Skin-encapsulatedego

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  1. 4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    See, the more conscious you become, the less you can get away with shit like that because it harms your own consciousness and integrity.

    The cruel thing about consciousness is that the more conscious you become the more responsible you must be for the well-being of others, otherwise you create bad karma for yourself. So an unconscious PUA can rape a girl and not experience bad karma, but a conscious person cannot. That's the cost of consciousness. The closer you get to infinite consciousness the less evil you can be. There is a direct trade-off between selfishness and consciousness. Such that when you reach infinite consciousness you must literally cease to physically exist. Because even your physical existence is too selfish to hold infinite consciousness.

    This describes my experience exactly. Over a year ago, I tripped on 5meo and was shown the extent of my devilry.  It horrified me to my soul and I think I got bad karma from it.  I really haven't been the same or recovered since.  

    Is the only solution to create good karma to balance it out?  The act I committed, which I realised was devilry, would be considered by most as nothing of ill intent but because the state I reached was ultra-high consciousness I paid for it dearly. 

    Now I'm also feeling the effects of not being able to function in a "normal" way because I realise the karmic process occuring in the background of all my actions.  


  2. On 16/01/2021 at 9:20 PM, nexusoflife said:

    @Skin-encapsulatedego Thank you so much for that. I do not use Ken Wilber's method as much as I could. I have read most of his work and am very slowly integrating his teachings into my life. Most likely within the next 1 to 2 years his 1-2-3 method will be the one I primarily use. As far as the methods of shadow work I have used on my journey thus far though, they are as follows. 

    Last year someone on the forum asked me almost this exact question and these are my methods I have used.

    I use positive and negative visualizations in my meditations in order to reach the deepest and darkest depths of my psyche and delve deeply into neuroses and bring up things that are quite painful to the surface. This can be quite difficult because it can lead to emotional fatigue as the exact emotions of whatever arises are brought up and depending on the experience it can be quite unpleasant but very powerful because it basically puts it in your face and you can’t run away from it or logic yourself out of it.

    I have kept several journals over the past 3 years and I use them to write down all of the thoughts that come up in my mind and to document my journey to see how far I have come thus far in my awakening. For me it has helped immensely to write what I might be working through and to better process any and all inner demons that I intentionally bring up to the surface.

    Taking psychedelics is another powerful way to get to the root belief that most shadows are founded upon and uproot them swiftly. I am very sensitive to them and so a little bit of a substance goes a long way for me. I have seen demons, black voids, and many things that most people would label as a bad trip but all of my trip experiences have been overwhelmingly positive because I always completely let go and let the substance show me exactly what it is I need to see for my highest growth and development.

    Lastly keeping a dream journal has helped me to see the patterns which recur in the various dreams I have every night. Once one can see these patterns they can quickly find the root of shadows and work through them in a way that harmonious. In my opinion combining this with lucid dreaming this has been the most tranquil way of working through shadows, however it’s not the most reliable for me because I am not the most experienced lucid dreamer.

    Over the past 3 or so years that I have been doing intense shadow work on myself I can say that most of my neuroses in life are no longer existent. I no longer personally feel very tied to the circumstances that arise around me whether they be desirable or undesirable to the ego structure. I pretty much live my life now according to the needs of my soul instead of from the desires of my ego structure. Essentially it no longer matters what I want, what matters is what I need. It has been difficult emotionally and I have has several ups and downs and still have negative limiting beliefs to clear out and reintegrate those aspects of myself, but my I feel much better mentally and spiritually than I felt 4 years ago before I did any shadow work on myself. One thing that I would like to add is that all of our shadows, all of our negative beliefs are splintered and rejected aspects of ourselves that require attention love and reintegration into the whole of our being in order to be brought back into equilibrium. 

    @nexusoflife thanks kindly for your detailed response. 

    How would you differentiate if a neurosis is caused by unmet needs (e.g. unmet social, sexual, belonging etc.) or an introjected shadow? 

     

    Edit:

    I believe I am correct in saying that an unmet need and a shadow are the same.  The unmet need, social, for example, would imply repressed content of a certain stage (whichever level belongingness and social connection belong to).  

    Though, no amount of shadow work will satiate this social need.  The solution is to achieve the social connection needed. 

    I believe this is how human needs exist as part of Wilber's developmental model.  Feel free to comment if you think it to be otherwise. 


  3. 5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    An important aspect of spiritual development is getting your sex drive under control. You can't do spiritual work when you are a horny dog.

    Can you elaborate further on how to develop a healthy relationship with your sex drive?  

    I remember in a post before you said something like in your late teens - early twenties, you could nut around 8 - 10 times a day without consequences.  Not saying you regularly did it that much but I would consider this behaviour compulsive masterbation.  

    From my own experience, excessive masterbation has lead me to some erectile dysfunction issues.  How would you recommend developing a healthier relationship to your sex drive without it becoming a neurotic NoFap fixation? 


  4. 3 hours ago, Zigzag Idiot said:

    To me, one of the most beneficial experiences from psychedelic trips are what’s gotten rid of. Specifically, personality or ego structures that you might say become ruptured. The familiar comfortable way in which we have always framed the world cannot be fixed as before. My first nn dmt trip was fairly traumatic and uncomfortable but that played a crucial role in “killing” a part of me that would not have died otherwise. 
    An analogous situation - A Friend of mine once said of a former girlfriend, “ she broke my heart and it was the best thing that ever happened to me.” Before that relationship, he was fairly cocky and a bit arrogant. After she “broke his heart’” he became quite a bit more gentle with people. He gained enormously in having empathy towards others.

    Yes.  This resonates.  So it is memory of Truth (or how true what is revealed was) that can act as leverage for the ego to change itself.  


  5. 5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    The logic of this is very simple:

    Psychedelics are ultimately a distraction only if all teachings and techniques ever taught are ultimately a distraction.

    If you are going to argue against psychedelics, that's fine. But then stop being a hypocrite and apply all your same arguments to every book, video, guru, ashram, teacher, retreat, workshop, seminar, school, podcast, etc. Because all of these are technologies invented to speed up an otherwise nearly-impossible process.

    Without any of these technologies the odds of you awakening would be zero. You would have to be lucky enough to stumble into it by accident.

    Don't forget, even the Buddha and Jesus had lots of training. They used many radical techniques. They didn't just stumble into it.

    Thank you.  I was a bit too clickbaity in my titling of this post.  I don't mean to argue against psychedelics.  

    Can you discuss the nature of what you keep from psychedelics at your baseline state?  Is it merely an updated conceptual framework?  I feel as if my awakenings on psychedelics have certainly changed me but I am unsure of how, as the states of consciousness where these awakenings were so radically different to my baseline state, that it's hard to truly say I relate to my awakenings at all. 


  6. 3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    1) Although I am very introverted I really enjoy deep intimate relationships. It's a bit of a paradox, but not really. Introverts like few relationships but they are deeper. We trade off breadth for depth.

    So while you may think that I don't go deep with intimacy, the opposite is the case. When I'm with a girl, I give her my full attention because I don't scatter my social energy around in 50 different ways. And I'm not with a girl often so it feels much more special.

    2) As an introvert you need to make plenty of space for alone time. Don't constantly be together for long periods of time.

    3) Dating an introvert is helpful because she too will appreciate her space and alone time and she won't be interested in highly social activities like clubbing or partying. Two deep introverts can make for a great combo. And there are plenty of introverted girls.

    Thanks.  And have you been successful at maintaining your introversion while being socially authentic and not awkward (when the time does come to interact with others)? 

    I too find deep beauty and fulfillment in being alone and contemplating reality.  But when I then go to interact and be social with new people, there's always an awkward warming up period.  I eventually do become social and it's great.  However, then, when I'm in my own company, I need to acclimate to my introversion again, meaning I don't have access to my fruitful deep contemplating right away.  It's a pain, as I'd like to keep my deep contemplating intact but socialisation is required in my current line of work.  Is it possible to be immediately proficient in both? 


  7. 6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    In a sense I don't struggle with friends because I'm so introverted I don't keep them.

    I enjoy my own company more than that of any other human. Many people don't understand such a lifestyle.

    @Leo Gura could you speak a bit on maintaining an intimate relationship while being so introverted?  How do you maintain your own space given so much of life is shared when in a relationship, and the likely far higher social needs of the other person?


  8. @Mafortu yes, it seems you have the experience and then integrate it as a memory into your conceptual framework.  Resulting in a more complete conceptual framework, yes. 

    I agree that this conceptual framework is one component of consciousness.   Of course, we are now getting into the question of what is consciousness, which I find appropriate.  I believe there is a more fundamental, existential awareness component to consciousness.  This is what I believe Sadhguru is referring to when he comments that the spirituality is a process of increasing the amount of energy within your system, eventually culminating in the realisation that you are not merely the physical body etc.  This component of consciousness is what I do not observe psychedelics increasing. 


  9. I must ask, what exactly do you keep from a psychedelic trip?  Yes, you experience the most profound of awakenings while the substance is within your system.  Though, afterwards, all you have is a memory of the ultra-high state of consciousness.  Any insights you gained are essentially no longer yours, as you do not currently possess the level of consciousness required to truly understand them.  

    So, please extensively describe what you believe you keep from a psychedelic trip.  *I hope for this to be the main point of discussion. 

    A more accurate conceptual framework of the world?  How helpful is the memory of a psychedelic trip to you at baseline consciousness?  Yes, Truth is Truth, irrespective for however short of a duration it is reached.  When it comes down to it should full devotion not be paid to manual practices to increase permanency (not ultimate permanency, of course) of consciousness?  Psychedelics thereby being almost a distraction to the real work? 

     

    I refer here to using psychedelics to contemplate the nature of reality, not for psychotherapeutic purposes or other. 


  10. @Leo Gura

    If you could've recruited potential girlfriends in person this year, what would've your approach been?  How did you anticipate to find the calibre of girl you refer to?  

    Cold-approach on the streets would likely result in the girls, on average, not being open-minded enough.  I'm guessing visiting spiritual communities or yoga studios, or something of the like, but do let us in on your would-be strategy. 


  11. On 11/06/2020 at 5:52 AM, Jude_ said:

    Yeah if you try to do it, even if it doesn't work out as you are hoping, I can't imagine you regretting it.  There is so much learning, you should definitely pursue it.

    I most certainly am going to pursue it.  I can’t think of anything better I’d like to be doing.  
     

    I’ve combed through some of the resources you’ve suggested.  Really excellent stuff.  I’m personally navigating some of my own trauma with a psychotherapist right now, and the Peter Levine recommendation is top notch.


  12. On 09/06/2020 at 7:07 AM, Jude_ said:

    Hey I will say in general yes but it depends.  Depends on where you are, your marketing, your general skills... I think it won't be easy to make a full time gig of it, but if you are good then over time it becomes more possible.  I did have a friend who did this and ended up taking a programming course and getting a full time job because he wasn't making enough.

    So it really depends.  You can't count on a steady stream of clients, but it could definitely happen.

    I would definitely encourage you to try, just expect it might take a while to become a full time thing and have other work to keep you supported financially.

    Awesome.  Thank you!


  13. @Jude_ As a counsellor, do you reckon it is possible to predominantly work with individuals on the spiritual path?  
    For example, to market yourself as a spiritual counsellor/coach.  Activities performed with clients might be traditional talk therapy to work on “Cleaning Up” and leading the client to contemplate their existential assumptions to deconstruct the self as part of “Waking Up”?