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3 minutes ago, tsuki said:@DrewNows @now is forever Shhhh. Stop bickering.
fuck you tsuki
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12 minutes ago, DrewNows said:No I suggested you may have vendetta but you do have a focus on authority in the post.
What you hold important to your heart IS what’s holding you back
Stop trying to figure what enlightened people are to look like!
i suggest you to just stop suggesting anything to me. the authority for enlightenment is not you or leo it’s the pathless path and if you take or took the wrong one it’s your problem but leave me walking mine - what sometimes means to lace up a bag and leave ignorance behind.
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1 minute ago, DrewNows said:@now is forever hehehe look I can only play the dominant if you’d like to be submissive, it really doesn’t matter?
no but in all seriousness, I’m pointing out the fact that you focus on Leo as acting authoritative. Maybe you have a vendetta, but I assure you it’s a vendetta against yourself
People who feel powerless will indeed fall victim to manipulation and involuntary submissiveness but this is only because they are unaware of their own power and ability to create boundaries
yes might be but you are assuming i‘m having a vendetta - in this case there is some truth to it, but it meets really what i hold important to my heart - and there is a clear „no“ to saying enlightenment was possible without understanding that free will means free will in any possible direction to understand when free will is not free and if it is not free it can’t be enlightened, and it’s not free if it doesn’t grasp what authority means in an absolute sense.
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33 minutes ago, DrewNows said:Don’t sweetheart me sister! Or do ?
get over it though will ya. We are all a bloody person of influence. Love him or hate him.
Don’t bring up authority unless you wish to be treated as a subordinate. Nothing wrong with being submissive neither ?
? huh?
never heard about the authority discussion?
what makes you an authority to tell me about that shit? who said if someone plays authority you have to be submissive? unless you agree to it no one makes you one or the other if it’s not yourself who does. sometimes people are submissive because of psychological pressure on them. we can discuss the matter of authority abuse in general in a very broad sense if you want to. it mostly happens when incapacity meets power position.
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24 minutes ago, DrewNows said:Triggered.
I’m sorry you see him as a person of authority and assume others do too
But he is right, why should anyone assume enlightenment will perfect us? I think it’s quite dangerous expectations possibly equating to recklessness
no he’s not right - why assume without perfecting yourself you could get enlightened?
and sweetheart he is a person of influence so he is a person of authority - he even says so himself to support his statements. and in this space he definitely is the one person with the final authority.
if i would see him as an authority would i say something against his authority?
if you are holding a stick in a classroom it already makes you an authority - it doesn’t make you a natural one though.
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sexual liberation and sexual or aggressive power abuse are two completely different things that are not to conflate with each other and especially not to conflate with enlightenment even though sexual liberation can lead to enlightenment, abuse is sticky karma and can not.
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1 minute ago, Shin said:Yes you can
You just don't want to
It's easier for you to stay in your misery, that's all you ever know, you feel safe in it.
Truth is, you're afraid of love, you're afraid to accept and love yourself, afraid to open up to other people.
You have no idea what you're missing on, you think you do but you don't.
If you really did you will stop saying this kind of bullshit answers and run in the other direction ?
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6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:7 hours ago, whoareyou said:I didn't say that it prescribes a specific way of behavior. I am saying, that with enlightenment, your behavior automatically adjusts.
That's a dangerous assumption.
no it’s not, you also just quoted him partially.
in fact it’s the opposite. it is a dangerous assumption that an enlightened person could abuse anyone knowingly after enlightenment. you might have had awakenings, so what? i had a lifetime of awakening, it tells me that it’s not even only that your behavior with enlightenment adjusts - but in this case it’s also obvious that you can’t awaken to this if you didn’t awaken to the realization that enlightenment might not come at all if the behavior didn’t adjust yet, because it’s the behavior first then comes enlightenment. there is a huge difference between illuminating awakenings to oneself or enlightenment to the absolute in a wholistic sense. it’s pure devilry to say it’s impossible or almost impossible it’s pure devilry telling such shit as a person with authority because it’s an excuse and a free ticket for everyone who abuses and exploits for sexual reasons.
really low, low teaching leo.
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it’s so funny this discussion. it’s so funny because i know the answer... it’s so, so funny.
you guys sometimes forget what’s the difference between awakening and enlightenment. as if we had never talked about it before. the moment sex is in the game everyone has their opinion about it.
there are multiple degrees between reality and showbizz.
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2 hours ago, mandyjw said:@now is forever No duality, both true, both false.
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@mandyjw yes but he put in the quote later, so you don’t know which one was the farce... the heroes journey or the quote in the end.
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actually this is what i don’t want to get killed. and that’s what i fight for by wanting to leave - because in this forum it’s gotten really difficult to maintain it with dignity at the moment.
and it’s really what makes @Zweistein so special that she sensed it... that i need her support to leave and she’s here.
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what is it about women solidarity that fascinates me so much. recent christopher street day also reminded me again why i include everyone who wants to be a beautiful woman into it. when i‘m with a bunch of my friends, there are no leaders we all are equal. no one would act up against this rule because it breaks an unspoken law.
On 1.7.2018 at 10:07 AM, now is forever said:just discovered her, a women more beautiful than me. an artist who swallowed her world. a catch 44.
woman pow wow empowerment:
@mandyjw funny how what is truely part of your past/family history is really very much part of my dream shadow. did you ever do ethnological research into the magic and rites of your ancestors? i mean realistically not what’s in fashion at the moment.
the “stay” i interpreted it as the call to stay a women warrior at heart - we all have not only a princess or a mary magdalene inside but also a native warrior. when i posted it i got aware of the beauty of femininity and solidarity, the first time i got aware that i’m a beautiful person because i felt so much love from women solidarity. i felt it before but only got aware of it this intensely then, it was pure bliss. one beautiful person who reminded me of that was zweistein, as a stranger in an internet forum, but also the gay friends i have and all the longterm beautiful women friends i have. all the ladybugs (this time it’s really a metaphor including all ladybugs)
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@Zweistein yes there are many reasons.
i hope they are not the imported ones ? because they look different than the ones from europe (even though i like all ladybugs) the european ladybug is an endangered species.... i definitely need some ladybugs ? to go on growing.
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38 minutes ago, Shin said:What the hell are you talking about ?
Why can't you leave ?
Who's in a position that he shouldn't be in ? What position are you talking about anyway ?
That looks like you're being a huge drama queen and are actually jealous of those supposeadly not worthy people.
That's all I see here sorry.
shin - i wrote leo several emails asking him to delete my content, that i want to leave but want to get a confirmation from his side. you don’t know nothing abou melon wars shin and i absolutely detest it - i don’t have any respect for women who do it. and women who do it are not fit for positions.
leave your banana in your pants shin in this case you should not get involved. and i don’t care how you call me because you are actually right now showing that i‘m right.
there would not be drama if i could just leave.
interesting how he reacts to my „projections“ but not to what he doesn’t want to talk about.
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3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:If you understood what a cult really was you would realize Actuized.org is nowhere close to a cult and will never become one so long as I'm alive. What you guys do after I'm dead is another matter.
well yeah but it is. it doesn’t matter how you call it. and not talking about the problem, not letting people who want to leave leave. is cult like behavior - giving people who are not fit for a position a position is not only cult like behavior it is arbitrariness and nepotism.
sorry leo, projection sometimes really is a mirror game.
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6 minutes ago, Preetom said:The devil in pon pon earrings ?
good idea - something was missing on the outfit... i wonder how he‘d look with them.
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Just now, Leo Gura said:Again, observe your reactivity and projections. You are behaving like a devil.
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3 minutes ago, tedens said:@now is forever matures bro.
thank you ?
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6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Watch your projections.
I engage people in discussion more than any other Youtuber alive. I have answered tens of thousands of peoples critiques, questions, and comments. It is almost a full-time job because the ignorance and devilry from some of you guys has no end.
yes please will you remove all of my content? i want to leave the forum because i can’t stand your ignorance anymore. it really has no end.
watch yourself leo, no one else can obviously.
all of the talking about sending probes. this is one of them.
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2 hours ago, Preetom said:The entire cult problems arise due to misunderstanding whose business is what.
Actualized.org is Leo Gura's business, not ours. When instead of focusing on our own lives, actualized.org becomes a greater priority to us then that acts as the root of all seeming problems here.
This hampers both Leo and us from our respective sides
yes you are right - but saying it is not a cult doesn’t make it not a cult. so even if he says so it still is - he has to deal with the responsibility and how he handles his internal structures - because he’s messing with people. and these people are his customers at the same time. people with moderation rights are not his customers anymore - they are perceived as employees. everything they do falls back on him and his choices. it even falls back on the other moderators.
he can’t just make everyone else responsible. even though everyone has to take responsibility for themselves - he is not an exception.
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@Leo Gura what about with your own small society here? not talking to people and stuff?
how can you always tell your followers not to turn it into a cult then smirk and do it yourself? it’s always as much cult as you make of it. there is no discussion with you about what doesn’t go well.
is this a discussion about mooji, really?
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yes even being is survival, as breathing is survival, drinking is survival, eating is survival, attention and love is survival. and a lot of survival mechanisms are interconnected to the basic survival needs are rooted in them. it’s like with colours you have primary colours and a lot of colours you can mix out of them. in the end everything is rooted in love or it’s absence.
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Just now, mandyjw said:@Zweistein Hi, I'm Mandy. Apparently you are mythical unicorn.
no she’s if anything a dualcorn... hehe.
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you know what i don’t care, anymore. i don’t care what the devil is for you or what shit you are telling yourself.