cetus

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  1. On 1/9/2024 at 2:58 AM, Javfly33 said:

    And I shouldn´t say this, but countless times I´ve seen Leo said 'this is not a place to do the real work, this is just for entertainment' and similar things like that. But anyways. 

    @Javfly33 You're not being singled out or targeted, but you keep missing the point. Look at your highlighted statement above and compare it with what Leo expects from forum members. Where did you even get the idea that this is just a place to pass time and for personal entertainment purposes only?

    Here is a statement from Leo that @Rafael Thundercat recently posted under the Topic "Do The Work"

     

    All rigths reserved to Leo Gura

    I feel that people here need a reminder of what this place is about.

    This forum is not like other social spaces on the internet where the function is to rant and rave about whatever stuff surfaces to your reptilian brain.

    The function of this place is your development, maturation, and evolution to higher consciousness and selflessness. So this place has a bias by default.

    It is not just willy-nilly post-whatever-you-feel-like-because-this-is-internet,-land-of-infinite-freedom.

    This requires intention. This requires caring about truth. This requires observing the reactive habits of your ego-mind, which include:

    rationalization,

    projection,

    denial,

    confirmation bias

    Emotionality

    Gaslighting

     blaming

    Judging

     moral posturing, etc.

     

     This is not a place to vent or promote ideology. It is not a place to attack others.( You own self ) It is not a place to waste time as you avoid doing work on yourself.

    I see many here posting in ways as though you never even studied any of my work and you are not interested in becoming more aware of your self-deceptions and egoic reactions.

     

    It's time to cut the monkey games and behave in ways that align with what is talked about in the videos. I am not perfect at this, I work on this too every day. I don't need you to be perfect about it, but I need to see you trying.

     

    This forum is a place for going meta. It's a place to scrutinize yourself and find ways to make yourself better, not to nitpick others or engage in debate. It is not about the content of what you post but the structure of your mind and why you think the way you think and do the things you do. It's about deconstructing yourself.

    Think long and hard about whether you are on board with this mission. If not, then this place is not for you. Go elsewhere online where you can be free to act out your ego and battle other egos. That's not what we do here. Going forward I will be keeping an eye out for this, looking to see if each of you is here to do the work, or just to vent ego. Those venting ego will eventually be kicked out.

    Every time before you post, as you write your post, I want you to stop and ask yourself, "How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways?", and "Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness?"

    In a nutshell, I want to see people doing more self-reflection and being more conscious of their behavior at the meta level.

    Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development?

    Are you acting in a mature or immature way?

    Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication?

     Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being?

     

    Basically, I want more Tier 2 discussions rather than Tier 1 discussions. So make sure you study that difference and strive to discuss topics in a Tier 2 fashion. Tier 2 requires you to be more aware of your biases and less self-absorbed in your personal emotional baggage and survival agenda. Notice how most of the stuff you post is just a cry from your survival agenda, nothing more. Like a baby crying for candy and throwing a tantrum or using tricks to manipulate others.

    You are still allowed to have fun here, but don't get carried away with petty human nonsense. Watch your own tricks like hawk. No one else can do this for you. This is your job. This is how you grow. It's not about me policing you, it's about you learning to police yourself because that's what conscious beings do because they respect life.

    Cheers!


  2. Locking this topic isn't the point. Being more mindful of why the forum exists in the first place (it's intended use) is.

    What if everyone used the forum in the manner you described? What if that was allowed? It would be a freakin circus around here.

    So, let's share ideas, grow together and have some laughs along the way. All while maintaining an air of respect for the place. Fair enough? Thanks


  3. 40 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

    Like i said to Charlie i use the forum to pass time/entertainment, is not meant to be a place to grow.

    @Javfly33 The forum isn't a video game so please don't treat it like one. That would be unfair (a distraction) to others that Are here to do the real work.

    By your own admission you are breaking forum guidelines.  What's NOT Allowed: leeching off the community (using it to pass time/ entertainment purposes only).

    So, consider this a friendly warning. If it continues points will be issued.


  4. 2 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

    It sounds that you understand, that the voice that asks these questions is a voice that is seeking healing. And the healing is by giving validation to yourself, by seeing the pain and validating the pain and giving it place. can you see the hurt girl inside of you? if you can, talk to her, validate her, ask her what she needs, hug her. be for her the benevolent parent that she lacked in her past.

    @Vercingetorix All good advice. Hopeful she pays heed to these wise words.


  5. On 1/2/2024 at 11:26 AM, Javfly33 said:

    Your ego or Mind can not suffer because is not real...

     -True.  Therefore, the suffering is not real as the suffering is created in the illusory ego/mind when the ego mind's illusory desires are not met. Two illusions that bolster each other. Actually, three b-c you can add "pleasure" to the list. Pleasure and suffering set up the persistent illusion of grasping to one while attempting to avoid the other.  The illusory ego/mind constantly grasping for illusory pleasure while attempting to avoid illusory suffering.


  6. @SeaMonster  I was there in the 60's and 70's and I can say "Dropping Out" isn't what it's about.  I've seen good friends and a brother who dropped out and if they're not dead by now (like my brother) they're still living on the streets somewhere. What would happen is when they lived at home with their parents they would quit school to spend their time just "Hanging Out" with friends, getting high not working and "crashing" at other hippies places (Pads) because their parents would hassle them to "go to school or get a job or your out of here". Then when their friends would lose their pad they would try to get back into the parents' house as a last resort. But the parents didn't want them back because they considered them a "Loser". So most, but not all, ended up living on the streets working temporary grunt jobs just for a little cash to get by on.

     


  7. 16 hours ago, matoriii said:

    @cetus No . You will never be ready with that logic and you will just procrastinate . Do it you have time and at the end of the day this isnt like drawing or some hobbie this is really learning how life works and about yourself . If you can conquer yourself , you can conquer the world - Dostoyevsky .

    Than you would also disagree with what Leo said here:

    "You must be careful not to turn spirituality into a bypass or form of escape from managing your survival and life.

    If you struggle to get dressed, what good is your spirituality?

    Spirituality is good, but at your age you need to put a lot of time and energy into just mastering survival. Build a decent life for yourself. Don't just sit around hoping that your life will get great all by itself. It won't. You have to put work into it.

    Be careful about neglecting core areas of your life like family, relationships, career, building skills, sex, friendship, finances, diet, fitness, health, etc. You have to invest energy into all these in addition to whatever spiritual work you do.

    It's very hard to be happy if you neglect all those areas and only do spirituality. You can get yourself trapped that way."

    Edited yesterday at 06:38 AM by Leo Gura