Gidiot

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  1. 11 hours ago, Razard86 said:

    I said the point was to make it real, not entertainment. Entertainment is a part, but the point was to make REAL!!! An omnipotent creator cannot know REAL, because they are invulnerable. The only reason a video game isn't real to you is because you don't experience pain and suffering at the highest level. 

    If I cut off your leg with a chainsaw it feels real. Real is IMMERSION! If you reached God consciousness and I used a chainsaw to cut off your leg....it wouldn't feel REAL. You would be in love with it and wouldn't care. I'm explaining that things have to be the way they are for it to be real. You will only understand this if you deconstruct the Dream enough. I have...it didn't feel REAL anymore. I destroyed REAL and it became fake LOL. So understand it needs to operate the way it needs to, to be REAL. 

    I thought the whole point of making it real was for gods entertainment?
     

    *what does god want to do?*

    A: well it knows everything and it knows it’s everything, but it wants to experience that everything. 
     

    okay but why experience anything at all if not for the fun/entertainment/ love  of it?


    Why not just be a blank slate forever?

     

    I think entertainment is a big part of it and it’s what humans spend too much of their time doing as well.

    maybe I’m not entertained as much by suffering/struggle and not in love with that as a human. And that is obviously because I’m biased towards harmony/survival and evolution to higher states of consciousness

     

    but let’s be honest if we all knew the agenda of god then why even perform a single action as a human .

    you know how it’s all going to pan out, there’s no need to act unless you have a selfish desire or formulation for the world to be a certain way rather than it is right now and how god intended it

     

    there is a subtle ignorance in all of our assertions and my question would be if you disagree with this statement what is the agenda of god? 
     

    seems like I was born in chains (humanity) and there is a need to transcend it. I’m not a fan of limitation and would never seek it out if there was a clear cut alternative which I believe there to be. I’ve graduated from school and rightly and justly would never go back to learn the same stuff.

     

    its very paradoxical. I just don’t get why you could have the awareness that you’re going to go back to struggle and suffering and then have any desire or violation to escape it in the first place. There needs to be a balance man

     

    my most charitable understanding is that suffering, “making life real”, struggle, bad thing and evil  is all a device created by god for understanding itself more at a deeper level,love itself more,

     

    and you can call me biased but even with that understanding  I’m  not seeking that shit out.

    There’s a reason your development gets easier and faster when you live in a hospitable environment, some struggle is unavoidable but Sadhguru asks a simple question,

     

    “if you could create misery or bliss which would you create?”

    and the answer to me is unequivocally bliss and I don’t see how god would choose the opposite and no sane human would either


  2. it certainly doesn’t feel real to me.

    There an obvious creation mechanism which I can’t understand yet but I’m subtly aware of. And if it’s all relative and the absolute is already here there’s really not volition and time either and I’m not going back to “real” it just always has been and always will be what it is, and we are speaking in linear human stories as you guys said.

     

    There's

    no cycle or awakening to what already is.
     

    there’s just a hollow character moving through apparent appearances 

     

    also I never thought that real and fake was a hard line which also is a duality that needs to collapse. Also what’s wrong with loving everything as god? I don’t see a problem with indifference to pain and suffering as long as you have empathy and understanding of the impact of it

     

    and maybe I am just weird but I have never wished I had suffering or struggle, not once, and I don’t like resistance and friction in reality/the dream, I’m actually quite the upopian and I’m disputing that god would ever get tired or bored of not having suffering and pain and want to embody into a fake character to experience it.  The fact that it’s apparently happening now doesn’t change the fact that a more enlightened awareness would choose otherwise and I’m speaking from experience I wouldn’t choose that and if “you as god don’t see it as suffering” then it’s already a moot point because then that seems everything I value as human irrelevant too because gods true perspective trumps mine


  3. I don’t have a problem with mortality/survival the deception of life. But I really don’t buy that I would get bored of infinity and omniscience, just look at all the entertainment that mere humans can produce, you don’t think god could entertain itself without deception for eternity.
     

    Just don’t think that self deception is inevitable and a cycle of awakening and going back to sleep is what is waiting, god is too free or at least me as god doesn’t want that to be true. Makes you think if it’s all cyclical and there is no growth or permanent transformation then there really is no use to the struggle or meaning to survive. Just empirically. There’s got to be a higher understanding and transcendence of mundane survival and unawareness ignorance. 
     

    I’ve never once sprained my ankle and been like jee I want to repeat that again And again for eternity. And if I told someone the truth and they realized it, it benefited their life from awakening to said truth, I would hate to see them wake up with amnesia and go back to ignorance if it’s the natural order of things fine it can’t be changed, but I would never willingly reneg on progress just to entertain myself.

     

    If you watch a movie for the first time it has a magic to it,  the second time, still good but it’s lost something, which makes me think it’s not going to be the cycle forever. Infinity is too grand to repeat itself for eternity.

     


  4. I think its telling that if we understand "mental illness" so well why cant we come up with a sure fire treatment or cure?

    Seems to me that we don have anything better than symptom suppressants  and all these labels while having a function aren't conclusive and really all it does it box you in/ disempower you, none the less the societal stigma around it.

     

     it may be obvious to spot that someone has something wrong with their stability and mental balance/function but how can you then give it a lifelong label that is just identification of symptoms without knowing the cause or really how to cure it? it may not be mental in origin, it could be the air/ habits/diet/ etc etc.

    this is a big area where western medicine fails. its too logical and trying to classify everything and label it beyond genetic defects and such i feel like its hard to really pin down what causes/cures or treats "mental illness" and dont feel like there is a solid understanding of it.

     

    which calls me to believe that it is much more spiritual in nature beyond just chemistry and taking a pill. 

     

    bipolar, autism, and the like arent concrete at all they are labels of observable symptoms and behavior and the funny thing is not many experts would believe that there is anything metaphysical about them or placebo or self created and to me as long as they dont admit that, i cant take the system seriously.

     

     


  5. I think a country should be able to call itself whatever its people wants, as stated "India" was a colonial term forced upon the nation. Sadhguru made an analogy about the "technologies of domination" that slave traders used to do the same thing with their "property".

    The first thing that happened when you were sold into slavery was that they changed your birth name to something demeaning to insulting to demoralize you and make you easier to bend to their will.

    I agree that nationalism isnt everything, but you cant transcend nationalism until everyone is comfortable in their own authenticity and I think Bharat seems more authentic than India since India basically means nothing (river) and Bharat means "to be maintained (of fire)" to me its a no brainer, and its easy to judge from the west but people from Bharat seem to like that change and its a step in the right direction towards authenticity.

     

    https://isha.sadhguru.org/global/en/wisdom/article/bharat-the-power-of-a-name

    From the Article :

    "I know a whole lot of the intellectual crowd will say, “What is in a name?” When you utter your name, you must understand there is sound. The meaning is only psychological and social. The sound is existential and has a power. “Bharat” has power. This power has to reverberate through everybody’s hearts in this country. And the idea of what it means to be an Indian must get across to every human being because if everyone’s aspiration is not the same as the national aspiration, then you don’t have a nation."


  6. Isn’t it too overly logical and anal to preach “get the job so you can get finances , get the finances so you can get your shit together, get your shit together so you can get a woman, get a woman so you can cultivate love and get your needs met, and get all of the previous shit so you can meditate and do spirtual pursuits, and maintain all of the previous shit until enlightenment.”

     

    I feel like the linear path of xyz as mentioned below is very wrong to apply to everyone and there is a vast amount of exceptions in actual reality and no other spirtual school has put such an emphasis on materialism.

    Ideally you can use anything as a tool to the divine why restrict yourself to such a narrow pathway?

    also this kind of thinking perpetuates and in a way validates a system which people are already  highly critical of and not working for most people, I don’t see the fruits in preaching this gospel or method and would endorse a more free flowing way.

     

    saying you need all that shit to be an attractive man is like saying you need mala beads and an ochre robe to be spirtual, sure it’s sexy on the surface

     

    but it’s very risky too, I don’t think actual life progress is that linear, for example why can’t you work on your spirtual first and then come back to career or dating or just say fuck it all. Spirituality shouldn’t be gatekept by materialism ideally your job or career or dating sex life would be a spirtual sadhana in itself and not a bridge to it


  7. Yea I know I’m not realistic but I do truly believe like some masters say that if it’s meant to be it’ll be, existence will present you with a mirror/match of who you are if it feels you could learn from the relationship/connection.

     

    I have nothing against seeking out a relationship but sometimes someone will just walk into your life spontaneously and serendipitiously I am very allergic to lists of expectations and definitely don’t like dating and monogamy isn’t  for me. I don’t really seek security I just enjoy sharing connections with women and all beings really I do think there is wisdom in allowing people into your life and letting them go when the relationship has run it’s course there is deep wisdom in that, but the intense desire for sex/security/pleasure at all costs from another being is ugly imo can safely say I wasted a lot of my life on that road


  8. After all my experience I don’t thin suppression is the answer but if you gotta jerk off I think it’s truly wise to always have the intention of transcending it, I agree with Leo, young men should masturbate but eventually it should get itself out of your system, you don’t want to be 60-70 years old jerking off, your body isn’t meant to be cumming your whole life, there is a reason why man become generally more impotent as they age, or so I think

     

    osho is the most measured but Sadhguru and Leo seem to agree, jerking off is a compulsion and you can either do it consciously or compulsively,

    you shouldn’t really just jerk off on its own, you should jerk off and also meditate says Osho and you should move from compulsion to consciousness slowly

    and not by force Osho also says that eventually if you keep jerking off AND ALSO meditating  the desire and the compulsion will drop away but only if you cultivate the intention to drop it away eventually, that is a measured healthy approach imo and it doesn’t suffer from the problems of suppression or addiction because I truly do believe if you masturbate consciously the desire will drop away eventually and naturally without any effort


  9. I know we all want Dems to win and think Trump would be better to run against, but truly it would be better for the country if that man had to answer for his devilry, I dont like Desantis at all but I believe Trump shouldnt be allowed to run either, any sane person would agree, hes a danger to this country staying together and has called for civil war many times for absolutely bullshit reasons.


  10. I really like the ability to connect with different beings and realize the oneness behind it all in a distinct form. And the diversity and creativity behind it all.

    I really hate the design that things have use to an energy source to sustain themselves, and like you I disagree with the notion that you always need the bad to appreciate the good. duality is fine, but its obvious to me you can exist in a state of bliss without suffering and torture/worry on your mind and pain and anguish and to deny this is silly.

    and I dont like obligation in any form its one of the most illusory things of all.


  11.  ideally havjng kids are an act of love and creativity, not some human obligation for survival, 

    don’t worry about survival unless you know why you’re surviving. give yourself a reason to, don’t just say you must. 

    this is exactly what happens with kids and probably the same reason fertility rates are declining, people feel like they need to survive and their kids need to survive and if they can’t afford to have a kid they won’t.

    in the words of meta sage, life is tremendously short, work on yourself, you aren’t so developed, (including myself in this statement). Having kids is like passing the buck onto them, you want them to be better than you were, well why can’t you just improve yourself?

    im not against it but at the best it’s a medium to show compassion and love for reality and at worst they are a distraction from working on yourself.

    there is a reason why the most spirituality advanced humans are often single and without children, contemplate this.

    the way humans live right now, by the vast majority we don’t live harmoniously with nature and so in my opinion it’s unwise to bring a child into the world.

    but I am totally against anti Natalism and forcing people to be single although I am for limits to the amount of children people can have until we fix our problem with cohesion with nature.

    imo having kids has become too much of a normie act and is too often not thought out and respected as the completely life changing event, people just try to wing being parents without dedicating their lives to being a good parent and honestly this disgusts me and is the very reason for a lot of societal dysfunction.


  12. Not saying I’m perfect, but if you can’t respect your home what good is it to survive? 
     

    the only reason to survive is for the love of life imo and how can you love life if it’s mad max and knowing that you are helping cause suffering and destruction in the world by your own ignorance.

    no we can’t force anyone to wise up but if we don’t force ourselves the universe will do it for us


  13. Hey man, it’s no shade on you, but you are kind of all over the place, one day you’re a zen master, one day you’ve had an awakening to no self solipsism, then one day you want to be a bachelor and fuck 100 women, and now you want to be a strict follower of Islam,

     

    I honestly wish you the best of luck but truly man it seems as though you have no resolve, you speak of things like they are absolutes when the truth is you are going to change your mind tomorrow, and it’s not wrong to do this, consistency is good yes but only if you’re on the right path, 

     

    I am just pointing this out to you out of compassion, I have kind of been on the same path, I had a lot of neo advaita energy and I still respect the message but I’ve done a great deal to integrate that into my life path and I exhausted that path it’s changed my life forever.
     

    Spiritual traditions, the leo teachings and many of the other sages/gurus/divine guidance  I follow.

     

    it just doesn’t seem like you are integrating things properly and it seems like you are running around in circles jumping from one promised land to another.

     

    if you ask me, any religion that doesn’t value :

    contemplation/meditation/introspection and exploration of consciousness for yourself devoid of dogma

    is a piss poor one, as others have said,

    why don’t you create your own religion?

    Why be a follower?

    Yes take influence but where is the guru in Islam?

    At least in other traditions there is a guru that teaches from LIVED experience not some scripture. 

    jesus is dead and can only help you metaphysically from my experience (Christian mystics are out their to learn from but they are rare)

    buddha is dead and can only help you from beyond the physical (although the has created many masters)

    same with Muhammad and Moses (good luck finding a Kabbalist or Sufi mystic these days)

     

    but be careful dedicating your life to everything without proper contemplation.

    If that’s all true to you in your experience than fine go down the rabbit hole, the Sufi mystics we’re quite awake at least in my opinion and Islam has done some wonderful things, but if you’re on this forum I think you know just how evil religion can also be on a practical human level.

     


  14. Promote wise speech and discourage ignorant speech, like @Recursoinominado said, we should all come to a approximate consensus as to what speech is motivated by wisdom and love (normal/ polite/ appropriate )

    and what speech is motivated by hate and ignorance,

    most dictionaries already do this informally

    it doesn’t necessarily have to be a law but there should be social consequences to mouthing off like Kanye west about the Jews or hating on someone’s mere identity. 
     

    I think a wise person wouldn’t value their ability to say an obviously hateful thing to someone over their ability to restrain themselves from it. And really in an ideal world you should fear being a hateful individual instead of not being able to spew your hatred with no consequences because it’s protected under the law.

     

     

    and yes it’s tricky, but if you can just say whatever you want in any cicrcumstances with no repercussions or consequences, then you are very reckless and society wouldn’t function harmoniously, curtailing hate speech isn’t about having power over people, although it may seem that, it’s an act of human compassion to protect vulnerable people from the worst faith actors  of our kind.
     

    Some social taboos are good.

    ideally you wouldn’t need a law and people would by default not resort to ad hominem and threating and hateful speech. 

    but time and time again there is too much ignorance in the world and people might need an incentive to treat people with basic compassion in the world how sad it is. 
     

    it’s always a balancing act between what’s good for the individual and what’s good for society.


  15. First one is from one of the most flawless albums I’ve ever listened to; and some of the best beat production I’ve heard combined with the lyricism of a rap god and a deep message 

     

     

    And then a brilliant creative genius level song with lyrics as deep as they come in pop

     Then these last three are just musical masterpieces that require no description

     


  16. I believe the best take I’ve heard on this type of discussion is from Osho on his talks communism and zen fire which you can listen to on Osho world for free.
     

    He basically agrees and says that biggest sin of Soviet style communism was the dissolution of spirituality, he agrees that getting rid of organized religion was a great thing, but not having any inner awareness and regard of the soul/god/universal energy was a big mistake and he criticizes gorbachev for cozying back up to the west. 
     

    given that the talks were happening in the 80s when the Soviet Union was still in full swing, it’s a good piece of recorded history.

    Osho himself wasn’t a communist but believed in the concept and even said as much as it’s the natural progression of humanity to this type of system. 
     

    it’s also pretty ironic from the talks that Marx often thought that the USA would be the first communist country in the world and one could argue that the U.S. has  been its greatest enemy


  17. The two Aaron Abke videos on UFOs and ETs are quite illuminating. He tries to make sense of why they aren’t landing on the White House lawn and what their technology and ships actually are and do. 
     

    a lot of is obviously law of one stuff but I think it makes a whole lot of since and I must say I did see a ufo in the sky and behaved exactly like most videos of them, blinking in and out of human naked eye perception and also making law of physics defying movements. Also being illuminated by white light. Sorry if this is off topic but I think it’s relevant to the news even though the video is two years old. 

     


  18. the need to create massive value is very materialistic, as if you could measure it objectively and quantify for each individual, a critique of Marxism is that they assume every human creates the same value, which is untrue, but what is true is what is valuable to society may not be valuable to each individual, another word for value is love, and what i love and the love i create should be unique to me, and i just dont jive with this attitude of create it or else, life is spontaneous and like others in this thread have said, society isnt built to facilitate massive value creation and the world doesnt need more jeff bezos or bill gates, the world needs authentic individuals who honor their authentic likes talents and abilities, who gives a shit if someone is a barista or playing video games all day, they aint hurting anyone, they dont need to be on some great mission, and really how could you tell, that barista could be more awake than you. I truly think the more wise you get the less "massive value" you feel compelled to make and it either comes naturally or you "go with the flow"  

    who will the followers be if we all become leaders? who will help you with your dreams if each person has their own? I mean just think about it, It sounds sexy if we were all just highly creative individuals, answered to no one, were completely self sufficient and mastered survival, but that ideal sounds more utopian than anything marx ever wrote. society is a balance and a give and take, work isnt effective if you are forced, coerced, desperate, or have no other options but to do it, there needs to be some higher purpose than survival in an ideal society.

     

    im not against creating massive value, but just very skeptical that it can be quantified in an objective way and then to judge and value people on their ability to meet that goal seems very childish to me, sure you can say im just trying to justify my incompetence, but clearly Im not in love with society and the way it "works" and honestly there needs to be Vanaprastha, any healthy society allows people to go their own way, 

     

    i could just as easily say society is using politics to justify its selfishness and greediness and wage slavery

     

    society doesnt owe me anything, but in turn neither do I owe it anything.


  19. Survival is literally the easiest thing in the world, you can eat two bites of an apple every day and survive an awful long time. It’s just that I think at the heart of socialism is the innate human need to THRIVE. Under most capitalistic societies we are only just surviving and we are scared and worried of being homeless because we know no one is going to give a shit about us if we are on the street. If survival needs are met for everyone, of course there will be lazy people who coast by on society but there will be far more people who are now empowered to be the best human they want to be. At least this is my understanding of it. 
     

    people act like money is the only reason to work. I work on plenty of crap in my life and literally none of it is because of money, I think that is a flaw in people’s thinking. You don’t do what you love because it pays well you do what you love because it’s what you love. Socialism at its best would empower that. 
     

    of course there are plenty of jobs no one will want to do if there isn’t a survival need to do them, but I think of that as a minor problem, I think the bigger problem is meeting everyone’s survival needs first. And you’d be simply lying if you said the resources don’t exist to do exactly that in most countries around the world. It’s more of a human development problem than anything, we don’t need socialism or communism we just need people who give a shit and want to do more with their day than just go to work and come home on autopilot