Nivsch

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    31 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

    However I have zero respect for people that make a living of just totally ripping into Israelis and every little thing they do, getting all hyperbolic and having zero consideration for their very legitimate perspective.

    Of course there is a totally unproportional judgment of Israel in comparison to the vast majority of war zone conflicts outhere, blatantly uncompatible to far worse killing ratios in them, to which the explanation - to this special judgment - cannot be found in the logical world but in the spiritual one.

    Anyway, just like you mentioned, me too have no problem at all with fair critisism, as long as the discussion is reasonable and not devloved into demonization, and it is still possible occassionaly here, though not most of the time.

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    21 hours ago, Vrubel said:

    @LSD-Rumi  I am biased because if I don't stand for the pureness of my truth and deep insight that I received through my experience, nobody will. 

    My first loyalty is standing against all the lies and demonization. If you're an intelligent and reasonable person critical of Israel. That can be fair, I have no beef with you. But you see, this issue often goes hand in hand with lies, twisting and stretching, blatant hypocrisy and all kinds of ugliness for which I will not stand.

    +1 ❤

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    Here in the left is Meirav Cohen who is a knesset member from this party.

    She told that in her opinion the number one issue is the hostages and that we must keep this issue on top, because the hostages families are just "dying inside".

    She said that she does not understand how our soldiers came out of Gaza at the negotiation time, because it weaken the pressure on hamas.

    She said she respect the right wing perspective too even if does not agree with, and that "Reality does not found only in one side because reality is complex".

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    13 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

    There is no healthy bias. Actually, just  Using this term, means you are very badly biased.

    For sure there is.

    Bias is Experience too. It goes both ways. A personal experience from your angle.

    Especially an Israeli one when the issue is Israel-Palestine.

    You can call it bias, I would call it an important piece of the puzzle you cannot just overlook and actually you need. 

    I am sure that every one here has his own life experience that design his emotions about many important issues, including this.

    Everyone see the issue from a slightly different angle what is inevitable.

  12. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    Some points from our centrist party "There Is a Future" ("yesh atid" in hebrew) event for Passover holiday, to make you know us better. A party I tend to agree with its values the most.

    The woman in the left function is mainly about the environment, she told us about the importance of helping the enviroment in our municipal (Modi'in city) area and to not let the building process to take over the natural areas here.

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    20 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    you how bad Israel society is

    Or, that is just that your sense of survival doesn't depend on what comes out of the jungle in the southern coast and its residents who allow it.

    20 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    it is not like there is nobody that has that view but it is such a minority it is scary.

    Or maybe that view is very limited if so little Israelis agree with it.

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    33 minutes ago, zazen said:

    They seek deterrence through demonstration rather than devastation.

    The no1 word I heard in Israeli media everywhere until oct 6th.

    That is what Israel wanted all the time to make hamas and Hezbollah feel. Deterrence.

    Israel wanted to sink in a comfortable western life and avoid war at all cost. Too much I would say.

    That is also why Israel has invested 1 Billion dollar on a fence around Gaza and more Billion in an underground anti tunnel obstacle.

    Israel didn't want this war at all, and did everything to run from a war.

    Unfornunately this cenception has been broken on oct 7th.

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    8 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

    What’s interesting is how restrained the Iranian attack was in response to the deadly bombing of their embassy.  It was not meant to kill but to demonstrate capability.   The Israeli air defense spent billions of dollars to shoot down a few million dollars worth of drones.  It also demonstrates that the Iranian leadership has considerable restraint and self control.  They weren’t provoked into over reaction.  This is in contrast to Israel which excessively overreacted killing thousands of innocent citizens and tilting the global south against them resulting is a strategic loss.    It shows the Iranian leadership are not the fanatics they are portrayed in the propaganda of the Western media.

    Yes they are angels. How they sponsor terror so calculately and quietly.

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    17 hours ago, Vrubel said:

    Yes, most Iranians are very chill, educated and level-headed people. Their country got hijacked and held hostage by extremists. Similarly how Gaza got Hijacked by Hamas. However, there are clear differences of course. Arabs often shoot themselves in the foot with brainless riffraff behavior based on pettiness and dogmatic pride. Iranians are more brainy and calculating which also makes their regime more dangerous. They can definitely play their enemies but most of all they play the Arabs. The Palestinians as disposable pawns and the Lebanese Shia/Hezbollah as an extension of their armed forces putting the country of Lebanon at great peril. They also plot and scheme against other Arab countries that have moderate and decent leadership Like Jordan, Egypt and Saudi.

    It's so Ironic that the people who love Palestinians so much are so defensive of the Iranian government.

    Agree completely.

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    4 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

    Then why are Palestinians born there exiled for life? 

    Not only are you a thief but again a coward. Bro you have someone else fight your battles for you. Next time someone offends your girlfriend don't worry I will be there to protect you both. I am your daddy. You would not feel so comfortable on stolen land without the USA

    If you represent them in that style then I don't need to explain how I feel about the other side's disadvantages in their actions and ever victimized irresponsible attitude because you already do this so well.

  19. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Vrubel Its fascinating how it works. The more democratic and more safe a state is, the more for granted people will take it and the more attracted they will be to the "bad" (stage purple-red) guys because they represent their stages they are lacking and the least integrated in their psychy.

    In the same way but exactly to the opposite, the society of Iran will crave democracy and appreciate more Israel's point of view in general.

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    31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Just last week more land was stolen in the West Bank.

    Not only was the land stolen, they keep stealing more of it and they are proud of it.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/08/israel-palestine-west-bank-annexation-netanyahu-smotrich-far-right/

    Problematic I won't dispute that of course, but honestly this pattern actually happens in both sides in the west bank and there is a culture of competition in building without waiting the other side permission. The palestinians have not less such buildings.