Faceless

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  1. 17 minutes ago, Victor Mgazi said:

    (excuse me for not titling this, to be honest I found it to be pointless) 

    To all the seekers out here, what is it exactly that you’re seeking? 
    To all the questioners out here, what is it exactly that you’re questioning? 
    To all the teachers out here, what is it exactly that you’re teaching? 
    To all the students out here, what is it exactly that you’re learning? 

    What is a dance without a dancer, 
    And what is the dancer without the dance? 

    What is a song without a singer, 
    And what is the singer without the song? 

    What is achievement without an achiever,
    And what is the achiever without the achievement? 

    What is an invention without an inventor,
    And what is the inventor without the invention?!

    What is art without an artist, 
    And what is the artist without the art? 

    What is a thought without a thinker, 
    And what is the thinker without the thought?!

    What is creation without a creator, 
    And what is the creator without the Creation?!

    What is an experience without a experiencer, 
    And what is the experiencer without the experience?!

    (This could go on indefinitely) 

    The above questions aren’t really there to get answers, they are simply there to help trigger something intuitional and peaceful(a state of rest/silence). Depending on your current state of mind, this could bring about…a meaningless (or silencing, not sure which word is suitable) realization. 

    Trying to make meaning out of meaninglessness will only leave you in some sort of a loophole, like a paradox and I hope you see that. Allow the heart & mind to dwell on this for just a small period of time while referencing to the above queries, don't try to resist anything - go with the flow. 

    What is sight without the viewer?  What is sound without the hearer? And so on... 

    P.S. Wish you luck with your pathless path. 

     

    Indeed:)

    As a path implies an “i” that walks it. 

    As the path and “the i” are one and the same movement of time/self. 

    The means (path), and the end-goal(truth-enlightenment), are really one and the same movement of “i”-time. 

    As all of the above are the movement of psychological time(psychological becoming), and imply the projection of the goal(truth), as if it was some-”thing” fixed-static. 

     

     


  2. 5 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

    How many times do I have to tell you that absolute truth cannot be spoken about in words

    I’m not talking about absolute truth. 

    6 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

    So please stop looking for the truth in my words, because there aren’t any.

    Cute ?

    7 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

    Instead, try to understand what I’m trying to tell you

    I understand what you are suggesting and I am bringing to attention the falsity in it. Are you aware of that? 

    8 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

    Respond in a way we’re we can have a dialogue about enlightenment

    There is no point in having a dialog about enlightenment...as that is to move within the limit of a pre-assumed falsity...perhaps explore into the questions posted last. 

    10 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

    and for the thousandth time, the writing will never be true) were you try to understand and respond appropriately. If you’re not capable of that, then this forum isn’t for you. 

    You are the only one referring to communicating TRUTH/“enlightenment”..

    I am bringing to attention that which can be understood/communicated.

    What I am referring too can be communicated. As I am pointing to that of “the self” and it’s movement within time/thought. 

    To speak about truth which is timesless has absolutely no point, as truth cannot be communicated. 

    Now before responding perhaps re-read what was said before projecting the obvious incoherent response. Or don’t bother and continue to do what you what you want. 


  3. 11 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

    If you’re talking from experience and you’re truly enlightened

    Do you see the false in this?? 

    Can one be enlightened?

    As said already....

    Enlightened action implies timeless action, which is always changing, never static. 

    This is why it is foolish to say one is enlightened or that one knows, or has experienced truth. 

    Such timeless action is never fixed. 

     

    And what does experience have to do with that? 

     

    Are you aware of these falsities? 

     

    And to just be clear...no one can help “you” or “me”.

    To depend on another for help is the very reason one is caught in there own self deception-confusion/suffering. 

    I only write to perhaps bring about interest in learning about the self as it is...for me and anyone else to play the role of teacher is totally irresponsible, and contributes to the disorder of the conditioned consciousness. 

     

     


  4. @SoonHei

     

    “Using no way as a way, having no limitation as limitation”...

    “Awareness is without choice, without demand, without anxiety; in that state of mind, there is perception.”..

     

    To realize freedom the mind has to learn to look at life, which is a vast movement, without the bondage of time , for freedom lies beyond the field of consciousness care for watching, but don't stop and interpret "I am free," then you're living in a memory of something that has gone before.

    Bruce Lee

     


  5. On a much more simple level...

    Desire, will, psychological becoming, are all actually one and the same movement of fear looking to end itself by means of nourishing it’s own movement(psychological time). 

    If action (i.e choosing/deciding) being influenced by desire/will is determined by FEAR, is that action ever free? 

    Or is that action inevitably burdened and limited by fear? 

     

     


  6. 10 minutes ago, Ingit said:

    After meditation session I feel great... i feel great that IM doing meditation, when I posted my problem here on forum after being exhaused....I feel relieved!

    Exactly...:)

    Perhaps explore into this “i feeling relieved”. 

    Relationship with ourselves and others speaks its own truth. Can one obvserve the many actions & reactions of that relationship in motion? 


  7. @Barry J ??I’m not is opposition to Buddhism or any “thing”. 

    I am only interested in sharing the significance of possibly bypassing all that which time/thought has put together as a means to freedom. 

    For me personally there was a direct seeing into the whole nature and structure of time/thought as a means to FREEDOM.

    There wasn’t this movement of progression, cultivation of time, or process of any kind. It was an instantaneous and holistic insight into the futility in looking to time/thought to end the burden in which time/thought had created...

    I feel I am not in any way special, and that this can be seen by all. 

    I am here to share with anyone interested:)


  8. Is this search for happiness-satisfaction in “things” (of the mind) the same movement that causes unhappiness-dissatisfaction? 

    When we look to the mind-thought(“things”) to fulfill our own sense of psychological contentment, isn’t that actually what causes psychological discontentment?

    When the self looks to THOUGHT(i.e. A Buddhist Path-teaching) to attain and sustain a state of psychological security, isn’t that actually nourishing what reinforces that very psychological insecurity? 

     

    For the self to seek security in thought is to sustain that very continuity of self, which is to strengthen the illusion of division between the experiencer and that which that “experiencer” experiences.

     

     


  9. Is there an awareness to thought when in movement or not? 

     

    Is there an understanding of the inherent limits of thought itself? 

     

    Have we explored into these limits? 

    And...

    Can there be an awareness to the subtleties that call on the operation of thought, or that are implicit within this structure/movement of thought? 

    As in..

    59 minutes ago, Ingit said:

    @Faceless so how do we know?

    The question of “how” do “we” “know” 

    ...perhaps these three in “quotes” may be one and the same movement of thought responding, but maybe an unawareness of that movement as it arises? 

     

    Has then thought responded while being unaware that it has done so? 

     

    And if so, would this imply one has right out of the gate started with the pre-assumption that thought hadn’t responded yet? 

    Therefore, has one already been caught in thought, although continues as they hadn’t been. 

     

    Is there an awareness to this process of registration, recollection, and response as it arises? 

     

    Do you see the significance in being able to observe such a movement-process in motion? 

     

    Doesn’t it seem reasonable to understand the limitation of thought, it’s nature, structure, and process? 

    If so, atleast now one knows what to explore:)


  10. The self will seek security in thought.

    The self (image of the past), will take shelter in an image accumulated from the past(i.e. ideas about consciousnesses, god, and various other religious movements). 

    Thought will identify with anything of thought to sustain its own movement of time-illusion. 

    How then does one know when they have invented GOD, CONSCIOUSNESS etc.? 

    Do we see the subtletie of this? 

     


  11. @egoless I am afraid you pre-assume in regards to how I live and what I share. 

    If you have read through any of my posts you will see that I do not concern myself with non-dual theory, methods, systems, techniques, routines, the cultivation of experiences. 

    Infact, have you ever actually read anything I write about, or has the veil in which you perhaps observed through done all the reading/understanding? 


  12. 18 minutes ago, egoless said:

    subconscious

    What subconscious? 

    19 minutes ago, egoless said:

    I went through 4 completely different worldviews over the past 3 years and I finally found the true one.

    Confirming to a view is an example of the supposed freedom in will-choice. 

    21 minutes ago, egoless said:

    Challange your worldview, challange your Truth

    Truth is not fixed, therefore it’s doesn't belong to “me”-“you”.