Something Funny

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  1. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

    In this way get prepared to lose 100-200 soldiers every day as hamas has a HUGE advantage on you since you have not destroyed his fortrees from the air first.

    Ahaha. Love how you've chaged the number from 1000 to 100. 

    Some profound military knowledge that is. Totally not just guessing random numbers.

    Also, of course it's better to blow up civilians than to risk the lives of your own soldiers, we get it guys :)

  2. Posted

    Just now, Nivsch said:

    In this way get prepared to lose 1000 soldiers a day as hamas has a HUGE advantage of you since you didnt destroyed his fortrees from the air.

    You won't lose 1000 soldiers a day. Even Russia doesn't lose that much with their shit troops, shit command, and "lets just throw human meat at them" strategy.

    Israel has one of the best, well trained militaries in the world. 

    Also, how are airstrikes going to help against tunnels build specifically to counter airstrike. 

    And you've already basically leveled Gaza to the ground, is it safe to go in now?

  3. Posted · Edited by Something Funny

    16 minutes ago, DawnC said:

    I genuinely wonder what all of you would have done if 7/10 event happened in your country from a neighboring state with Hamas type regime still holding 240 hostages. I still haven't heard any realistic course of action, besides a somewhat obsessive approach towards calling out immoral deeds done by Israel. :|

    Use infantry to occupy Gaza and eliminate Hamas soldiers, while also not denying basic necessities like Food, Water, and first aid to civilian population?

    Hunt down and kill Hamas leaders using joined forces of the best intelligence agencies in the world??

     

  5. Posted

    9 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    But this is what you do. You have already justified Hamas in your posts by saying that everyone would act like them and you tried to make me to say that I will also act like them, lol. Perhaps you, not me. No matter what, I never beheade babies, cut body parts, rape people and burn them alive, no matter what my condition is.

     

    Show me a post where I am justifying Hamas.

    10 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    Where I draw the line? From my perspective no one should be ever killed, my view is very naive and idealistic.

    But the reality of war is ugly, it's a war of survival between two cultures. To say to you that I'm happy that Innocent civilians, no matter what side are killed? Of course not.

    That was not the question.

    My question is: is there anything Israel can do (kill a 100000 civilians, commit xyz warcrimes, starve people to death) to make you say "okay, that's to far, I can't justify that"?

    13 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    But ask yourself for a second, why do you so care about these particular people who are being killed at this particular time? 

    After all, there are many refugees in the world, among them children who are killed in horrible ways and yet you don't talk about them at all, you don't even bother to mention them because they are not Palestinians fighting against Israel. 

    Do you care about Palestinian people in particular? That's ok, admit that and say that you care about them in particular while any other child or innocent civilian in the world can fuck off, instead of puting yourself in this highly moralistic chair of a social justice warrior who "only cares about innocents".

    Because this is a thread about Israel / Palestine conflict? 

    Start a thread about something else and I will share my opinion on that as well.

    11 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    By your perspective I'm retarded and MAGA and you are so enlightened and good, so why to bother arguing with me at all?

    Because it triggers me a lot. You using those dirty manipulation tactics, like your question above triggers me a lot. It's like getting stabbed in the gut by a friend.

    12 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    Don't you have better things to do rather than debating with people you consider stupid?

    Apparently not.

  6. Posted · Edited by Something Funny

    7 minutes ago, DawnC said:

    Clearly not. This was exactly my third point. Throughout world history, no country or military has been held to a standard where it would be considered immoral to prioritize their own casualties over those of the opponent. It's an unrealistic standard that no country in the world can meet, and none will in the foreseeable future. Are the Israelis less careful about civilian casualties than other countries? Perhaps, but even that is open to debate.

    This is not an equal war. While Palestinians have bombs dropped on them, Israelis eat ice cream in a park.

    Attacks on Israel are done using guerilla tactics by a terrorist organization

    It was not an active combat situation with Israeli lives at stake, so it's not an unrealistic standard to expect Israel to be more considerate of civilian lives when conducting pre-planned, strategic strikes on specific individuals. 

    Calling Palestinian deaths "casualities of an opponent" is fucked up in itself. They were refugees, in a refugee camp.

    It is called a war crime.

  10. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

    Hamas and the massacre was vile. It’s already at the same level of vile with the bombings from Israel. Look at the photos, the density of people in such a small space with so many bombs, I’m surprised the death numbers aren’t higher. There is no where for civilians to run. It’s a genocide. 

    Please be careful with acknowledging that both sides are guilty. She might not be able to compute that.

  11. Posted

    13 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    @Something Funny

    What you don't understand is that Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians and that they are using them as human shields. They literally murdered Palestinians who listened to Israel request to evacuate to save their lives. Yet, you blame Israel only.

    But that's ok, keep protecting Hamas, keep justifying it. You and people who think like you are the real enemies of Palestinians, you just don't understand it because you are so obsessed with hating Israel. 

    I am sorry, but you must be either retarded or 100% disingenius and manipulative to suggest I am justifying or protecting hamas in any way.

    If I criticize israels war crimes that means I think that it's okay for Hamas to commit war crimes or that I support them, right?

    You are so binary, it's ridiculous. 

    8 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    believe that most of their reports are false. They play with western's emotions, create a narrative in which Israel look like the evil and themselves as saints, freedom fighters (lol). Good manipulation, and it's really working to make people to forget the ISIS crimes they made in Israel. I don't fall to their trap. Sorry.

    Nice cope. Most of those death tolls are confirmed by the UN and Israel themselves. Nobody, EVEN ISRAEL, is disputing them that much.

    Israel has openly admitted to theur last attack and killing almost 100 civilians, they have no issues with it.

    Besides, that's not the point of the question. The question is, where do you draw a line for yourself? But you are not going to answer, are you?

    It's crazy how you can't even hold an argument with a bit of integrity.

  12. Posted

    2 minutes ago, DawnC said:

    I didn't say that. I never suggested killing civilians indiscriminately or doing any other thing that Hamas did intentionally. Again, consider an individual shooting at at you and advocating for genocide against your people from a house containing 80 civilians who support him.

    That's exactly what you've said and keep saying.

    He was not posing any active danger to anyone. This was a strategic decision to eliminate him without regard for other human lives.

    There was no proof that this strike will kill him or that he is there.

    You have no way of telling whose side those civilians were on.

    It was in the middle of a refugee camp.

     

  13. Posted

    3 minutes ago, DawnC said:

    It's not a matter of 'comparing the value of human lives', it's about grasping what exactly you're proposing. If this individual were shooting at you and advocating for genocide against your people from a house containing 80 civilians who support him, you might perceive things differently.

    Yes it is. That's exactly what you are doing. Comparing a value of human lives.

    Why couldn't this have been a ground operation, using troop to catch and eliminate him?

    Because Israel values the lives of its soldiers more than it does the lives of Palestine civilians.

    5 minutes ago, DawnC said:

    If this individual were shooting at you and advocating for genocide against your people from a house containing 80 civilians who support him, you might perceive things differently.

    This is a ridiculous scenario. 

    He wasn't shooting at anyone at the moment.

    There was no hard proof that he was even there in the first place.

    You have no idea who those 80 civilians were supporting nor should it matter as supporting someone is not a death sentence worthy offence. At least not according to the laws of the 1st world countries, which Israel claims to be.

    And even if your fairy tail scenario was the case. Lets says it was some terrorist holding 80 people hostage and shooting everyone else in the middle of New York. 

    There is no way a solution would be to kill them all together. 

     

  15. Posted

    @DawnC it's disgusting to see you compare the costs of human lives like that.

    If you think that killing him is worth 80 other lives then it ahould be your and your family's lives.

    If I gave you a choice: I will kill this guy but you and your whole family have to die. 

    Are you going to agree to that deal?

    16 minutes ago, DawnC said:

    It's easy to be moral when your own survival isn't at stake.

    Yeah, exactly. 

  18. Posted

    @Lila9 you see, the difference between you and me is that you basically say:

    Hamas is cruel and evil so it justifies Israel being cruel and evil too.

    Every time someone points out Israel's war crimes, you just point your finger and say "but look, Hamas does that too."

    The difference though is that Hamas is a terrorist group while Israel is supposed to be a civilized state with a seat at the UN. So in my opinion, it's okay to hold them to a bit of a higher standard.

    And in my opinion, Hamas being cruel and evil, doesn't justify Israel committing war crimes as well. 

    ***

    But even if you put that aside, and stick to your position of Israel can do whatever they want, and murder as many people as they want because Hamas is bad. It's simply delusional to praise them for being soooo humane at the same time, lol.

     

  21. Posted

    34 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

    @zazen What rediculous is the unfairness you guys have here in this discussion towards Israel, Israeli public and the inability to understand their perspective and feel the deep insecure and threat they feel in a way they have and probably YOU have never felt in the past as a western boy/man in a developed country like us.

    I just can imagine how would you react if your hometown was under similar threat and only 40km near you 1000 men, women, children and elderly would murdered by a terror organization who is deliberately looking for civilians like you. I bet you would react very differently and this is an understatement.

    Watch some interviews of Israeli families and give up the idea you can understand the situation from distance.

    As opposed to terror, a little modesty won't kill you.

     

    You guys sure love to play a victim card. How about 30x more dead palestinian people? I don't see you trying to emphasize with them very much.

     

  22. Posted · Edited by Something Funny

    16 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

    understand that. You have a phone in your hand and the thread is not about the phone. You didn't have to get cocky with me. All I said was, would've love to see what you look like. Not to judge you, just to see. Think about how you felt when you saw my post. That's about you not me. It was just an innocent remark. Sorry I said anything..geesh

    What part of what he said sounded cocky or agressive to you?

    Also, it's pretty dumb to show your face or give any kind of real life information on a forum full of weird, mentally unstable people.

  24. Posted

    1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

    This is what you think about me? So rude

    Then answer the question. How can you keep supporting Israel when they do shit like that?

    1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

    This can be said on the survivors of Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel. Children who grew up seeing Arabs killing their people in the most horrific ways will be the future soldiers who will do everything to eliminate them

    Yeah the difference though is that Hamas is a terrrorist organisation while Israel is supposed to be a legitimate, civilized country. 

    It actually says a lot about their methods if people are at the stage where they feel like it's okay to hold them to the same standards of savagery. 

  25. Posted · Edited by Something Funny

    9 hours ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

    Technically we were suppose to be extinct living two thousand years all over the world but yet we came strong and have a very powerful army now. Indeed everything that is happening is described in prophecy, like the final over over Jerusalem with Gog and Magog, where the western civilization will collide with the Eastern and the dust shall covert the clouds, sounds like a nuclear explosion to me.

    So basically, according to your own prophecy, Jews are bringers of the apocalypse?

    They went and decided to take back Jerusalem because of their over inflated egos, then built a powerful army and caused a conflict that will lead to a nuclear annihilation?

    Are you secretely trying to justify the holocaust?