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  1. 17 minutes ago, Daniel123 said:

    @What Am I I will read through this, thanks for sharing! Up until now it has not been negatively affecting me at least.

    I was told that the medicine will work its magic especially over the next few days and potentially the next few weeks, but not exactly how or what this entails. I've been told that dreams will probably get more vivid and intense, but this has not been so in my case (so far).

    Sure, happy to share.

    Reactivations aren't necessarily a bad thing. It's my understanding that they're part of a natural purification process, and those who become especially successful at meditation experience something similar. It'd just be good for you to be more aware of their potential to be disruptive. I've heard of it happening at unfortunate times, such as when someone is driving.


  2. 4 minutes ago, zazen said:

    The reason the left may not learn from their mistakes is evident on this forum. Calling people kids, childish, brain rotten, neanderthal - for even trying to understand the other side or suggesting there are kernels of half truths with plenty of false truths attached to it.

    I would tend to agree. There's a reaction occurring in some that coincides with an awful lot of name calling and presumptions of superiority. It's nothing new in the political world, but it's been cranked up to 11 lately. I believe I've been able to make all my points without once resorting to insults, and I fail to see how the alternative is the preferred way.


  3. 11 minutes ago, Daniel123 said:

    I am not quite sure what this means. I think about the experience all the time now and sometimes I feel like I relive parts of it, although with much less of an intensity. Sometimes I also felt like I smelled and tasted the bufo smoke during the day.

    !!!

    Jeez, lol. I'm surprised nobody gave you a primer on reactivations before serving you a breakthrough dose. Yeah, it's possible you can be essentially pulled back into the unitive experience, even days after your last 5-MeO-DMT usage. Different people have varying susceptibility, but it's relatively common that some form of reactivation happens to everyone. The events you're describing would be mini-reactivations. It can get way more intense.

    Here's some additional info, as well as ways to handle it should it occur.

    https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/5dab753665b2d985ff08d69b/5dab753665b2d9d9c808d6cd_Integration-Guidelines-CONCLAVE-28.05.18.pdf

    And this site is good for other general info relating to 5-MeO-DMT.

    https://www.theconclave.info/


  4. Really nice report. Just a couple questions.

    Was there an experience of visuals of any type? Have you had any reactivations?

    5 minutes ago, Daniel123 said:

    Interestingly, I get more scared thinking about doing it again than I was the first time.

    This is pretty common. It's hard to understand what you're in for the first time you do it.


  5. 9 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    If you have high awareness, you have high awareness of your thoughts. For example, I can often see in real time where thoughts come from or trace them back to what triggered them. You can witness the instant intuition serves something up from nowhere. 

    The more aware of the inner world, the higher the consciousness.

    Thoughts are a part of that inner world and as such, a higher consciousness would very much notice them and their quality. Which means they'd be aware of fallacy in thinking, and they would catch the errors quickly because of the high awareness, and awareness would also make it obvious that the quality of those thoughts are of high importance.

    The lower the consciousness, the more predictable it is. It's like Pavlov's bells. A low consciousness person usually acts on impulse without thought and they're quick to emote. Another indicator is not caring if what they're saying is grounded in solid reason. There are several other indicators/heuristics but I think you get the idea. 

    Ah, I see. That is a lot clearer, and I think I can really get a hold now of what you're describing. I totally agree that "high-consciousness" is an appropriate label for that condition, because that's exactly what it is.

    It reminds me of this post from a week ago. Destiny and his debate opponent seem to be good examples of this split, with Destiny obviously being the more conscious of the two. I noted as much in the post, and I agree, it's a super valuable thing.

     


  6. 15 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    Yeah, we're operating on different definitions for sure. 

    You'll have a much easier time finding God if the items on my list are checked. 

    I can't really explain what high consciousness is but it's more than just spiritual development. You can be enlightened and still be cognitively undeveloped.

    Some people don't exercise cognition and as a result, they aren't very good with it. You have to put time in thinking if you want to be good at it. spiritual experiences don't automatically unlock thinking ability. 

    I can't put into words what I'm trying to describe. The thinking occurs within an expanded awareness. It's not just thinking and thinking well. It's high awareness of the thinking. To be metacognitive and to be highly aware at the same time creates a thinking space that is totally different than a thinking space without those. 

    I think it's hard to know what it means to be high consciousness because even if you are, you don't really know it without a lot of inquiry. You can be high conscious as hell and not know it. 

    If you're enlightened, you have high consciousness in that regard but my definition doesn't rely on spiritual development alone. It's development across all lines, via a mind that has high consciousness... if that makes sense. 

    That does all make sense, thanks. I think your line about being metacognitively aware actually dips into the type of development I'm talking about as well, so there probably is at least some crossover. It sounds like the divine witness, which is ever-aware and ever-present, yet paradoxically just outside the notice of most people. So certainly a spiritual element there. And I also agree that having your mental shit in order does make it much easier to find God in the literal sense.

    So I guess it's different yet the same. Either way, I acknowledge the value in that kind of development. There's no reason to believe thinking isn't a skill, along with the ability to experience silence. And the two come together to make up the experience of being human.


  7. 33 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    To me, it's something like:

    • High awareness of cognition (metacognition)
    • Desire to seek truth and desire to act on it
    • Cognitively energetic, because work has to be put in for development to occur
    • Not bothered by uncertainty
    • Ability to hold contradictory ideas
    • Ability to do hypotheticals and to immerse oneself into other perspectives 
    • Deep understanding of human nature 
    • Deep understanding of how bias works 
    • Ability to accept what is true, even if you can't stand it 
    • Logical, good epistemology

    I think low-conscious people can find God if they want to, but that doesn't mean they would be consciously developed, IMO. 

    How do you define it? 

    In addition to how I described it above, it's basically the simple act of mystical awakening, taught in wisdom traditions throughout time. It's a loss of what we typically think of as individuality, with a revealing of a direct experience of trans-rationals such as infinity, eternity, and the unitary consciousness that runs the whole show.

    But as I reflect more, my objections could just be me acting like a snob and partially gatekeeping the word "consciousness." What you're describing is clearly real, and it's an important line of development as well. I guess I just have a pet peeve about our definitions getting entangled in certain ways. I think they're related, because all things are, but I'm not sure one necessarily causes the other.

    33 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    I think low-conscious people can find God if they want to, but that doesn't mean they would be consciously developed, IMO. 

    This is what I mean though, because the authentic state of realizing your nature as God seems to be the crown jewel of conscious awareness. Being low-conscious and reaching that level would be an oxymoron by definition.

    And for clarity's sake, I'm not claiming to be some ultra-enlightened master. I've just touched many times on some hugely powerful temporary states. Enough so that I realize what's possible in human awareness.


  8. 10 minutes ago, Fearey said:

    Yeah maybe. Then what will be the consequences of doing nothing? Of letting someone that tried to coup the country, while the sitting president nonetheless, step into office again. It sets a scary precedent if future presidents start acting like they cannot be held legally responsible for anything they do, as a result of Trump doing so.

    Well, there is that argument. And when applied retrospectively, with foreknowledge of the Nazis and other horrific periods, it would have made sense to step in earlier and prevent the chaos. So I get the perspective you're coming from, and I guess I don't have a great answer. Except maybe to point out that strangling an innocent baby Hitler, sans the certainty of what he'd eventually become, is still murder.

    We may have to wait for a true atrocity to occur before we can justify severe action. Or maybe technology will advance to the point we can peak forward in time to see Trump's results. If we knew with certainty he'd blow up the planet, I'd quickly start leaning your way. But until then, something like half or more of the people in the country don't share the opinion of shooting Trump in the head. Quite the opposite. Depending on who's making the judgement, that could be seen as an act of extreme evil in itself.


  9. Just now, Fearey said:

    Mass psychosis of the American people is what lead to Trump. No rational human being could ever vote for someone like Trump, yet here we are.

    It'd be foolish on our part to not empathize with someone feeling super angry and upset right after such a contentious election. My only point is that escalating rhetoric to that level may be a bit much. It's not becoming of Democrats, who I admit are clearly more mature on average. Also, the fulfillment of these actions would likely initiate the end of the country, and maybe the end of the world if it spirals way out of control.


  10. Also, I question what you guys mean when you mention consciousness development. What exactly are you referring to? Maybe we have differing definitions.

    To me, it's quite simple. It's the unfiltered awareness of reality, with perception cleansed from conceptual interference which is highly prone to creating a sense of self that's erroneously intertwined with one's thoughts. After development has occurred, the mind remains with all its capability, but it's no longer the strict expression of You.

    That's a shortened definition of how I view consciousness development. Almost like a kinesthetic skill, such as riding a bike.


  11. 12 minutes ago, Bando said:

    Humans will always be humans no matter how "developed" you perceive them to be, there will always be a couple character flaws somewhere.

    Anyone who prescribes heavily to online mentors, understand you don't know them in real life, you don't know their true unfiltered beliefs on how they view the world.

    This applies even more to online figures that promote "consciousness", discuss new age topics, and has a following, there is a certain ego that someone develops after having mystical experiences or any success in general that makes them have an attitude of "others just don't understand their too stupid" 

    Its not a coincidence that these "conscious" people usually always fall into right leaning topics, its a safe space for "ideas outside the matrix" this aligns with their core attitude.

    The best way to observe human nature is to contemplate on the levels deception the mind is able to cultivate. Leo has been hammering this point a lot in his blogs this year and I agree.

    It gets even more complicated. Without trying to be a braggart, I've personally reached some very significant states of consciousness, many times, both with and without psychedelics. And I've been at it for over 20 years. My development in that area is considerable compared to the average person who doesn't realize that a sharpening of their conscious awareness is something they can aspire towards.

    But I find that I'm simply not in lockstep agreement with some of the high-consciosness individuals on the forum. Perhaps the two factors aren't as interlinked as we're imagining. I have my doubts that there's many here who take spirituality as seriously as I do. Again, not trying to brag, just using it as a reference to point out the strangeness of tying authentic consciousness development to political opinion.

    So yeah, I agree with you that those who promote consciousness may lean right, but they can just as easily lean left in my opinion. I'm sure that notion will be met with some ferocity, lol.


  12. 5 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    Jesus. First of all, he didn't go in-depth on rocket science. Second, because you explain why material x is better than material y does not indicate intelligence. It indicates a working mind that's probably interested in complexity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's dumb, but this video is not evidence. The best evidence I've heard is that he's like #4 in the world on some video game. That is more impressive than him regurgitating concepts that people think you have to be intelligent to regurgitate. 

    Many people could easily commit to memory what he's talking about in a day. It is not genius to get the high-level overview of how things work. If you're the head of SpaceX, I'd say it'd be a good idea to understand the rockets.

    I just started getting into microscopy, of which, most people are clueless. If I start talking about different staining techniques and the chemistry behind them, would you think I'm intelligent? I would hope not. Some people are drawn to complexity, and Elon seems to be, but I don't think he's no more a genius than I am, and I am not.

    It's not worth me arguing on this one. I don't really think he's that extraordinary either in terms of raw intelligence and access to genius-level inspiration. He's probably smart enough, and definitely very driven, but I don't think he's the modern-day Nikola Tesla that he's made out to be.


  13. 37 minutes ago, Fearey said:

    I hope they do. Trump tried to coup the country last time around. If they somehow managed to prevent Trump from taking office by force that would be 1000% justified and the right thing to do, in my opinion.

    He has no business being anywhere close to the presidency after all he's done. I'm sure there's plenty of decent shooters out there that'd be willing to enact justice where the supreme court failed.

    Fuck Trump. Let there be chaos!

    It might be justified if they riot on Jan 6th and delay the certification of the vote for a few hours, but it's a stretch to say it'd be justified if the violence gets so intense that it somehow prevents him from taking his democratically determined role in office. And it's certainly a stretch to say he should be straight up murdered.

    I won't try to pin your words on all Democrats, though. You're the first person I've seen state something so radical, so it doesn't seem to be the general consensus. Hopefully it stays that way.


  14. 36 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    I'd be interested if someone can show some good evidence that indicates he's a genius. 

    Destiny recently made a similar request and was provided a video where Musk went in-depth into rocket science concepts during an interview. It was enough for Destiny to be convinced he had underestimated him.

    Personally, I don't view Musk as very quick-witted, but I do think he has some obvious intelligence. It's likely that many on the right overestimate him, but his accomplishments alone show that he's an atypical person.

     


  15. 3 minutes ago, Consept said:

    But yeah generally we have some of the same dynamics but the US is a whole other level

    Interesting stuff, thanks. I always wonder what's going on in an anti-establishment context around the world, and especially in other western countries. You might be surprised how little US news talks about international affairs.

    9 minutes ago, Consept said:

    There is of course a section of the UK that probably would vote for Trump and are against any immigration etc, I've seen reports when they asked Britons if they would vote for Trump it was around 18% so that gives some idea. 

    That's surprisingly low. Though I wonder if a lack of familiarity would play a part. It's not like Trump campaigns in the UK. I imagine when polled, most people in the US wouldn't know what to think of the UK prime minister either.


  16. 2 minutes ago, Consept said:

    I think it comes down to being anti-establishment, if you think back I'm recent history to the 80s, 90s and even early 2000s, the republicans and the right were the establishment. They were against youth movements like rap and they would attempt to censor a lot of content, Marilyn manson, Eminem, gangster rap, miami booty popping music. There are some wild stories of the fbi doing investigations. All the edgy comedians were leftist, George carlin, Bill Hicks etc. The whole point of the left ideology was allowing people to say what they want and be who they are. 

    The right are still against all these things btw and would definitely want to shut them down. But what has happened is the left have become the establishment. The youth generally are attracted to anti-establishment, they often want to rebel against current systems. What's funny is that the left are only really intolerant against intolerance, they hate the idea of people being suppressed, that's really what their core value is. The right do actually want to suppress but they don't like being suppressed in their suppression of others xD they want to be able to say trans shouldnt be allowed rights or gays shouldnt be proud to be gay or black people are culturally inferior, this is what it comes down to. 

    So because they were losing the culture war, the right basically marketed themselves as anti-establishment, brought in these ideas that they're not free to say what they want and they're being held down and now they've somewhat successfully reversed it so that they are the cool, edgy outsiders, despite the fact their ideology is way outdated for current society. In fact it most likely would've died out but Trumps reignited them and the fact that he doesn't really share their ideology, doesn't really matter because they can channel it through him, which is the idea with project 25. 

    Yeah, I've noticed the establishment/anti-establishment flip as well. You could definitely be on to something in terms of young people naturally shifting away from perceived authority.

    Is something similar happening in the UK, or are the politics and culture not really comparable to the US?


  17. 5 minutes ago, aurum said:

    Also, as Leo has been saying recently, you always have to account for larping.

    Being leftist can just be an identity or thing you do to fit in or feel cool when you’re younger. It doesn’t mean you really understand or appreciate why leftism matters and what it’s about.

    This sticks out as a glaring possibility. There was probably a stretch of time where it was considered the most popular thing to do (cosplay leftism). I'm guessing the options have evened out a bit in terms of what's an acceptable ideology to profess, even if young people don't actually understand the differences.


  18. 1 minute ago, aurum said:

    They are certainly more stereotypically masculine than your average leftist, yes.

    And they offer a version of masculinity that is more relatable to younger guys because it is less mature, less developed.

    That’s the problem with the Dave Bautista ad that @Joshe posted. I can tell Dave is trying to relate to how a young dude would think. But the reality is that integrating leftism is just out of maturity range for a lot of these dudes.

    So even if they like Dave’s ad, fundamentally there is a mismatch in terms of values and development level. And no ad by itself can fix that.

    What you're saying makes a lot of sense, but how do we reconcile that young people were previously overwhelmingly left-leaning? I haven't looked at stats to confirm, but I remember that including both young men and young women. So much so that there were many talks on the left about lowering the voting age, which I assume has become less of a priority for them now.

    Why was high-maturity leftist thinking within young men's grasp before, but has become simply beyond their ability to grasp now?


  19. 1 minute ago, Joshe said:

    Rogan is a king himself, so it doesn't apply to him. What I'm saying is that many other influencers do play that game with Rogan. They kiss his ass and avoid criticism and even surrender their own positions if it means they can get ahead via Rogan. Patrick-Bet David showered him with gifts worth god knows how much, live on air. How many people do you think are doing that behind the scenes? Imagine being that popular. Getting a single interview with Rogan can set you for life. Same with Trump. If you can have him call your name out, it can make or break you. The left doesn't have anything like this. 

    Anyway, I'm getting bored of my own thoughts. Thanks for the back and forth! 

    For sure, thanks man. Always fun to grapple with a worthy opponent. :P


  20. 56 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    Look, if you want to toss out the phenomenon I'm talking about, you won't see reality. You will end up with justifications like you just gave. The phenomenon of people looking out for their own best interest by bending the knee and keeping quiet else their careers be ended is not only real, it's in full effect and is the very mechanism that allows Trump to reign supreme over the Republican Party. This is not a matter of opinion. 

    People are driven by the knowledge that by stepping out of line, Trump could end their career with a single tweet. What does this manifest? People swallowing their own beliefs, creating an echo chamber where dissent is squashed, and loyalty is rewarded, no matter the cost to integrity. They kiss his ass like you wouldn't believe. It would make you sick to see it, which I'm guessing you haven't. 

    I think I can firmly acknowledge this is a factor, especially with other politicians on the right. It manifests and becomes obvious in other ways as well, like in leaked phone calls when Trump not-so-subtly implies he won't back a politician if they don't strictly follow his lead.

    I'd be hard-pressed to begin applying this to people outside the political world, though. It would take a lot to convince me that Rogan, for example, is acting out of fear from retribution by Trump, as opposed to just having genuine alignments with the party's current goals. And to maybe state it more accurately, Rogan et al. has a severe disalignment with Democrats' goals.

    Here's a question. Do these voters and influencers seem genuinely scared to you, as if they're doing it with Trump's knife to their throat? Or is there a certain elation going on in their minds at the possibilities that have opened up?

    To me, this does not seem like people reading a hostage note.

     


  21. 42 minutes ago, Joshe said:

    Can you tell me why Lindsey Graham and JD Vance changed their tune about Trump? They came out the gate with absolute disgust for him and now they lick his boot in front of crowds while he mocks them. I need to know you can see basic reality. If you can explain this very obvious thing, and if you can then acknowledge it’s a common phenomenon in Trump world, as evidenced by the entire Republican Party bending the knee and kissing the ring out of fear Trump ends their career with a Tweet, then maybe you can use this to see how pervasive this phenomenon is. It doesn’t just apply to politicians. 

    Sure, I'll give it a try. But as a disclaimer, I haven't historically followed Lindsey Graham or JD Vance at all, so it'll be difficult to map out their motivations with any real accuracy. I've only seen short clips of Graham, and only the Rogan podcast for Vance.

    For Lindsey Graham, based on what I know about his warlike tendencies, I would guess he's not actually in line with Trump, and he's in fact still beholden to the previous interests in which he shared allegiance. You could call it neocons, globalists, or whatever. It's my best guess that he's putting on a show, and his purpose is to curb Trump wherever possible and guide his actions in the "correct" direction.

    For JD Vance, I've seen enough to believe his opinion of Trump has likely changed from what it was in 2016. Where previously he was viewing Trump as the new Hitler, he now sees him as the right person to fill a very niche role, which he has now successfully filled. If you think about it, a change of heart such as that is not so difficult to imagine. How many people do you know who are now of a different mind compared to 2016? Let's take this recent election as an example. Many voters cast their ballots for Trump who undoubtedly would not have before. Did they all do it out of monetary greed, like Aubrey Marcus, as you say? Or were they all just fooled by Trump's hypnosis? Maybe, or maybe not. But either way, I believe their opinion of Trump has genuinely changed with time, which I believe Vance's has as well.