Raptorsin7

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  1. 1 minute ago, something_else said:

    One has clear intent behind it and the other does not. That’s probably the main distinction

    Gross negligence doesn't involve intent either.

    3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Actually Tate is setting young men back.

    When your movement is lead by such an unethical character, it delegitimizes the movement in the same way that if MLK was a self-admitted sex trafficker and rapist, the Civil Rights movement would have failed.

    So if you care about men's rights as a cultural movement then you should be extra careful about supporting toxic leaders within it.

    One of things Tate is teaching you is how important ethics and character is for any leader to be effective long-term.

    I could say the exact same thing about your impact on spirituality. You have no integrity behind your videos because you don't embody any of the things you speak about.

    And MLK did abuse women.

    You are guilty of virtually everything you are demonizing Tate of being.


  2. Just now, Carl-Richard said:

    So making one-liners about death being illusion is suddenly not the reason why Leo is 10x worse than Tate?

    Leo's callous attitude towards his followers and the way he shares insights that have led to people killing themselves is why he's 10x worse. I said that tongue and cheek, i don't literally mean 10x. 

    It wasn't like Leo said it one time and then never said it again and all of a sudden gained empathy for his followers.

    I remember Leo saying something like it doesn't matter what people think about those statements, he sais them because they are true. And how many suicides can we link to Rupert's videos? I can link you two suicides from this forum and countless mental patients.

    And I haven't even gotten into solipsism 


  3. @Consept Can you link me the video where Tate sais he manipulates women into falling in love with him so he can use them for his cam business.

    Because the video I saw was Tate sitting down 4 of his girlfriends and saying this what he wants to do, and 2 of them left and 2 of them chose to stay. So I have evidence that directly contradicts what you're claiming he did.

    I'm not saying Tate is beyond criticism. I do not agree with him manipulating lonely men. My point  is the people here criticizing him and demonizing him like Leo and his sheep are hypocrites


  4. 4 minutes ago, something_else said:

    If he really had this mindset, he’d just monetise and water down the crap out of his content and make it far more mass appealing. It’d make him tons of money and attract far more dumb people to follow him and hang on his word

    The fact he doesn’t do this is one of the reasons I put faith in his content

    Ask Leo why he made the Tate video.

    Because the "insight" he shares doesn't bring in clicks or revenue.

    In one breathe Leo sais he's reaching insights to profound that no human has ever touched, and in another breathe he's jumping on the Tate hate train and making more brainless content for his audience to consume and mentally masterbate about.


  5. 4 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

    Okay last post, promise. 
     

    What kind of retreat? What real work?

    Forget, Leo honestly. He is trying to teach you to be your own man, realize you are God and to live the best life. Who gives a shit. You come to a teachers forum and expect him not to teach? It’s not about Leo for me… but consuming all resources. I feel like I get a lot of different perspectives, teachers, books, practices and tools for direct insight here.

    It's a silent meditation retreat in Latvia.

    The real work is to be have a 1 pointed focus on god and let your mind and body purge. This forum, most teachings, and 99% of things people consume are a distraction from real healing.

    Does anyone here honestly believe Leo is an authority on god/love/truth when he's clearly so physically and mentally unhealthy and he embodies 0 of what he speaks?


  6. 3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    You don't know that. I for one discovered Rupert's videos before Leo's forum.

    I think Rupert should get some flack for that video title. He doesn't understand the full implications of what he's saying there, and I think it's misleading given the video content.

    2 minutes ago, zurew said:

    You definitely can. All spirituality and purpose kind of teaching brings a ton of vulnerable , weak,mentally unstable people together

    Look at Mooji's audience and Rupert Spira's audience and tell me with a straight face they attract the same kinds of people.

    5 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

    @Raptorsin7 Leo teaches life purpose, integrity, big picture thinking, contemplation, proper use of mind expanded substances, meditation, high conscious business, Truth, What is God?, epistemology, understanding good and evil, how to love, self inquiry, self deception, love, healthy pick up…

    Tate teaches young men to treat women like shit, how to traffic them, how to be a selfish cocky asshole, etc… jeez man. Okay, last post for the night. Best wishes to all!

    Leo has no integrity, his contemplation is simply mental masturbation that perpetuates his own ego and suffering, and he doesn't teach proper use of mind expanding substances the guy clearly over used 5 meo and his health is clearly ailing from it, and he doesn't embody any of the things he teaches.

    Leo's entire business is him taking ideas and content from other people and sharing that in his videos, and then blasting him self with 5 meo for years and bringing pointless insight to people because unless you are as high as him the insights into love/god/etc are useless.


  7. 3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    Any suicides would be due to a misunderstanding of Leo's intended message, while any sex trafficking operations would be due to a proper understanding of Tate's intended message :ph34r:

    Attracting women and forming a web cam business is not sex trafficking. It's such a loaded term and the way it's being used on here makes it seem like Tate is running his own version of the evil mafia from Taken.

    Any suicides would be the karmic consequence of a guy who doesn't have empathy and has no business teaching or being an authority on a subject that he's completely deluded on.


  8. 2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

    @Raptorsin7 Yeah, what’s this personal development forum all about? If it’s so bad, why you here? 

     

    This is a place where Leo gets to live out his narcissistic fantasy of being superior to other people and having his students and followers who hang on his word.

    I'm here because i'm bored and killing time until I can go a retreat and do the real work, which 99% of this forum doesn't seem interested in.

    The truth gets you banned here so maybe my time will come soon


  9. @Carl-Richard Rupert's audience is not even in the same world as Leo's. Look at Rupert's comments section and his audience, you aren't seeing a lot of schizo and mentally young people. 

    And I think Rupert has his own flaws and I think that title is worth criticizing, but again it's in the same realm as what Leo does.

    Leo's harm is caused by his lack of empathy for his audience and his arrogance and narcissism in how he expresses his views. 

    It's pretty dishonest to compare Rupert's video to how Leo has dealt with the topic of death and suicide on the foum


  10. Just now, zurew said:

    Thats totally irrelevant what my definition is. What he did was this: when you say that I will pay the taxes for you, when in reality you don't pay any taxes. If that doesn't scummy or criminal activity to you, then I don't know what is.

    I don't think tax evasion is that bad. And it's kind of scummy, but I don't think it's that bad. And again it's relative to Leo, I'd be willing to bet Leo did his fair share of scummy things when he ran his internet marketing business, which he himself admitted to in the past.

    And as far what scummy or criminal activity is, I say it's callously expressing harmful beliefs and perspectives callously to an audience of mentally ill young people


  11. @Consept Yes I would agree that if everyone followed that advice it could be damaging. But again, i'd still argue that pushing suicidal beliefs onto an impressionable audience is worse.

    I've met women who wanted to get into only fans. I could have gotten into a relationship with them and we both could have made a lot of money, and it's likely that without the male influence these women would make little to no money. So it's actually reasonable that he would take most of the money the venture. These women have a choice if they want to engage in sex work with Tate, i doubt 99% of these women are the victims that Tate's haters are making them out to be.

    But once again when we're talking about the influence on young minds, I can check anything you say about Tate and raise you harm Leo has expressed for years.


  12. 2 minutes ago, zurew said:

    Logs of him doing it.

    Links. And what was the age of the child.

    2 minutes ago, zurew said:

    He literally described that in his own videos multiple times.

    What is your definition of stealing money?

    2 minutes ago, zurew said:

    He desrcibed it himself and told that pimping is not that bad and that he did pimping.

    Again, we can argue about how bad it is to be a pimp and exploit vulnerable men who want love and affection. But whatever that amounts to I'll call it and raise you a narcissistic cult leader who callously pushes a suicidal ideology onto his followers with little empathy and emotional understanding of the consequences of his actions.


  13. Just now, Carl-Richard said:

    This is just not reasonable. I don't know how to make you see this. Would you say the same thing for Rupert Spira, Eckhart Tolle, Mooji, etc.?

    It really is. Can you show me where any of these teachers gave 1 liner responses that death is an illusion without further elaboration to an audience littered with mental illness? 

    Better yet i'd love to hear where these teachers gaslit their audience into believing they 0 have trauma and defended the actions of a pedo with the truism that all is love.

    If you're trying to make me see that Leo is not worth demonizing and Tate is then you won't be able to because it's not true.


  14. Just now, zurew said:

    Sex traffiking, grooming children, hitting women, stealing money? Go ahead and show where and when leo did those things, or where did he get accused of those things?

    Where is the clear evidence of sex trafficking? Where is the evidence of him grooming CHILDREN? Where is the evidence of him stealing money?

    This is stuff is all hearsay and circumstantial, you don't actually know the truth about any of these things. What happened to guilty until proven innocent? There's a charitable interpretation to everything you wrote but you're too dense and biased to see it. Might be the autism flaring up.

    I can show you where Leo displayed a gross negligence in expressing harmful beliefs that likely led many people to suicide or psychosis. I can show you where Leo has admitted to going out and picking up and being with women who are drunk/under the influence while he's sober. I can show you where Leo talked about going to a women's apartment who was so drunk she was virtually passed out and he barely decided not to get with her. Again, I really don't want to drag Leo here but the hypocrisy is something else here and i'm getting tired of Leo feeding the fire with his grift.