Javfly33

Some people obsession with quitting porn

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There is a lot going on against pornography lately.

Now, I´m not saying is healthy to waste your time and energies watching sexual content on a regular basis, is clear some people are using (abusing it) and is becoming an habit on its own where to waste time and manage anxiety.

But is not addiction, is just that you are using that to avoiding face boringness, anxiety, etc. Is not like pornography has physical dependence as drugs.

BUT ANYWAYS, im not even taking about that. I´m talking about that some want to quit porn because of psychological reasons.

This psychological reasons are that for this people porn or fantasies are producing a certain karmic tension for them. Because their ego has certain repressed tendencies and shadows, and sex is that place where those tendencies and repressed shadows are felt, and arise without barriers.

This is scary for the mind and it sees as 'bad'. Because they think this tension is something bad. No, is that you are getting close to the nucleus of karmic content of your ego. The more you feel against a certain porn taste or fetish, the more your ego doesn't want to observe something. 

The moment you won´t repress the karmic content that being revealed to the surface, then you will see porn is not bad, is actually a mirror that is reflecting information about your system, something very deep.

You don´t have to be against it or raise it to the heavens, you just have to be completely neutral and watch what is being revealed. 

In other words: just completely let go. Doesn´t matter how daunting it is for your mind to let go, do it. 

So basically in summary, if you want to quit porn because it 'promotes' certain porn taste or fetishes and you feel this things are 'bad', you actually got it backwards. 

 

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Porn is like coffee. Half of the society glorifies it and takes it like something necessary in life and healthy. The other half can live happily without it.

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4 hours ago, FourCrossedWands said:

 

Porn is like coffee. Half of the society glorifies it and takes it like something necessary in life and healthy. The other half can live happily without it.

 

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/

«Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent»

https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html

«Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.»

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Porn is porn. Jerking off is jerking off. If you just watch some porn and jerk off and leave it at that all those other mind fuckery wouldn't even come into play. Now, there's a problem, now we analyze, now we build upon what we think is the cause, now we go get help, now we talk and make it seem sooooo complicated. Now life goes on and porn will still be there after you die.

It doesn't care about your neurotic relationship to it. It is impersonal. But not you, everything is about you. Life revolves around you. Not porn. It's not even porn. We gave it that name. It's just energy fucking. Having a grand ole time while we need to go get therapy. Go jerk off and jerk off some more. Jerking off is having a party too. Everything is having a party except the mind. The mind hates parties. It wants to vent, argue, criticize, judge, complain, demonize, hate, envy, attack, I mean everything but party. Even when it parties, it gets nervous and has to drink and do drugs to feel at ease and uninhibited. It can't relax. It needs constant stimulation. Complications. Go jerk off and feel good without having to not feel good about feeling good. Even when it feels good it has to feel guilt and shame. Go jerk off some more and jerk away the guilt. You'd be wishing you could jerk off some more when you turn into that emptiness . No fingers or hands or porn to jerk off to. You'd be coming back for more. Then you'll be right back in therapy. Geesh, an Infinitude of total madness.

 

 

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I heard a story where there was a farm of a guy and there was monkeys there. Some pretty woman came to visit. When the monkeys saw this woman in Bikini of maybe by snifing their smeel, the monkeys started to jerk off. So, will the monkeys need to do therapy or be worried about Karmic binds or whatever is or was writen about the evils of porn or jerk off? Are they worried that they are losing their ojas and becoming less monkey for doing this? 

Do what you wish, some consciounessz moderation and is all good. Be a cosncious monkey. Hehe

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I also think it puts tension between you and women. If you have  dirty mind and watch pornography for 20 years and have seen everything you have gone to the sexual imagination limits your imagination has so much content on sex. You then start to be dishonest around the opposite sex as you are constantly thinking about it and changes the way you would normally act.

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Consuming less porn has shown positive for me in my mental health. I wasn’t addicted but I’ve also recently limited it and feel better. Getting my needs met with real women.


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2 hours ago, Thought Art said:

Getting my needs met with real women.

Yay!


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On 17/4/2024 at 6:05 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Porn is porn. Jerking off is jerking off. If you just watch some porn and jerk off and leave it at that all those other mind fuckery wouldn't even come into play. Now, there's a problem, now we analyze, now we build upon what we think is the cause, now we go get help, now we talk and make it seem sooooo complicated. Now life goes on and porn will still be there after you die.

It doesn't care about your neurotic relationship to it. It is impersonal. But not you, everything is about you. Life revolves around you. Not porn. It's not even porn. We gave it that name. It's just energy fucking. Having a grand ole time while we need to go get therapy. Go jerk off and jerk off some more. Jerking off is having a party too. Everything is having a party except the mind. The mind hates parties. It wants to vent, argue, criticize, judge, complain, demonize, hate, envy, attack, I mean everything but party. Even when it parties, it gets nervous and has to drink and do drugs to feel at ease and uninhibited. It can't relax. It needs constant stimulation. Complications. Go jerk off and feel good without having to not feel good about feeling good. Even when it feels good it has to feel guilt and shame. Go jerk off some more and jerk away the guilt. You'd be wishing you could jerk off some more when you turn into that emptiness . No fingers or hands or porn to jerk off to. You'd be coming back for more. Then you'll be right back in therapy. Geesh, an Infinitude of total madness.

 

 

@Princess Arabia yeap well said 😊

14 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I heard a story where there was a farm of a guy and there was monkeys there. Some pretty woman came to visit. When the monkeys saw this woman in Bikini of maybe by snifing their smeel, the monkeys started to jerk off. So, will the monkeys need to do therapy or be worried about Karmic binds or whatever is or was writen about the evils of porn or jerk off? Are they worried that they are losing their ojas and becoming less monkey for doing this? 

Do what you wish, some consciounessz moderation and is all good. Be a cosncious monkey. Hehe

Yes i agree, people make a fuzz out of it

14 hours ago, Hojo said:

I also think it puts tension between you and women. If you have  dirty mind and watch pornography for 20 years and have seen everything you have gone to the sexual imagination limits your imagination has so much content on sex. You then start to be dishonest around the opposite sex as you are constantly thinking about it and changes the way you would normally act.

I dont know, i used to think as you but when i was on no fap i had more sexual type of Thoughts around women. You could say this does encourage you more to approach them though

14 hours ago, Thought Art said:

Consuming less porn has shown positive for me in my mental health. I wasn’t addicted but I’ve also recently limited it and feel better. Getting my needs met with real women.

Thats the way for sure lol


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Posted (edited)

How is it going for you, did you discover some repressed tendencies?

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8 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Javfly33 were they as dirty? 

What you mean? @Hojo

7 hours ago, universe said:

How is it going for you, did you discover some repressed tendencies?

Im not sure. My sexual tendencies range between the most dysfunctional violent masochist shit and the more masculine loving alpha super healthy ones.

Seems the more i fully open myself to observe the dysfunctional ones the more fast the process goes. 

Kind of a ptds soldier or russian prision surviver, they dont want to relieve the memories but until that no process in their Mind can truly happen to grow i Guess 


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What I notice with pro-porn people is that they ignore thousands of years of knowledge on sexual transmutation. And just self righteously talk about sex like it was invented yesterday. It is like the person who uses hard drugs everyday and says it is ok until it is not ok.

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54 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

What I notice with pro-porn people is that they ignore thousands of years of knowledge on sexual transmutation. And just self righteously talk about sex like it was invented yesterday. It is like the person who uses hard drugs everyday and says it is ok until it is not ok.

I get you but i dont think everyone can do sexual transmuttation. Now that you mention hard drugs, ive done hard drugs and compared to not watching porn, they are easy to abstain from them. Porn seemed just impossible for me. 


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46 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I get you but i dont think everyone can do sexual transmuttation. Now that you mention hard drugs, ive done hard drugs and compared to not watching porn, they are easy to abstain from them. Porn seemed just impossible for me. 

You need God's help. You don't want this on your consciousness.

 

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3 hours ago, StarStruck said:

You need God's help. You don't want this on your consciousness.

 

Videos like these is what hides the real shit happening. This stuff is obvious. Who would not be traumatized by having sex with hundreds of strange men. I would be too, if I had to get all banged up everyday and at their tender young age. It's not a moral issue but more of a psychological one. 

That said, you're just naive when you say conscience. If you really knew the stuff you're contributing to just by being a member of society, you would be in awe. So don't just single out the obvious, it's the ones you're oblivious to that you need to go investigate and your smart phone and the clothes you wear are just some of them.  Keep "God" out of this because the ignorance of what God is is what perpetrates all the so-called "evil" in the world. Saying one needs God's help is a misnomer.


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5 hours ago, StarStruck said:

You need God's help. You don't want this on your consciousness.

 

@StarStruck i do. I spent 4K in sex content last years. Now im almost 0$ in bank account. Altough not just because of that just reckless irresponsible spending since having moms economic couch in the back of my Mind subconsciously not caring much about money

Now that im separating from my mom im fucked, also feel so dumb for having spent money so carelessly 🤦🤦🤦

I Hope i dont get laid off from work if not im really fucked dude


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@Javfly33 what I’m saying is that sexuality is spiritual by nature. Just having sex for the pleasures of the flesh will degenerate you. God won’t bless you and you will stay poor and unfulfilled. I never paid for porn but I paid for sex and although I had the best sex ever with beautiful young ladies. It didn’t feed my soul. I had one night stands too and it didn’t fulfill me either. Having casual sex is very unfulfilling and it takes a toll on the body and spirit.

Nowadays thanks to higher consciousness I can just look at a person and see if he is degenerate by sensing his or her aura. For us guys busting nuts into a girl is all fun and games but for a promiscuous girl having random sex just tears her soul apart. It hollows her out physically and spiritually.

I suggest you start reading Mantik Chia’s book and try it out for yourself. You can’t say it doesn’t work for you without you making the sacrifices and trying. Impossible things will happen. But the rewards are as big as your sacrifices. The sacrifice of the animal spasism is big but the reward is even bigger. Or you can not try what I’m saying and stay degenerate and keep suffering in the material and spiritual. 

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11 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

@Javfly33 what I’m saying is that sexuality is spiritual by nature. Just having sex for the pleasures of the flesh will degenerate you. God won’t bless you and you will stay poor and unfulfilled. I never paid for porn but I paid for sex and although I had the best sex ever with beautiful young ladies. It didn’t feed my soul. I had one night stands too and it didn’t fulfill me either. Having casual sex is very unfulfilling and it takes a toll on the body and spirit.

Nowadays thanks to higher consciousness I can just look at a person and see if he is degenerate by sensing his or her aura. For us guys busting nuts into a girl is all fun and games but for a promiscuous girl having random sex just tears her soul apart. It hollows her out physically and spiritually.

I suggest you start reading Mantik Chia’s book and try it out for yourself. You can’t say it doesn’t work for you without you making the sacrifices and trying. Impossible things will happen. But the rewards are as big as your sacrifices. The sacrifice of the animal spasism is big but the reward is even bigger. Or you can not try what I’m saying and stay degenerate and keep suffering in the material and spiritual. 

Thanks bro, definetely your words resonate.

I Will definetely check out that book. I feel It could be a good turning point in my current phase of my Life in regards to sex

👌🌊blessings.


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I've been watching porn since I was 12. Now I'm 27. From 12 till 24 I would watch it 1-3 times a day everyday (sometimes even 5 times if I didn't have to go to school). 

I used to think that there was nothing wrong with porn until I tried quitting it 4 years ago. I realized the real reasons of my porn use. I became conscious I use porn because my skills with women are really bad. It's been my copping strategy for a very very long time. Now I'm 27 and I'm trying to stop watching it. Porn is a good tool in a short run, but in a long run it may fuck you up. 

I'm not saying that porn is bad for everyone, it would be stupid to say that. But, I'm so sad to realize that the time I spent jerking off on porn I could've been developing my social skills. I'm glad that I at least realized it right now and I have time to work on my skills. 

I think a lot of people denying or not aware of negative side-effects it can cause. The other half demonizes it which is wrong as well. The only person who can tell if porn is good for you or not is you. Don't ask other people about it, just experiment and see what happens. 

After watching porn I feel very lonely and even depressed. I don't think our minds were developed for porn. It is artificial. You watch some guy fucking a girl you wish you could fuck but you can't. How do you think it effects you psyche or self-esteem? 

But again, I'm just sharing my experience with porn. I'm not here to argue with people on this topic.  

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