in it.

So on the human domain evolve yourself and cultivate your higher nature.

In the existential domain realize there is nothing but God and that Love dwells throughout all Infinity.

Love is the realisation that everything is allowed to be what it is. And as simple as it sounds is heartbreakingly profound.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty. We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes virtuous and Conscious. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life God is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, ... Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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If you want to embrace the benevolent nature of religion's God then you should also embrace the Almighty and All powerful and authoritarian nature of it too and at the same time that you are hopeful of God's benevolent and mercy also be afraid of him and his power and authority over you.

That's acceptence of the totality of Infinity.

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Rationality is Stupidity, Love is Rationality

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love is god's universe, fear is what i slap atop it

fear is how i keep myself alive as a separate sovereign entity

i enjoy it but it's fake af

my task is to undo the fear and rejoin god

but only if i am ready

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For me, creating a god that is love creates the question "what is love?". Who/what decides what "love" is? And if this god would be these ideas of love, it means it couldn't be not-love?  I'm now placing conditions on what "love" is and limiting a god to these ideas. . . If we move toward unconditional / absolute Love, the barrier between love and not-love dissolves.

To get in touch with this unconditional Love, I go prior to my ideas / feelings of conditional love. I simply become aware of empty space around me. That space will allow anything to arise without judgement. Space will allow things I consider to be beautiful to arise, such as flowers blooming. Space will also allow things I consider ugly to arise, such as someone abusing another. Observing this allows my mind to enter an area that is prior to ideas / feeling about what is love and what is not-love. 

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@Vercingetorix Yes it is!

First it sets up a Separation of sorts, btwn You and what is Creation and all the Intelligence and Beauty that is behind that, it makes the connection to it seem that much further away, in reality it is all within YOU, its just a matter of seeking to find it and getting over this super strong Survival Mechanism/Ego complex that we have ingrained within Us.

Second, it may make You shift Responsibility for Your Life to something else, this is very dangerous, You are the Only one Responsible for Your Life, Your Karma is Your Making, Karma is not reward or punishment system, Karma is like the Software in a computer, You have not consciously programed it to do what You want, so in essence life is being lived by accident, when You added the element of Consciousness, then control and Free Will come back into Your Life, Your destiny is now in Your Hands, How You want to be within Yourself is up to You, not someone else or some Entity elsewhere..

Edited by Ishanga

Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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@Leo Gura Are you referring to the Danger of creating a Shadow? I guess When a negative feeling arises I don't reject it, I accept it and feel it fully. With my day to day fears, Whenever I'm afraid of something, I usually imagine the worst case scenario regarding it, and accept it and keep imaging and accepting it until the fear is "clear". But regarding my thoughts I focus on keeping them as clean as possible by focus on the Good, love etc. which I call my communication with GOD.


"A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are made for"    - John A. Shedd

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56 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

For me, creating a god that is love creates the question "what is love?". Who/what decides what "love" is? And if this god would be these ideas of love, it means it couldn't be not-love?  I'm now placing conditions on what "love" is and limiting a god to these ideas. . . If we move toward unconditional / absolute Love, the barrier between love and not-love dissolves.

To get in touch with this unconditional Love, I go prior to my ideas / feelings of conditional love. I simply become aware of empty space around me. That space will allow anything to arise without judgement. Space will allow things I consider to be beautiful to arise, such as flowers blooming. Space will also allow things I consider ugly to arise, such as someone abusing another. Observing this allows my mind to enter an area that is prior to ideas / feeling about what is love and what is not-love. 

That's great. Does it apply to your thoughts as well? and can you apply it while functioning and trying to achieve stuff in life, while having a bias towards a certain goal?
 let's say you notice a limiting / negative thought  in your mind, how do you work with it? Do you treat is the same as a "positive" thought? 
 


"A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are made for"    - John A. Shedd

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13 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

Recently I resonate with  Joseph Rodrigues / Neville Goddard's/biblical mystical approach of asking myself of every thought I Think and every emotion I feel  - Does it Come from a place of Love, Peace, truth, bliss, fulfillment etc.?  and if so, I categorize as coming from my Godly essence and I flow with it. On the other hand, if it doesn't come from this place, I categorize it as coming from ignorance/fears/confusion, and I choose to not believe it, dwell on it or react from it, and "to be still and know" until it passes away. It works quite well for me and connects me to Love and trust. 
I wonder if there is a downside to seeing the world this way - maybe it's a limiting approach, maybe God doesn't care about human suffering and it's just a projection of my egoic desire for God to be "All Good and Loving"? 
I have seen Leo's God and Love videos  and Have had Spiritual experiences of Infinite Love and "I am God"  but it was quite a few years ago and My memory of it faded.

What you describe here is in alignment with ACIM (A Course in Miracles). I don't know   Joseph Rodrigues / Neville Goddard's - maybe their teachings derive from ACIM.

ACIM is about a STEEP Spiritual evolution.

At the base of the teachings is the understanding that True-LOVE - the LOVE which is GOD is opposed in this World. Fear among other emotions is an expression of that opposition.

As a soul or Spirit in this World we experience in countless forms the lack of Love. This experience of separation from the LOVE and PEACE which is GOD is not accidental, and for this experience to be engendered and extended in Time, SOMETHING has to produce and support it.

That SOMETHING is what ACIM explains as a 'Thought-System' that has been established when the state of separation was willed. ACIM also specifically calls this the Ego's Thought-System.

As a soul and as a human being we are very familiar with this Thought-System - HOWEVER we also have access to another Thought-System which is completely different than the Ego's Thought-System. This other Thought-System function is to AWAKEN the Soul to Truth, in other words to bring back the soul to its original State which is LOVE.

The bulk of ACIM Curriculum is to teach how to differentiate between these two Thought-Systems. And on one hand -  to learn how to become disentangled and free from the Ego's Thought-System - while on the other- how to follow and be Guided by what ACIM calls the 'Holy Spirit' - which is the catalyst-agent and a Thought-System mediating the process of the soul returning Home.

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God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty. We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes virtuous and Conscious. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life God is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, ... Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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You're imagining all your fears. So long as you continue to think fear is a necessary and useful tool to get you to be where you want to be, that will be the case. But there is a point where God realizes danger is an illusion, usually it happens when death is seen to be a thinly placed veil.

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Brains Do Not Exist 

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"Is it honest? How true is it?"

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The logic is very simple. 

If you're motivated to act by fear, anger, sense of lack, then you're motivated by false perception of reality. And you're not in your right mind at all. 

If you're motivated to act by love, joy and peace. Your actions are coming from the Truth. Those are your authentic impulses, that come from infinite intelligence and always knows what's best for you. 

One voice leads to suffering because it affirms illusions. Another voice leads to Glory because it affirms the truth and authenticity. "Choose love over fear" as the ancient saying goes. 

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You cannot love what you need. 

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For the 91253 time there is no God. 

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@Javfly33 For the 91254 time you are God.


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48 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@Javfly33 For the 91254 time you are God.

@Keryo Koffa Definetely.

I say there is no God because as you can see OP is using God as something outside of itself that do things for him.

So the moment someone uses God like that, then God does not exist.

God Only exist if you accept complete responsability for All of existence.

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