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I believe he would still be able to order healthy food or perhaps even have a chef / staff member cooking for him. I would say it's one or more of the other options you mentioned and / or he just had crazy emotional ups and downs because of his business ventures that he had to numb and cope with the emotional downs with junk food. I eat quite clean and I eat a lot. Probably because I exercise a lot. But as you say, it's really hard for me to see how I could get fat from eating clean, especially Owen peak fat, even if I ate a ton.

Interesting!

I have also realized that I am a very ambitious person. I want to provide massive value to the world and deeply touch the hearts of many, with a huge vision. Spiritual brainwashing got me repressing this side of me for the longest time.

Hmm. Lasting satisfaction / happiness is tricky because no one is happy 24/7. But yeah, I’ve had huge expectations for myself in many areas of life. For example, personal development. And the journey has been deeply enjoyable with its ups and downs. I would say that I would have missed out on so much joy if I never got into the journey, and surely I would be less happy, not only because I missed on so much joy but literally because personal development has taught me how to be joyful! Other than that, I am a very ambitious person and expect a lot from myself. I want to provide massive value to the world and deeply touch the hearts of many, with a huge vision - and surely I will have ups and downs in the journey. But I think, overall, I will be much more happy and satisfied that I am feeding and embodying this ambitious part of me, rather than repress it.

Very nice insights. I also had "huge" expectations when I first came to this forum a few years ago. But I have come to realize the reality of the matter and accepted it. And you just gave the extra clarity needed here to close the deal.

Happy Birthday Leo! 🤍 Maybe we should have a 40th birthday real-life gathering celebration next year

Thank you for articulating it so clearly. I have been doing a lot of this unearthing the past few years from the spiritual and late stage capitalism brainwashing that I deeply went through in my early 20s. But overall, just also learning more about myself and my personality. Realizing that I am deeply an artist at heart has been a game-changer (thank you for the blogpost of Miyazaki). Realizing that I have a deep love and passion for philosophy and pure understanding has made me so much happier and life more enjoyable. Realizing that my crazy social skills came naturally to me and that it is not to be taken for granted at all, is crazy!

As Leo said, do both! But very good questions indeed. I have been contemplating the same questions a lot over the past year or two and deeply share your thoughts. So I felt like I had to come and share my own conclusions. So for me so far, the conclusion I have come to is: I will do both but, I have decided to make my life's work about Art for now. But the way I do art allows me to mix in a bunch of philosophy, both in the form of writing, and also speaking. + the art itself touches and inspires deep philosophical questions. Since for me... I see that this has much more money than pure philosophy (especially the truly advanced stuff), I will focus mostly on this now in order to become financially free. But I will certainly be doing philosophy and deep contemplations on my free time, while I am working on my financial freedom, since I just have such a deep love for it (it's either the biggest passion just like for you, or the second to art while being very close to being the first). Once I am free, I will also do pure philosophy as my life's work too. But it will happen through a new channel (videos, books) and I wont be mixing it into my main artwork. So it's almost like I will be doing two works (Kinda like Leo does actualized but also game design or whatever art ventures he is into nowadays). But they can overlap. The audience from the first channel that follows my art can follow my pure philosophy from the second channel and vice versa. Perhaps 20% will overlap. Perhaps more because once I am financially free, I will probably shift my Art into a layer or two or three more deeper... touching and expressing ever deeper aspects of life, which has less people interested in and resonating with, but more people resonating with my pure philosophy work. So in a way, I guess, once I am financially free, I wont be doing pure philosophy only through the new / second channel but also through my first channel which is the Artwork - but I don't know if you can call it pure philosophy since it has so much art in it and won't be ''pure'' philosophy, even if the art will be ''deeper''. Finally, once I am financially free, my art work will probably take 80% of my work time and philosophy work 20%. We shall see about that. Or maybe it will be 50/50. Or maybe 20% Art and 80% pure philosophy! Or maybe it depends on the phase of my life and it can fluctuate back and forth! That being said, doing art is so enjoyable for me that I will probably be working a lot! But then again... I will certainly have phases where I am not inspired to do art at all.. for really long periods at once... so I guess it all balances out and my work will perhaps remain on average the 20-40h a week and not more. We shall see. Depends on what I will be doing on my off-time from artwork and if it counts as work (for example studying, contemplating, living life, exploring, and being open to inspirations!).

@DreamCryX Very good.

I could see myself doing this when I was younger. And I wouldn’t say it would have been so much about discipline and commitment - but rather just a deep passion for the game cuz it is a ton of fun. For me at least. Especially when I was younger. Just like having a deep passion or even addiction to a video game. Unless the injury is literally stopping you from playing completely, you ain’t stopping.

I’m dying 🤣 Especially when its all true

Ooh of course. Silly me

Are you Leo half-American by biology or by law?

Your argument here like it has been the whole week is: the model is a man while Black Jack is not. And you got that completely the opposite. The model is a damn wimp in this case. Fucking him in bed for females is like fucking another pussy - they already got one. Look, talking with you about this is completely pointless and a waste of time. First go approach a thousand girls and you’ll notice quickly what behaviours are rewarded and what are punished. You have no experince and you talk like you do. That is the fundamental problem here.

Imagine a tall, jacked, model looking male - but awfully insecure, can’t hold eye contact to save his life, extremely stifled, stutters a ton & trembles when talking to girls Vs. Jack Black. https://www.actualized.org/insights/jack-black —- This is the only thing ya’ll incels need to contemplate.

BUT I DONT LOOK GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sigh… This is a waste of time. These ”pickup artists” have more balls now than you will your whole life combined.

Yes, of course. Learning how to handle rejections properly is one of the most important things in dating. One of those things that can make it or break it for you.

This is certainly the case for a percentage of men. But for a percentage of men (wink wink), they are just too scared to approach and do the work to learn the skills - so they demonize everyone that does the work in order for them to feel good about not taking any action and to keep being a coward. —- Just because some girls are toxic and manipulative, doesnt mean that there isn’t a ton of girls who are good human beings. From my experience, most girls are good people with a good heart. Just because a bunch / half / most of PUAs are immature and manipulative selfish shits, doesn’t mean that everyone is. Stop making so many excuses and learn the damn skills. Just practice and use them in a healthy way.

Here comes the third perspective my babes: As a guy who has an extremely high libido. And an extroverted, who loves to be around people and meet new people, Whenever I am single, I find myself meeting lots of new women. And pickup has given a lot of skills for me to be able to make it as much of a win-win as possible for me and the new girls I meet... and: I actually just realized that I kinda feel like I am being slut-shamed, whenever I am called or related to ''the PUA guy'' or ''a player''. Ironic, isn't it? I don't even consider myself a PUA guy or a player but I guess there's a lot of overlapping. I would consider myself at best, a healthy PUA guy, if such a thing even exists. Really, I am just a social guy who loves to meet new women, explore, experiment, and have fun both sexually but also just as ''platonically'' cracking jokes etc. And I hate leading anyone on. And again, pick up has given me a lot of skills to be able do this. Using other words just to emphasize lol: without which I would not be able to do this. ---- What am I supposed to do? Start investing into the first girl(s) I meet seriously and give it my all? Well, that will most definitely not end well due to me becoming desperate and clingy. I am down for dating someone seriously but it most likely isn't going to be the first girl(s) I meet whenever I am single. Especially if I haven't even moved on from my ex. Also, I have very high standards for a partner and it isn't going to be easy finding one. I have to go through a lot of dating new people - but at the same time, I have a high sex drive. And the girls clearly want to fuck me. And I have not led them on at all about wanting something serious with them. In fact, often times I disqualify myself very clearly as boyfriend material. ----- Now, I get it that there are a lot of PUA guys who are extremely toxic, manipulative, selfish, and narcissistic - as there are such CEOs as well. But there's also definitely a lot of CEOs who practice relatively very conscious leadership and business. Don't forget that. Please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. ---- Finally, I want to say that thanks to the damn abundance I've gotten from pickup skills, I AM ACTUALLY ABLE TO BE MUCH MORE honest with the girls (not perfectly unless I cut my dick off). I can treat them with MUCH MORE love and care because I am not so damn desperate for pussy. I can treat them as part of me so much more. I can care for their needs much more. I have the power to be much more loving and abundant. I can afford that. Just like GOD can afford to create (imagine ) this world we live in. Thanks to the power (skills, ability, abundance). Again, why am I not so desperate for pussy as a guy who has huge sex drive, that I would need to manipulate, lead on, ''treat them just as pussy'', ‘’use them and dump them like they’re not even human beings’’ etc.? PICK UP SKILLS. Whenever I am single, I tend to approach around 20-50+ girls a week. And a bunch of them I go on a date with and / or have ONS with and / or build a FWB thing with. I TREAT them ALL mostly with LOTS of fucking LOVE. Sorry for the language. Thank you for reading. I don't know if this Nordic model / social democratic / highly stage green in Finland has anything to do with my dating experience but goddamn I TREAT EVERY GIRL I MEET VERY WELL! I have too much empathy to be treating people poorly. And as an ENFJ, we are known for our empathy. + my spiritual practices. Hence, it rubs me kinda wrong when you ''demonize'' me. But I get it where ya'll coming from. Just giving the third perspective. Don't get me wrong. I deeply care about being as conscious of a human being as possible and treating people with as much love as possible. But I also have a huge sex drive and I love meeting (flirting) with new women due to my extrovertness. And finally, I care about finding a highly high-quality partner for myself, so it takes a lot of dating different women, which of course includes a lot of experimenting in the bed with different women to see if we are compatible there as well.

I’m not sure what you mean exactly but I consider myself pretty good / pretty decent and I would Very Much prefer doing solo than having someone around me who don’t know what they are doing, especially beginners. Even the guys who are okay ish / intermediate… I prefer to go solo than with them. Because if they do weird shit as my ”friend”, I am too associated with them in the girls mind. I rather entertain the girls myself or drag some random guy on the spot / in the club who I feel could be okay-ish / good / decent at this and introduce him to the other girl. I could see that winging with someone around my level could be really awesome but here in Helsinki, I haven’t really found anyone close to my level. At least not one who would fairly actively be going out.

@Leo Gura Do you have tinnitus? Or are you just trying to prevent it the best you can? Or perhaps just understanding for understanding’s sake? I don’t have tinnitus but from what I’ve read, it can truly be hell. So I’m trying my best to prevent it. Currently, part of my work requires me to go to loud clubs. Earplugs is all I have for now.

Damn it's impressive.

You guys need to start getting used to just socializing with people in general. For the sake of socializing. For fun. It is not so serious. Baby step yourself up. If you are so nervous at first, then just say something short for them and then wish them a good day! You can literally just say: ''heyy you look very lovely! Have a good day :)'' From there you can slowly increase the length and quality of the conversation. This is not rocket science. It is not hard work. It is supposed to be playful and fun. How would you talk to someone if they were an old friend you haven't seen in years? Enjoy the conversation.

What is this crap? It's ironic because the more you say, the more it seems like you are just projecting yourself onto me. Are you perhaps triggered that you are not getting the success you want and I remind you of that? Just by the way you ask this question tells me you are not very experienced in game. If you were experienced in game, you would know that it mostly doesn't matter what you say to the girls when you approach them - and that this question is a very typical beginner-question. As for if you are open-minded and want to learn, here, I wrote this recently: I'm done for today.