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    On 2/24/2020 at 6:45 PM, crab12 said:

    Classic example is Osho, reporters would always ask him "why do you have 92 Rolls Royce's?"....................

    surely 92 luxury cars, just to troll the journalists and outsiders, would seem like a wasteful use of wealth / value.

    Why are people concerned? Then certainly they need it; then more Rolls Royces will be here. Until they stop asking me, more and more Rolls Royces are going to be here. Now it has to be seen that it is a challenge: the day nobody asks me about Rolls Royces, they will not be coming.


    People's interest in Rolls Royces shows their mind. They are not interested what is happening here. They don't ask about meditation, they don't ask about sannyas, they don't ask about people's life, love, the laughter that happens in this desert. They only ask about Rolls Royces. That means I have touched some painful nerve. And I will go on pressing it till they stop asking.


    I am not a worshipper of poverty. That's what those Rolls Royces prove. I respect wealth. Nobody before me had the guts to say it. The pope cannot say that he respects wealth, although he is the wealthiest man on the earth.


    I am not a hypocrite. I am the poorest man on the earth. I don't have a single cent with me. But I want to show these people what attracts their mind. If there were no Rolls Royces here, perhaps there would be nothing for the whole world ask about me, about you, about meditation, about initiation into sannyas, about love, about anything. It is for those idiots that I am keeping all those Rolls Royces, because they cannot move their eyes away from those Rolls Royces. And meanwhile I will go on pouring other things in their minds. Without those Rolls Royces they would not have asked a single question.


    Those Rolls Royces are doing their work. Every idiot around the world is interested in them. And I want them to be somehow interested—in anything in Rajneeshpuram. Then we will manage about other things.


    So tell those people—when anybody asks, tell them that "These Rolls Royces are for you idiots. Otherwise you are not interested in anything." Once they stop asking about Rolls Royces, then I will have to think of something else, whether to have rockets which are going to the moon…. I will have to think of something else. 

    ~ OSHO

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    On 10/16/2018 at 1:41 AM, Tony 845 said:

    I feel like some people think they are the same thing & some people act as if it's a stage prior to enlightenment?

    As is the case with almost all spiritual terminology, there seems to be levels and levels of meaning for the word ‘awakening.’ It is important to first recognize that we are not necessarily using a common language. When we see what the word ‘awakening’ is being used to point at, from the plethora of spiritual teachers that exists today, it is evident that it is being used to denote many different things. And it is not just the spiritual teachers who use ‘awakening’ with different meanings; you can find references from the Enlightened Masters as well. 

    What seems to me to be more worthy of such a moniker as ‘awakening.’  is when one realizes oneself to be out of the mind’s conditioning. Here one is being out of the mind and is able to see the mind clearly as an object of perception. It is not that the mind has disappeared, but one is not living within the mind. The mind is still present but one is not captive to its many grips. But it is important at this stage to allow witnessing its full force through meditation.

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    6 hours ago, Ampresus said:

    Isn't it just stretching a little bit? It does seem for me.

    Yoga means union, the science of union. Meditation is the most supreme phenomenon as far as union with reality is concerned. Meditation is the god of yoga. But yoga has fallen into wrong hands, and not only recently – for centuries it has been in the wrong hands.

    The original fault must be with the founder, Patanjali himself. Patanjali has divided yoga into eight parts. His division is clear-cut, very scientific, but he was not really aware of human stupidity. He started with the body – and that's the right way to start. The first part of yoga must be physiological because man lives on the circumference, in the body, so the work has to start there, only then can it reach the mind. And when one has gone beyond the body and beyond the mind, then the third, meditation, happens.

    So according to Patanjali the first part belongs to the body. But he was not clearly aware that millions of people would remain entangled with the first part. Hence yoga has become synonymous with yoga postures: people standing on their heads and doing all sorts of contortions. That has become synonymous with yoga.

    It is not a true yoga, it is just the preface, the introductory part; and the person who thinks the introduction is the whole book is idiotic. But Patanjali did not warn people. If he had warned people it would have been better. People like Patanjali believe in others' intelligence – which is not there! They trust. Their trust is immense, their trust is as immense as people's stupidity is! They respect people's intelligence. So he did not warn people, but the warning was absolutely necessary: 'Don't get entangled in the physiological part.'

    A few people, only very few – if a hundred people become interested in yoga then only one person will get out of the physiological entanglement. And that one person will become entangled in the psychological. If a hundred persons are entangled in the psychological then only one person gets out of it...and only when you get out of the mind does the real yoga begin.

    The physiological part of yoga will give you great physiological powers; it can make you live a really long, healthy life. But what are you going to do with a long life? If you are idiotic, instead of being idiotic for seventy years you will be idiotic for two hundred years. It is not going to help anybody; it will be a calamity.

    Yoga can make a person live long, but what will you do? That physiological part should not be paid so much attention. Yes, a little bit is good to keep physically fit, but just a little bit; otherwise it is a vast jungle. One can be lost in its subtleties, in its complexities.

    The second part is even vaster than the physiological. If you get into it you can have many psychic powers, you can read people's thoughts. But what is the point? Your own rubbish is so much, what is the point of reading somebody else's rubbish? He is tortured by his rubbish and you are reading his thoughts – and you think you are doing something great!

    The physiological part is ordinary, the psychological part is ordinary. Both can give power, but power is not the goal of meditation. Power is politics, all kinds of power is politics. And power corrupts – all kinds of power – it corrupts unconditionally and absolutely. It always corrupts.

    The only essential thing, the real core of all yoga, of all methods of search, is meditation. One should put aside everything non-essential. You can use things as stepping stones, but not more than that – just like jumping boards. You need not bother too much about them. Your whole concern should be one-pointed; you should move like an arrow towards meditation.

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    19 hours ago, Edogowa Conan said:

    Oh Please! Meditation doesn’t do much for you. We have plenty of cases today were people have been meditating for decades. We see basically no benefit.

    In India we have seen meditators since hundreds of years, throughout our long history. If you don't deceive yourself, meditation transforms you. Meditation is not a child’s play. It is a deep transformation.

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    @Edogowa Conan

    Meditation is the greatest source of creativity. It releases tremendous energy, because tensions are less, anxieties are less, so the energy that was involved in tension and anxiety is no more involved there. It is available.

    On 10/13/2018 at 1:48 AM, Edogowa Conan said:

    we can have Einstein level genius insights every day rather than just once in our lifetimes.

    Einstein was frustrated. In October 1954, he wrote a letter to the editor of The Reporter.

    "If I would be a young man again and had to decide how to make my living, I would not try to become a scientist or scholar or teacher. I would rather choose to be a plumber or a peddler in the hope to find that modest degree of independence still available under present circumstances."

    Following this, Plumbers and Steamfitters Union greeted the letter graciously and promised Einstein an honorary union membership. Shortly after that, Einstein received working card and membership in Chicago Local 130, Plumbers Union.

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    35 minutes ago, PsiloPutty said:

    In the marketplace as a monk you mean? Like begging for food?

    Renouncing riches is easier, to renounce poverty is not so easy. A drastic change in your lifestyle helps you to become enlightened. It doesn’t matter whether from the palace you move to the streets, or from the streets you move to the palace. 

    The people who became beggars became a burden on the society. Because if you have renounced the world, then you don’t have any right to ask for food from that same world; you don’t have any right to ask for clothes, for shelter, from that same world. 

    Becoming a monk and beg for food is not very difficult. Drop your ego, mind and knowledge, it is very arduous. 

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    3 hours ago, moon777light said:

    How can we trust someone who contradicts himself a lot.

    A dogma has to be consistent, a creed has to be consistent. Leo is not trying to convert you to a certain belief; a belief has to be consistent. He is trying to give you a vision, not a belief.

    For some people Yoga is very useful. For some people Yoga is harmful. Today you may not be fit for Yoga, in future Yoga may become beneficial for you.

    Nobody can show you a path, find the way to become more alive, more blissful, more peaceful."Be a light unto yourself".

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    2 hours ago, kieranperez said:

    Is consciousness to the degree of people like great sages Buddha, Christ, Ramana Maharshi, or common day mystics and sages like Sadhguru, Om Swami, Ralston, Osho, Doshin Roshi from Integral Zen, Ken Wilber, etc. really possible while functioning within society?

    Not impossible but full enlightenment is very rare , full enlightenment while functioning within society even more rare. Unless you are tremendously intelligent , it is very difficult to grow spiritually while functioning within society.