How to be wise

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  1. Posted

    4 hours ago, Speedscarlet said:

    You sound like someone who failed to achieve enlightenment and is now trying to get people to stop working towards it, that way you'll feel better about yourself. I want to be happy so I'm going to start doing self inquiry to get enlightenment. 'I want to be happy' is true for me.

    The realisation of the self is a good thing to pursue, but clearly you will benefit more from the realisation of the truth of your 'wants'. All of your 'wants' are false. That is your enlightenment. If you're going to pursue anything, pursue that. Free yourself from the illusion of 'wants'. Then you will be happy. 

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    18 hours ago, Ether said:

    You can have a reason. I want happiness because I want to be happy. That is fine. But when you start thinking, I want happiness because my life is insufficient thats when you start suffering.

    'I want to be happy' is not true, as you'll see with some investigation. Nothing wrong with motivating yourself with that, but just keep at the back of your mind that it isn't true.

  7. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Source_Mystic said:

    @How to be wise more mental masturbation I never said any such thing. The assumption is yours. It does not matter if they crave enlightenment  or not.

    What is important is that they start praticing things that get them to it now and stick to it and persist. Craving will naturaly fall way. As leaving attchments behind is a level of enlightenment. 

    Just telling somene the truth is not how it works the truth must be intineralized 

     

    The practical step here is to use Byron Katie's work to detach yourself from the goals you're pursuing before deciding what to do next. See, no mental masturbation. 

  8. Posted · Edited by How to be wise

    @Source_Mystic  You're assuming that just because someone doesn't crave enlightenment, they can't achieve it. And that is false. It's completely possible to work towards enlightenment without being attached to the result. If you achieve it you're happy, and if you don't you're still happy. But just because someone doesn't 'need' something, doesn't mean they can't get it. This is the next step of pursuing goals. It's okay to use craving, aka delusion, to motivate yourself, but it'll feel much better to use this 'detached' form of motivation. Don't get me wrong, if you detach yourself from the object, you can still be motivated to pursue it. It's difficult to understand why that motivation still remains unless you try it yourself. Use Byron Katie's work to detach yourself from the goal, and then see what remains. You'll realise that your motivation still remains, but a lot different from your old motivation. 

  9. Posted · Edited by How to be wise

    22 minutes ago, Blissout said:

    You are just assuming stuff right now.

    I am not depressed nor confused.

    All sages I know who got self realized strived very hard for it.

    Enlightenment will happen to you regardless your beliefs.

    I always craved and strived for results, and hey guess what? I am getting amazing results.

    My ego can continue to blablabla as much as as it wants right now

    But because i practice eventually the ego will "die" and so will all my beliefs and desires that inhad before the "dying" moment.

    However what is important is that you don't let the mind sabotage while you are praciticing self inquiry. 

     

    As I said, working towards enlightenment is not bad. I'm just stating that wanting enlightenment is a product of false beliefs. If you were clear minded, you wouldn't 'want' enlightenment. But that wouldn't stop someone from not working towards it. In fact, that person is far more likely to become enlightened, because they won't get frustrated or quit due to a lack of results, because they don't care about the results. If you question all the reasons why you want enlightenment, you'll realise that they are all not true. None of them.

    If you listen to the audio, Byron Katie will show you why.

  10. Posted

    3 hours ago, Blissout said:

    It doesn't matter if you crave or not. What matters is %100 practice, that is what will lead to results . You can crave it as much as u want , in fact a strong sense for liberation is the best 

    Not really. If you want it so much and you don't have it, you will feel very depressed. 

    3 hours ago, Nahm said:

    @Blissout ya. It’s all relative. Byron is right, and also the lady asking the questions would not be asking them had she been practiced. 

    Wanting enlightenment shows that you're confused. If I ask you to list all the reasons why you want enlightenment, they will all be groundless and false. It's not that you shouldn't work towards enlightenment, it's that you should be detached from the result. If you're attached to the result, you're confused, and that's what Katie is trying to show those people.

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    8 hours ago, sweater said:

    @How to be wise This is probably a wrong mindset to be having. Watch leos video on Number one Rule for Acing Life. But i get what your saying tho and i think the advice that he gave was delagating your subconscious mind to do all the heavy lifting. We all have limited will power. Once a habit becomes subconscious not much will power is need to keep that habit alive. 

    Correct me if im wrong tho. 

    I'm not talking about just the habit being a flow, I'm talking about living your whole day in a flow. Everything in the day, even if something you don't like happens.

  15. Posted

    In today's contemplation session, I carried on asking myself 'why do I think that my body sensations are occurring on my body?' Then I realised that it was because I thought that the feeling on my arm, for example, has the same shape as my arm. I then asked the question 'why do I think that my feeling has a certain shape?' I then got the answer, 'because my feelings are flowing through my arm', the same way water flows through a tube. I then asked the question 'what makes me think that my feelings are flowing through my body?' I then realised some thing big, which was: the thing that made me feel like my feelings are flowing through my arms and legs was itself a feeling. I also realised that my thoughts was also connecting my feelings to my body. My body is just made of colours and shapes, with the rest being bodily sensations. These sensations have nothing to do with the visual aspects of the body. My mind was linking the two together, through my thoughts. And specifically, the linkage was between the mental images of my arms and the bodily feelings. I became aware of yet another illusion which my mind was creating. I haven't yet broken the illusion fully, but I believe I'm on my way there. 

  16. Posted

    1 hour ago, Shiva said:

    @How to be wise

    No, we're talking about the same thing. But don't underestimate the power of perspective. 

    Perspective can really make the difference between living life at ease, effortlessly and enjoying every moment of it and being stressed and miserable on a daily basis.

    It's is not easy at all. 

    Most of the resistance you feel in your life doesn't happen consciously, but subconsciously, which is why you are not aware of them. I'm not underestimating your achievements. If you say that your life feels like a flow, that's a great thing you got there. But not what I'm looking for. I know for a fact that enlightenment is required for this. Since you are not enlightened, we are not talking about the same thing. 

  17. Posted

    15 hours ago, Shiva said:

    @How to be wise I'm not enlightened. But I am a very happy person and deeply enjoy my life.

    Sometimes I get a little bit stressed or depressed here and there. But that's rare and temporary.

    I noticed that the moments when my life doesn't feel easy are when I give too much importance to things which are not that important and I have problems with these things. A job is such a thing.

    Whether I do job A or job B or if I get a promotion or not or if you score an A on that test or a C, it doesn't really matter. We're fine. We're more than fine.

    Think about it: Given that you and I probably live in western countries, we are the most prosperous generation ever on this planet.

    We have possibilities like never before, access to food, shelter, education, medicine, etc. All that is fantastic. Still suicide rates are peaking.

    We have lost perspective!

    If you're looking for a proper perspective: We are like a grain of sand in this existence. If you and I disappear tomorrow, everything in the universe will be going to be just fine. If this sinks into you deeply enough, how can you be so serious about life? If you just loosen the grip a little bit, life will feel effortless.

    I don't think we're talking about the same kind of 'effortlessness'. What I mean is, how can you live your day without fighting with yourself, without rules, without beating yourself up to get something done, and how to maintain that flow state for the entire day. In other words, how do you make the day just 'happen naturally'. If it was that easy to attain, a lot more people would have it. But it's extremely rare, even among enlightened people. 

  18. Posted

    14 hours ago, AleksM said:

    @How to be wise

    I don't know what addiction you have but I have found that a linear process of awareness does not solve anything. When you're addicted you get physical urges. You don't get these urges for 5 hours every day. You get them at certain times during the day and the week. You might get an urge that lasts for 10 minutes every 3 days. and in this 10 minute period you have to apply and amplify your awareness  or the addiction Will be maintained. Stay in neutrality mode. Nothing in reality is inherently positive or negative. Only when you start constructing meaning out of something as being more or less valuable, you'll fall into the trap. If you stay in neutrality mode for long enough, the urge Will pass. When it passes find an alternative way to realease dopamine in your brain so it gets rewired.

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    What do you mean by neutrality mode?

    How do you release dopamine in your brain? 

  21. Posted

    This week I was trying to overcome my addictions by just sitting down and doing nothing for the whole day. But each day, after 4 or so hours, I got to the point where I was too restless and I gave up doing nothing. I tried it for two more days, but I failed in both. I realised that Leo's technique, which was to sit down and do nothing until your addiction goes is not a very practical one, and most of us won't be able to do it. Does anyone have any other ideas about how to get rid of addictions? 

  22. Posted

    2 hours ago, Deep said:

    Patanjali invented it. Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna, Ramana Maharshi, Kapiel, Buddha, and 100s of people who were sages used it. Most of the ancient sages were ascetics. Keep in mind it's not possible to stop thoughts 24/7 because you still have to interact with the world and do stuff. It's possible to stop thoughts during meditation. 

    Which book is it under 'Hinduism' in sacred texts.com?

  23. Posted

    21 hours ago, Deep said:

    The only method I know of is Raja Yoga. It's very difficult to practice. The goal of Raja yoga is samadhi which is cessation of mental activities. There are 8 limbs in Raja yoga: 1. yama (observances) 2. niyama (rules) 3. asana (posture) 4. prathyahara (don't know meaning) 5. pranayama (becoming one with breath) 6. dhyana (concentration) 7. dhara (don't know meaning) 8. samadhi (cessation of mental activities). I'm not going to write all the information here but you can find it at www.sacred-texts.com under Hinduism. 

    Meditating everyday doesn't help if your life isn't very disciplined. That's why it's important to practice the yama and niyama for many years before meditating. When you succeed in the yama and niyama, the kundalini becomes activated in your spine. That's how you know you're on the right track. I've lived the low consciousness lifestyle before and I can say this is millions of times better. If you decide to practice it don't tell anyone. They won't understand you. 

    Are you ready to impose this kind of discipline onto yourself? 

    Do you know any enlightened people who used this method?