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     when you use the Socionics website as evidence for your claims.

    I'm not using a website as evidence for my claims but my life experiences interacting with different personality types, which Socionics accurately models.



    Cause that changes your arguments completely if you were actually talking about different types unintentionally.

    I was using MBTI's dichotomies.

  2. 8 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

    NTPs are sapiosexuals, and would not be interested in ESFJs.  An NTP would find it difficult to even respect an ESFJ.

    xNTPs and xSFJs, although different in temperament, belong to the same quadra and thus can establish fulfilling relationships. But we're not going to agree on that because you believe you know better.



  3. 12 hours ago, Nilsi said:

    they just gave me the vibe of being ESFP.

    ESFJs and ESFPs give off similar vibes since according to Socionics, they're "quasi-identical" http://www.socionics.com/rel/qid.htm

    But internally, they're very different. And even though you might find an ESFP intriguring, I highly doubt you'd get along  -- at least not in the long-term. You'd be better off interacting with types within your quadra (ESFJ, ISFJ, INTP, ENTP).

    12 hours ago, Nilsi said:

    I just read the article and it says ESFP is my best match.

    In Socionics, for all introverted types,  J & P flip. So as an INTP, you'd be considered INTj.

    If you want an accurate take on MBTI compatibility, here ya go:


  4. 12 hours ago, Proserpina said:

    ISFJ and ESFP or INFJ and ENFP usually have a platonic or unrequited love feel.  Best friends at most.  

    These types share no cognitive functions so the potential of their relationship is limited. @Proserpina


    ISTP and INFJ, ISTJ and INFP, ESFP and ENTJ etc.

    Whereas these types, known as relations of activity, share all cognitive functions and thus ideal for relationship.


  5. 21 hours ago, Nilsi said:


    I'm an INTP and I love spending time with ESFPs.


    @Nilsi You or your friend must be mistyped because according to Socionics, that's the worse possible match. They're known as relations of conflict and are bound to clash. If you're an INTP, you'd find your dual, ESFJ, a better match.





  6. 5 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

    The problem with Socionics is it doesn't distinguish between different types of compatibility.


    Yes it does. 

    INTJs and INTPs belong to the same club and share similar interests. But beyond sharing interests, INTJs and INTPs have very little in common. They value opposite functions.


    Clubs are often a common nucleus of spontaneous social interaction (as opposed to "non-spontaneous" as in work, study etc) in modern western societies, and therefore a very common point of formation for social groups, more so than quadras since spontaneous social interaction with new acquaintances tends to be based on common activities and interests if not based on extension of one's close social circle, where quadras are more relevant.

  7. Just now, thisintegrated said:

    INTJs love and admire INTPs.

    I've had two INTP friends in my life and although we had similar temperaments, we were on totally different wavelengths mentally speaking. 

    Quasi-identical relation:

    The quasi-identical relation describes two types that are similar in their strengths, weaknesses and energy levels, but opposite in quadra values. These types can appear superficially similar to each other on the outside, but have motivations and values that strongly contrast with each other, making them near opposites on the inside. Despite not being suited to support each other whatsoever, quasi-identicals have a better chance of getting along with each other in contrast to the other opposing quadra relations